If we get 3rd overall pick, who would you want?

[The Feckless Puck]

If you think Strome is a first line C you take him. If you don't then selecting a Hanifin who solidifies our D for the next decade is very very easy.

I know the Kings don't win two cups without Doughty and Voynov. I know the Hawks don't win a cup without Keith and Seabrook. I know the Penguins won't win a cup because their D can't move the puck up the ice and they have two of the best forwards in the world.

You need good D to enable the forwards to be successful. It's the lesson the Oilers have failed to learn in the past decade and why they perpetually suck.

This is all true.

But then I look at the last sure-bet defenseman we drafted in the first round and what's happening with him and I think, "You know, waiting until later in the 1st round to get a D guy wouldn't be so bad."

 

[zerekstar]

If you think Strome is a first line C you take him. If you don't then selecting a Hanifin who solidifies our D for the next decade is very very easy.

I know the Kings don't win two cups without Doughty and Voynov. I know the Hawks don't win a cup without Keith and Seabrook. I know the Penguins won't win a cup because their D can't move the puck up the ice and they have two of the best forwards in the world.

You need good D to enable the forwards to be successful. It's the lesson the Oilers have failed to learn in the past decade and why they perpetually suck.

Drafting D with our highest pick seems boring but you are right. And the Oilers just got their next Gretzky to add to a pretty good offense and I don't see how we will out-gun them. We need a D that is as good as their offence and the best goal tending we can find.

I do wish Hanifin shot R but no go there. What does Provorov shoot and what is his game like? Does he hit, block, dangle, clear the crease, shoot with accuracy?

Also, what is it that ranks Hanafin so high? Is he really so good that we would be foolish to pass him up? I ask because I do not know.

 

[BlazingBlueAnt]

Drafting D with our highest pick seems boring but you are right. And the Oilers just got their next Gretzky to add to a pretty good offense and I don't see how we will out-gun them. We need a D that is as good as their offence and the best goal tending we can find.

I do wish Hanifin shot R but no go there. What does Provorov shoot and what is his game like? Does he hit, block, dangle, clear the crease, shoot with accuracy?

Also, what is it that ranks Hanafin so high? Is he really so good that we would be foolish to pass him up? I ask because I do not know.

Hanifin is ranked so high because of his truly elite skating and he also has incredibly high hockey IQ. He has the size, smarts, and skating to be a #1D in the NHL. People worry about his offensive upside and his shot is seen as being non-elite. He is going to be really really good, but if the team feels that one of Gormley, Moore, or Dhalbeck can be a second pairing LHD, I think we have to take Strome

 

[zerekstar]

Hanifin is ranked so high because of his truly elite skating and he also has incredibly high hockey IQ. He has the size, smarts, and skating to be a #1D in the NHL. People worry about his offensive upside and his shot is seen as being non-elite. He is going to be really really good, but if the team feels that one of Gormley, Moore, or Dhalbeck can be a second pairing LHD, I think we have to take Strome

I personally do not think any of what we have will do as well as what Hanifin. I have heard some scouts say he is the best defensive prospect that has been available in years. If that's true, and I compare that to Eckblad, I think WOW! We must do this.
But I don't know if everyone sees him that high and if he is, is that too much investment in a second pairing? Then I say again, how could we not do this? It might be the only pick we can make that would tilt the balance back to even when we play Edmonton if that makes any sense.

 

[Mosby]

What does Provorov shoot

Hanifin, Provorov, and Werenski are all lefties.

 

[zerekstar]

Hanifin, Provorov, and Werenski are all lefties.

I never paid a lot of attention to this over the years when it came to defense but has there always been such a shortage of righties?

 

[hbk]

Drafting D with our highest pick seems boring but you are right. And the Oilers just got their next Gretzky to add to a pretty good offense and I don't see how we will out-gun them. We need a D that is as good as their offence and the best goal tending we can find.

I do wish Hanifin shot R but no go there. What does Provorov shoot and what is his game like? Does he hit, block, dangle, clear the crease, shoot with accuracy?

Also, what is it that ranks Hanafin so high? Is he really so good that we would be foolish to pass him up? I ask because I do not know.

Provorov plays like OEL. A tad undersized but he plays with some grit. He has some offense (near PPG in junior) but he's mistake free in his own zone and can effectively move puck up the ice. Uses long stick to poke check.

