If Berube is fired, who would you like to see behind the Flyers bench?

[LegionOfDoom91]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-who-will-coach-maple-leafs-next/#__federated=1

26. Another coach on the Flyers: “In addition to everything else, Craig Berube is trying to change the style they’ve been used to playing.†Ron Hextall confirmed that is true. “We’re not trying to be safe, but we are trying to be responsible. Keep the third man high on offence…don’t always try long bombs out of our zone.â€

 

[Garbage Goal]

I can't understand how people still think Carlyle is an okay coach.

 

[Philadelphia Ducks]

The only thing I like about Torts is how he holds players accountable, although sometimes he goes off on them. I wouldn't mind Berube back as an assistant, if thats possible, the players seem to like him.

Has this ever happened before? Firing him as HC to rehire him as assistant

 

[Newest sens fan]

Has this ever happened before? Firing him as HC to rehire him as assistant

My thoughts exactly, he seems to be respected but it would be akward.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I really couldn't see either party being open to do that. It's just not worth the awkwardness & potential tension.

 

[HighOFFHockey]

My thoughts exactly, he seems to be respected but it would be akward.

Yeah, can't see it happening. At most I could see him getting a job as AHL coach. Most likely hell be looking to be a head coach somewhere else.

I really do believe Berube is part of the problem as well. His creativity and line combos are bottom of the league. He's a great condition coach with a hard nose attitude, but he's definitely not a head coach in the NHL at the moment.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Yeah, can't see it happening. At most I could see him getting a job as AHL coach. Most likely hell be looking to be a head coach somewhere else.

I really do believe Berube is part of the problem as well. His creativity and line combos are bottom of the league. He's a great condition coach with a hard nose attitude, but he's definitely not a head coach in the NHL at the moment.

once hes fired here, he will NEVER get another NHL headcoaching job...

he's proven he wasnt ready and is still not...

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Has this ever happened before? Firing him as HC to rehire him as assistant

Wayne Cashman, right?

 

[Larry44]

Bob Mackenzie was talking about the Leafs today, but it applies to the Flyers too. Even if you are convinced your coach has to go now, there is no rush to hire a permanent replacement. Why settle for in-season table scraps when you can wait for the buffet in the offseason?

If the Flyers felt it necessary to fire Berube now, just appoint an interim coach, maybe even Lappy, then do a proper search later. They might as well just leave him there now, there's nothing to lose.

 

[daynus]

Yah I love the way bob Mackenzie thinks. And he is right like usual. It's amazing how many hockey clowns, legends in their own minds we have to put up with in Canada. I tend to turn off the volume and just watch. Throw on some octane,alt nation on siriusxm. Bob and Craig button are the few I have the patience to listen to.
I would like to add Dave Tippett to the Buffett for off season coaches. Don't know how much longer he will hang on in Arizona. He's seasoned. He does appear stoic, like berube. But he would have his system down, lines figured out, day 1 of regular season. And he has a talented d in zona. Think he would work well with our young prospects on d.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I think it is very, very possible that Hextall is waiting to see what happens with Tippett before firing Berube.

And I would be okay with that path, because Tippett is a heck of a coach.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It's tough to say what Hextall will & won't do at this point in regards to staff hires since Gord Murphy was the only real one he made so far.

 

[JayRosehillMVP]

Plenty of guys capable if being interim HC for the rest of the season, but theres really no rush anymore. We're too far gone at this point.

Only current NHL coaches I like are Babcock and Tippett. Babcocks not happening, but Tippett seems very possible. What he's accomplished over the years in Arizona is awesome. Has Flyers ties as well. Do we even know if he'll definitively be fired though?

 

[Appleyard]

Tippett or MacLean seem the most viable and feasible options...

If people want Babcock MacLean is a pretty similar coach stylistically and tactically.

Though I do worry that his system would be very ill suited to our D... but then again pretty much every system is ill suited to them!

But if he stayed around long enough for our young D to start coming through they seem exactly what he would want.

 

[StandingCow]

Agreed with others on Tippett or Maclean... can't think of any other coaches I would rather have or would be an upgrade. Mid as well finish off the season with what we have.

