Injury Report: Injury Summary

[DarkandStormy]

so what's the record for man games lost?

Don't know, but here is current pace:

 

[Viqsi]

so what's the record for man games lost?

The unofficial record is 629, by the 03-04 LA Kings.
http://frozenroyalty.net/2011/07/06...ing-injury-filled-seasons-2001-02-to-2005-06/

I believe the 536 they had the year prior is currently #2 on the list. So we might be able to manage second place.

 

[DarkandStormy]

The unofficial record is 629, by the 03-04 LA Kings.
http://frozenroyalty.net/2011/07/06...ing-injury-filled-seasons-2001-02-to-2005-06/

I believe the 536 they had the year prior is currently #2 on the list. So we might be able to manage second place.

"In that disastrous season, 558 man-games were lost to injuries caused by contact, with another 48 lost to a player being hit by a puck. In addition, 15 man-games were lost due to muscle pulls and strains, four due to illness, and four more to unclassified injuries."

Ours would be completely skewed because of the abdominal injuries. And broken fingers/hands by pucks.

 

[Forepar]

The unofficial record is 629, by the 03-04 LA Kings.
http://frozenroyalty.net/2011/07/06...ing-injury-filled-seasons-2001-02-to-2005-06/

I believe the 536 they had the year prior is currently #2 on the list. So we might be able to manage second place.

LAK performance mirrored injuries.

Year Pts PO Mangame Lost
99-00 94 Yes Unknown
00-01 92 Yes Unknown
01-02 95 Yes 211
02-03 78 No 536
03-04 81 No 629

Playoff years look to be first round exits, but clearly the severity of injuries in the last 2 of those seasons made horrofic impact on a team that appeared to be on the come. Eerily similar to CBJ this year. Bad news is that it took LAK many more years following the strike year of 04-05 to recover playoff/contender status. Good news is - they did.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

"In that disastrous season, 558 man-games were lost to injuries caused by contact, with another 48 lost to a player being hit by a puck. In addition, 15 man-games were lost due to muscle pulls and strains, four due to illness, and four more to unclassified injuries."

Ours would be completely skewed because of the abdominal injuries. And broken fingers/hands by pucks.

Abdominal injuries can't be caused by contact? Only contact with our training staff!

 

[Viqsi]

LAK performance mirrored injuries.

Year Pts PO Mangame Lost
99-00 94 Yes Unknown
00-01 92 Yes Unknown
01-02 95 Yes 211
02-03 78 No 536
03-04 81 No 629

Playoff years look to be first round exits, but clearly the severity of injuries in the last 2 of those seasons made horrofic impact on a team that appeared to be on the come. Eerily similar to CBJ this year. Bad news is that it took LAK many more years following the strike year of 04-05 to recover playoff/contender status. Good news is - they did.

I'd want to look and see whether or not it's possible that that was due to "building incorrectly" (read: not adjusting to the post-lockout game), but that's just a "please don't let that be our fate please please please" hope.

 

[niflheim]

We took part in building of double crown of Kings. and these injuries, Detroit made playoff last year with Griffins' roster. I don't believe that this epidemy is stoping next season without serious playing style modification

 

[We Want Ten]

The unofficial record is 629, by the 03-04 LA Kings.
http://frozenroyalty.net/2011/07/06...ing-injury-filled-seasons-2001-02-to-2005-06/

I believe the 536 they had the year prior is currently #2 on the list. So we might be able to manage second place.

We can't even win this.

 

[1857 Howitzer]

 

[Fireball23]

Not sure if pointing the fingers at the doctors is correct as they are the after care.

What about the players work out regimen and nutritionists? How many have personal nutritionists? Maybe their nutrition doesn't allow for the muscles to be more elastic?

Maybe these athletes are over trained too where as the muscles have built up so much that anything slightly out of the norm creates a huge issue? Maybe over the summer take a lot more time off between work outs. Let the body reset itself and then build back up shortly before training camp.

just somethings to think about.

 

[Fro]

Luke Adam up on emergency recall...guessing for Wennberg

 

[Mayor Bee]

Not sure if pointing the fingers at the doctors is correct as they are the after care.

What about the players work out regimen and nutritionists? How many have personal nutritionists? Maybe their nutrition doesn't allow for the muscles to be more elastic?

Maybe these athletes are over trained too where as the muscles have built up so much that anything slightly out of the norm creates a huge issue? Maybe over the summer take a lot more time off between work outs. Let the body reset itself and then build back up shortly before training camp.

just somethings to think about.

The very short version is that in the last five years, there's been a huge spike in the number of athletes across all sports suffering abdominal, groin, and hip injuries. All signs seem to point to a common culprit: muscular imbalance within "the core".

Basically, overworking some abdominal muscles through isolated exercises, which allows them to create excessive force against its much weaker antagonist.

 

[blahblah]

Not sure if pointing the fingers at the doctors is correct as they are the after care.

What about the players work out regimen and nutritionists? How many have personal nutritionists? Maybe their nutrition doesn't allow for the muscles to be more elastic?

Maybe these athletes are over trained too where as the muscles have built up so much that anything slightly out of the norm creates a huge issue? Maybe over the summer take a lot more time off between work outs. Let the body reset itself and then build back up shortly before training camp.

just somethings to think about.

