Value of: In the Future - a 2C to the New York Rangers

[Ola]

I heard NYR has the best prospects. Where is their 2nd line center from that prospect group?

The top 3 are Lias Andersson/Filip Chytil/Brett Howden. Then you have Karl Henriksson who has a lot of potential, but that is kind of hard to pin down right now.

Chytil turned 20 just the other week and Lias is from the same draft. They will need a little more time. Chytil is a bit of a freak physically. Speed, strength, soft hands, everything. But I am afraid that NYR has rushed him a bit, he has been in the NHL/AHL the last 2 years. His decision making and experience from playing a lot with the puck is underdeveloped due to playing at such a high level. He must get back on track in the AHL.

Lias has so much hockey in him and so much natural talent, but he has also been playing pro hockey since he 16 y/o. The last year his physics was just behind, had played hockey around the calendar year for too long and not had time to build up his body. This year he has a totally different jump in his skating. Many NYR fans are pinning for him to get a shot with more quality line mates sooner rather than later.

 

[Ola]

L. O. L.

This is just comedy gold:

Stop corsi scouting!!!!!

 

[Digitalbooya]

Eric Staal for your top 20 protected 1st round pick. Surprised the OP didn't list K'Andre Miller as untouchable.

 

[Kupo]

Eric Staal for your top 20 protected 1st round pick. Surprised the OP didn't list K'Andre Miller as untouchable.

Nope.

 

[Henkka]

The top 3 are Lias Andersson/Filip Chytil/Brett Howden. Then you have Karl Henriksson who has a lot of potential, but that is kind of hard to pin down right now.

Chytil turned 20 just the other week and Lias is from the same draft. They will need a little more time. Chytil is a bit of a freak physically. Speed, strength, soft hands, everything. But I am afraid that NYR has rushed him a bit, he has been in the NHL/AHL the last 2 years. His decision making and experience from playing a lot with the puck is underdeveloped due to playing at such a high level. He must get back on track in the AHL.

Lias has so much hockey in him and so much natural talent, but he has also been playing pro hockey since he 16 y/o. The last year his physics was just behind, had played hockey around the calendar year for too long and not had time to build up his body. This year he has a totally different jump in his skating. Many NYR fans are pinning for him to get a shot with more quality line mates sooner rather than later.

Maybe trade some guy for a proven one, if having that many?

 

[Heckler81]

Why????

Rangers are not ready to be cup contenders. They currently want to fight for a playoff spot and let the kids develop.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Eric Staal for your top 20 protected 1st round pick. Surprised the OP didn't list K'Andre Miller as untouchable.

Awful

 

[Digitalbooya]

Awful

A late 1st for a guy who has over 50 points each of the last 3 seasons?

 

[Shootertooter]

A late 1st for a guy who has over 50 points each of the last 3 seasons?

You are expecting way too much fro this Rangers team.
They will be a bottom 12 team most likely.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

A late 1st for a guy who has over 50 points each of the last 3 seasons?

Yep

 

[Digitalbooya]

Yep

So you're looking at 30 point centers for like a 2nd or 3rd? Or what?

 

[Machinehead]

Why????

Rangers are not ready to be cup contenders. They currently want to fight for a playoff spot and let the kids develop.

That's why it says in the future.

 

[Machinehead]

Eric Staal for your top 20 protected 1st round pick. Surprised the OP didn't list K'Andre Miller as untouchable.

I don't think the timing is right for us but this is not a bad offer.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

So you're looking at 30 point centers for like a 2nd or 3rd? Or what?

I’m not looking for anything. But please go on telling me why I should be.

 

[Heckler81]

A late 1st for a guy who has over 50 points each of the last 3 seasons?

Yes because Eric Staal worked out so well for us the first time around.

If the Rangers are going to trade for a second line center. It will be for a mid 20s player that is good.

 

[Waivers]

Eric Staal was here once before, and he will never be back.

 

[Vitto79]

Delete thread they are playing the kids behind Zib

Strome likely trades at the deadline

 

[TGWL]

A late 1st for a guy who has over 50 points each of the last 3 seasons?

Because we should make the same mistake, twice? I mean, Staal isn't getting any younger and doesn't really fit our time-line of when we're competitive and how long we should be competitive. We've had Staal before, for whatever reason it didn't work. Staal is playing at a much higher level than when we had him, but value aside, we're not doing that again.

 

[Shootertooter]

Eric Staal for your top 20 protected 1st round pick. Surprised the OP didn't list K'Andre Miller as untouchable.

Why would the Rangers do this?
34yr old C who would not be part of a future with NY.
A 1st? That is an absolute no. We'll wait until the kids are ready.

 

[TGWL]

A team pushing for Staal is a deep playoff team, or a playoff team that just lost their center. Doesn't make any sense for us right now. We don't appear to be in that position.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Though Staal hasn’t looked like an NHL player thus far this year, I’d do Staal + Johansson for Chytil

 

[Shootertooter]

Though Staal hasn’t looked like an NHL player thus far this year, I’d do Staal + Johansson for Chytil

And NY certainly wouldn't, this does not address the direction the Rangers have obviously been building on.
The Rangers could surprise us and move a younger player, but it is not going to be for a 34yr old C.
Johansson might turn out to be a fine defender but the Rangers have plenty of those in their system right now.......this just doesn't address what they need.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I just don't see who would be available, if a young C who can play 2C right away was on the block it would cost one of our top D prospects + for sure and idk if Rangers fans will have the stomach for trading one of those guys so soon,

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

And NY certainly wouldn't, this does not address the direction the Rangers have obviously been building on.
The Rangers could surprise us and move a younger player, but it is not going to be for a 34yr old C.
Johansson might turn out to be a fine defender but the Rangers have plenty of those in their system right now.......this just doesn't address what they need.

I though the Idea was to give them a 2C for a year or two while their young guys can develop into one. Staal does that

 

[TGWL]

I though the Idea was to give them a 2C for a year or two while their young guys can develop into one. Staal does that

The OP was about a #2c in the future for the NYR. Meaning obtaining a #2c in the future if in a position to actually make a run and our young players at center don't step up for the #2c role. I don't think a short term C makes any sense unless we're an actual playoff threat. So there's a lot of "It doesn't make sense", and right now it doesn't, but change happens when you find yourself in a position to succeed. Until then, we're obviously not interested in moving out any high prospect/pick for any center on the wrong side of 30.