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

Wayne Cashman, right?

That's what I was thinking.

 

[YEM]

once hes fired here, he will NEVER get another NHL headcoaching job...

he's proven he wasnt ready and is still not...

I'm no apologist [though I do think he'll last the remainder of the season] but I think he did a pretty good job last year. He's been tasked with making chicken salad out of chicken **** this year, even Scotty Bowman isn't taking this squad anywhere...

 

[Prongo]

Whatever we do, I want a coach who is aggressive with the defense in the neutral zone and entering at the blue line. If you watch teams like Pittsburgh and other teams who control the play, they have their defense aggressively pursue the puck carrier coming through the zone. Our team literally just allows them to enter the zone pretty much. Coburn and Schenn are probably the only two who have any means of stopping players approaching the zone. Schenn is usually only effective when the player is coming down the boards.

Clearly one problem is we are not mobile enough back end for our team to play that type of aggressive style. It needs to be improved. Morin will definitely help and I bet that's why the Flyers were wanting to keep him up. Gap control is huge and our team is terrible at it. Throwing away Grossmann and Schenn will improve our blue line a lot.

 

[dats81]

Whatever we do, I want a coach who is aggressive with the defense in the neutral zone and entering at the blue line. If you watch teams like Pittsburgh and other teams who control the play, they have their defense aggressively pursue the puck carrier coming through the zone. Our team literally just allows them to enter the zone pretty much. Coburn and Schenn are probably the only two who have any means of stopping players approaching the zone. Schenn is usually only effective when the player is coming down the boards.

Clearly one problem is we are not mobile enough back end for our team to play that type of aggressive style. It needs to be improved. Morin will definitely help and I bet that's why the Flyers were wanting to keep him up. Gap control is huge and our team is terrible at it. Throwing away Grossmann and Schenn will improve our blue line a lot.

It WOULD help our blueline but it WILL not happen as long as Berube has a say in that regard. He loves his big blue liners.

Grossmann has looked improved the last couple of weeks though. He makes much better decisions than L.Schenn or even Coburn and has an underrated wrist-shot.
I'm fine with keeping one of the big slobs to play him on the 3rd pairing and to take over PK duties like blocking shots but two of them, especially at that cap hit, is just a waste.

 

[Prongo]

It WOULD help our blueline but it WILL not happen as long as Berube has a say in that regard. He loves his big blue liners.

Grossmann has looked improved the last couple of weeks though. He makes much better decisions than L.Schenn or even Coburn and has an underrated wrist-shot.
I'm fine with keeping one of the big slobs to play him on the 3rd pairing and to take over PK duties like blocking shots but two of them, especially at that cap hit, is just a waste.

The GM has final say on the matter. Berube most likely won't be here next year anyway so I don't think it matters. Hextall sitting in the press box has to see what everyone else does. Gap control is terrible and zone entry is just to simple for teams playing against us. It's the problem that Toronto has as well. Their defense just isn't good at controlling the line.

 

[Newest sens fan]

Thoughts on Yeo now that all this drama has happened? He coaches a possession game and likes speedy forwards (which we are kind of drafting now with Hexy). We have decent possession players already in G, Jake, and Simmonds (on the boards at least). Just a few ideas, but I hope he wouldn't turn the team into a bore-fest like the Wild are.

 

[SchennSational1022*]

Dreger said yesterday we will make a big run at Babcock, right after he said him going to Toronto is a pipe dream.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Babcock is likely going to sign an extension in Detroit.
why would he come to Philly.

 

[Prongo]

Babcock is likely going to sign an extension in Detroit.
why would he come to Philly.

$$$$$$$$

Thats simple the reason. He is reportedly looking for 4 million per year. Detroit is offering 3. That's the stick up. Flyers get a high draft pick this year and maybe get a guy like Boychuk on our back end they immediately become a more attractive team. Hextall would have to sell where the team is likely going and not where it is right now.

 

[Curufinwe]

I bet Snider would give him $5 million if Hextall recommended it.