I've always considered nutrition to be more of a capacity issue as opposed something that would subject you to more of a injury risk. I suppose you would be more subject to injury the more fatigued you are, but I don't consider it a much greater risk.

Just an observation, but I think Savard is in the greatest need of better nutrition. Just some things I've noticed. I can't say it for sure, but I've really been into nutrition for quite a while and I see some signs of potential problems.

I do a lot of Crossfit and I can say that nutrition changes help me mostly with recovery and the diet for better (at least the more traditional and easier path) recovery isn't the best for your overall health.

As far as the abdominal issues, I highly doubt they are doing enough isolation during the season to create an issue. That would be, IMO, more of an off season issue. I think it's way overblown. Every trainer knows that you have to rest muscle groups; that's not a mistake that professionals are going to make. If players are running into overwork issues, I would bet it's more of a player issue not listening or pushing themselves beyond what they should be.

Pretty much all weight lifting involves engaging the core. You really don't even have to "isolate" the core.

 

[cslebn]

The very short version is that in the last five years, there's been a huge spike in the number of athletes across all sports suffering abdominal, groin, and hip injuries. All signs seem to point to a common culprit: muscular imbalance within "the core".

Basically, overworking some abdominal muscles through isolated exercises, which allows them to create excessive force against its much weaker antagonist.

not sure I buy the isolated core issue, but I'm not a doctor. I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express two weeks ago and that combined with my freestyle kayaking (which is HUGE stress on your core) suggests that not all core isolation causes this.

Now, if they prove that bulk lifting dead lifts causes it... that's something else. But the crossfitters of the old may disagree with that (see Blah's post or my wife who was deadlifting 285 at 9 months pregnant).

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

I've always considered nutrition to be more of a capacity issue as opposed something that would subject you to more of a injury risk. I suppose you would be more subject to injury the more fatigued you are, but I don't consider it a much greater risk.

Just an observation, but I think Savard is in the greatest need of better nutrition. Just some things I've noticed. I can't say it for sure, but I've really been into nutrition for quite a while and I see some signs of potential problems.

I do a lot of Crossfit and I can say that nutrition changes help me mostly with recovery and the diet for better (at least the more traditional and easier path) recovery isn't the best for your overall health.

As far as the abdominal issues, I highly doubt they are doing enough isolation during the season to create an issue. That would be, IMO, more of an off season issue. I think it's way overblown. Every trainer knows that you have to rest muscle groups; that's not a mistake that professionals are going to make. If players are running into overwork issues, I would bet it's more of a player issue not listening or pushing themselves beyond what they should be.

Pretty much all weight lifting involves engaging the core. You really don't even have to "isolate" the core.

What...?

 

[Cyclones Rock]

What...?

I thought that Savard's nutritional issues were obvious as well.

I'm quite surprised that you haven't observed them.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

The very short version is that in the last five years, there's been a huge spike in the number of athletes across all sports suffering abdominal, groin, and hip injuries. All signs seem to point to a common culprit: muscular imbalance within "the core".

Basically, overworking some abdominal muscles through isolated exercises, which allows them to create excessive force against its much weaker antagonist.

I am not sure many on this team would be isolating the core muscles in working out. The very act of skating would involve all the core muscles simultaneously as well as movements like the deadlift and the squat.

Who knows what it really is, exercise science is still evolving. It is worth looking into.

 

[blahblah]

What...?

Not going to list my observations as it will just start arguments.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Not going to list my observations as it will just start arguments.

Please do. I am interested to see these.

 

[BJfan]

Working in a restaurant I have seen what these guys eat before a game and there are few I have seen that are very health conscious. Nash used to eat the same thing before just about every game. He did a piece one year for the dispatch detailing his pre game meals, whole grain pasta, etc. It was total fiction

 

[blahblah]

Working in a restaurant I have seen what these guys eat before a game and there are few I have seen that are very health conscious. Nash used to eat the same thing before just about every game. He did a piece one year for the dispatch detailing his pre game meals, whole grain pasta, etc. It was total fiction

I sure hope so; that stuff is epic garbage. Eliminating pasta and whole grains (along with sugar and processed foods) would go a long way in improving health and reducing obesity. Dietary science is slowly coming to the realization that there are better, and healthier, methods for athletes than carb loading.

 

[BJfan]

I sure hope so; that stuff is epic garbage. Eliminating pasta and whole grains (along with sugar and processed foods) would go a long way in improving health and reducing obesity. Dietary science is slowly coming to the realization that there are better, and healthier, methods for athletes than carb loading.

Most of them add extra protein (usually chicken) to their meals. Nash just had a ritual pre game meal, same soup, same pasta for at least 5 seasons

 

[blahblah]

Most of them add extra protein (usually chicken) to their meals. Nash just had a ritual pre game meal, same soup, same pasta for at least 5 seasons

It's trash. Horrible for your long term health. The addition of protein does help with the insulin response, but it's still trash.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Not going to list my observations as it will just start arguments.

"I have completely unfounded thoughts on someone's nutrition. I'm not telling why, though."

 

[blahblah]

"I have completely unfounded thoughts on someone's nutrition. I'm not telling why, though."

I said in my previous post I couldn't be sure, so don't be a jerk. Having said that, I mentioned one observation in the past - go look for it.. :p