Interesting Info: Part XX (Jackets-related "tidbits" here)

[Maylo]

Can you tell me precisely which leagues have an agreement?

Liiga and SHL. Swiss and KHL don't.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Would a late-season ATO in Cleveland burn a "professional" season for expansion draft purposes or does it not count because they aren't paid?

It doesn't count. Remember that Zach Werenski's only stint in Cleveland was on a ATO so we could protect him from Vegas.

 

[Viqsi]

Would a late-season ATO in Cleveland burn a "professional" season for expansion draft purposes or does it not count because they aren't paid?

The triggering bit is when the NHL team signs you.

 

[Theo Von]

Scott Harrington is third in the entire league out of all d-men when it comes to 5v5 points/60.

Woah.

 

[MAHJ71]

Scott Harrington is third in the entire league out of all d-men when it comes to 5v5 points/60.

Woah.

Probably an extremely small sample size/ice time though, no?

 

[Theo Von]

Probably an extremely small sample size/ice time though, no?

Out of all defensemen with more than 200+ minutes so not really lol

 

[NotWendell]

Yeah, I get the sense that many here don't want to believe it, but Harrington has been serviceable.

 

[major major]

Out of all defensemen with more than 200+ minutes so not really lol

I wouldn't call it an extremely small sample, but 200 mins is still a small sample for points.

And per our earlier conversation on secondary assists and "noise", all but two of Harrington's points are secondary assists.

So to the surprise of no one, Scott Harrington isn't on track to to be a superstar. He's been a solid bottom pair guy this year, let's give him credit for that.

 

[thebus88]

Scott Harrington is third in the entire league out of all d-men when it comes to 5v5 points/60.

Woah.

Probably an extremely small sample size/ice time though, no?

Cant argue facts, bro.

Out of all defensemen with more than 200+ minutes so not really lol

As I was saying.

 

[MAHJ71]

Wasn't saying Harrington has been bad.. just didn't think he got enough ice time to not have a semi-small sample size --- considering Torts habit of cutting the bench down every other game.

 

[CBJx614]

So in the midst of looking up TOI for other reasons...I came across this...

 

[Theo Von]

Holy smokes.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

So in the midst of looking up TOI for other reasons...I came across this...


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Is it instructive at all that the Jackets have just one player on the list while many other teams have 2 or even 3?

 

[EspenK]

Is it instructive at all that the Jackets have just one player on the list while many other teams have 2 or even 3?

It probably means Torts spreads out ice time evenly because all of our guys are equally good or equally bad .

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

It probably means Torts spreads out ice time evenly because all of our guys are equally good or equally bad .

There does seem to be some thought that unbalanced TOI is an issue. I honestly don't dig into the numbers as hard as some others, so maybe that's just my perception and most people are OK with how the coach doles it out. Anyway I was just wondering if this jives with prevailing wisdom.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Is it instructive at all that the Jackets have just one player on the list while many other teams have 2 or even 3?

Could that be the result of defensive pairings where the teams with two reflect top pairing minutes whereas our top pair hasn't been constant? (I don't know the other teams pairings well enough to make that conclusion.)

As an aside, it was interesting to see McDavid's numbers; they're riding that horse hard.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Could that be the result of defensive pairings where the teams with two reflect top pairing minutes whereas our top pair hasn't been constant? (I don't know the other teams pairings well enough to make that conclusion.)

As an aside, it was ineteresting to see McDavid's numbers; they're riding that horse hard.

Good point - Murr and Z have split time with Jones on the top pair so their average would be pulled down?

So then the answer to my original question would probably be "no".

 

[CBJx614]

Nobody else on the jackets is the number 1 choice to be on the ice in every situation. That's why nobody comes close.

I also remember hearing Shaw say last season that it doesn't matter how long Jones had been on the ice, every time he looks down on the bench Jones is ready to go back out.

Where as someone like Werenski he could tell needed more time to catch his breath

 

[gocbj]

Did anyone else notice that there was no acknowledgement of former President Bush...yet tonight...and I mean no disrespect to Chris Bradley at all. It's just odd that they ignore a President passing away.

 

[Viqsi]

Did anyone else notice that there was no acknowledgement of former President Bush...yet tonight...and I mean no disrespect to Chris Bradley at all. It's just odd that they ignore a President passing away.

I don't recall the Jackets ever paying attention to former presidents. Prominent community members, tho - that's pretty frequent.

 

[Monk]

I don't recall the Jackets ever paying attention to former presidents. Prominent community members, tho - that's pretty frequent.

Yeah even something as benign as this.. No thanks. Leave politics totally out of it.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Yeah even something as benign as this.. No thanks. Leave politics totally out of it.

It’s not politics; it’s history.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[thebus88]

You guys WANT offense.

 

[NotWendell]

Seth is on the ice for both special teams units and is a fixture in 3 on 3 OT. That could be a contributing factor.