 

[zerekstar]

Provorov plays like OEL. A tad undersized but he plays with some grit. He has some offense (near PPG in junior) but he's mistake free in his own zone and can effectively move puck up the ice. Uses long stick to poke check.

What is he projected to go at?

 

[BlazingBlueAnt]

What is he projected to go at?

I have him and Werenski at like 7-10ish

 

[zerekstar]

I guess that suggests how deep this draft is if you can get an OEL proto type at 7-10. Thanks

 

[Shepard]

I'd be completely on board for taking Strome then using our first from Chicago to get the best D available, perhaps even trading up if possible and necessary.

 

[kingbrutis]

Hope a team falls in love with someone at 3 and trade back a spot or 2. GMDM plays poker and wins. We still get better and get a contract dump or another pick.

 

[hbk]

what is he projected to go at?

5-10

Currently sitting 6th on my list.

 

[zerekstar]

5-10 Currently sitting 6th on my list.

Funny that's the same as OEL was. Sounds like he would be worth looing at. Maloney has some big decisions to make.

 

[McCluffin]

As much as Strome and Marner are great offensive players, lets just take a look at the coyotes prospects. They have Domi, Duclair, Perlini and Dvorak all in the waiting. And when it comes to D prospects, they dont really have anyone. Sure they have Gormley and murphy playing, but besides that the cupboard is pretty empty. So, that is why I think they should really consider taking Hanifin. The yotes strength for so long was D, and they need to think about replenishing that stock.

 

[IPreferPi]

And when it comes to D prospects, they dont really have anyone. Sure they have Gormley and murphy playing, but besides that the cupboard is pretty empty. So, that is why I think they should really consider taking Hanifin. The yotes strength for so long was D, and they need to think about replenishing that stock.

There is Top 4 defensive talent outside the first round, you know. RHDs with size too. Jeremy Roy, Brandon Carlo, and heck maybe Oliver Kylington may be around at Chicago's pick as well.

 

[Jormungandr]

As much as Strome and Marner are great offensive players, lets just take a look at the coyotes prospects. They have Domi, Duclair, Perlini and Dvorak all in the waiting. And when it comes to D prospects, they dont really have anyone. Sure they have Gormley and murphy playing, but besides that the cupboard is pretty empty. So, that is why I think they should really consider taking Hanifin. The yotes strength for so long was D, and they need to think about replenishing that stock.

Why doesn't the roster matter? When talking about young players, you can look at the roster and literally list every defenseman on it. (Well, not Campbell) Young forwards? Rieder, Boedker and.....? Young centers? None.

 

[XX]

Hanifin, Provorov, and Werenski are all lefties.

Werenski plays the right and Maloney inserting him into that group of 6 he mentioned makes me think Werenski is the target if they trade down.

But teams are built down the center. You'd be dumb to not take the center. Wouldn't even matter if Hanifin ends up being the better player. At some point you just need a gd center.

 

[Mosby]

This picture just needs to be posted:

 

[Shepard]

There is Top 4 defensive talent outside the first round, you know. RHDs with size too. Jeremy Roy, Brandon Carlo, and heck maybe Oliver Kylington may be around at Chicago's pick as well.

Plus it's easier to get top 4 defensemen after the first round than it is to get top six forwards.

 

[rt]

This picture just needs to be posted:

Add six pounds of fat to his face and you've got Kenny Powers.

Excuse me. I meant Kenny ****ing Powers!

 

[Mosby]

I see a young Jack Capuano.

 

[Jakey53]

Werenski plays the right and Maloney inserting him into that group of 6 he mentioned makes me think Werenski is the target if they trade down.

But teams are built down the center. You'd be dumb to not take the center. Wouldn't even matter if Hanifin ends up being the better player. At some point you just need a gd center.

I say you build from the net out.

 

[Jakey53]

Why doesn't the roster matter? When talking about young players, you can look at the roster and literally list every defenseman on it. (Well, not Campbell) Young forwards? Rieder, Boedker and.....? Young centers? None.

Good centers are very hard to get, no doubt, but even DM said our D chemistry was not very good, and he is looking for a couple of D. Who knows what will happen, we have so many holes to fill.

 

[mouser]

Anyone who's watched a decent amount of Marner want to opine on his potential of playing center vs. wing? So far as I can tell the assumption he'll play wing in the NHL seems to be almost entirely based on size rather then aptitude at the center spot. His measurables aren't that far off many other successful NHL centers, especially if he has some growing room to fill out his frame still.