Chuck Shick said:
You may want to check your math
Nope. My math is fine, thank you.
Yours, on the other hand, is a little off.
From the NHL's very own site:
NHL Teams paid 796 Players during the '03-'04 Season. (Source:
NHL.com)
Total Player SALARIES: 1,318,500,000 (Source:
HockeyZonePlus)
$1,318,500.000 / 796 Players = $1,656,407.04
That's not $1.8M, it's $1.66M. A pittance of a difference, I know, and hardly worth mentioning, but stick with me on this one.....
Now, taking into account that of the 796 Players listed, 540 of them make LESS than $1.5M, while another 58 make between $1.5M and $1.99M, that leaves a WHOPPING 198 NHL Players who made more than $2M last season. (Again, from the NHL's own site). The "$1.8M Average Salary" is DISINGENUOUS, at best.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out the OBVIOUS, now DOES it?
When SIXTY EIGHT PERCENT of the work force is making LESS than what you CLAIM is the "Average Salary", then how can it TRULY be the "Average".
Again.....the claim is disingenuous.
I've discussed this at length on another Message Board. I'll use the same analogy here:
Say you take a look at a small business. They have 5 Employees. Their annual Payroll is $500,000.
That sounds GREAT, right? The "Average Salary" of the 5 Employees of that Company is $100,000 per year. Looks like those five guys are doing okay, doesn't it?
Until you take a closer look.
Then you see that the "Director of Marketing" is pulling down an Annual Salary of $400,000.
The four telemarketers who work for him are making $25,000 each.
How REAL is that "$100,000 Average Salary" to the four guys who are taking home $25K? What benefit is that "$100,000 Average Salary" to them?
Kinda changes the perspective, doesn't it?
The Yashin's, Jagr's, Pronger's, Lidstrom's, Joseph's, et al, are driving this alleged "Average Salary" UP.
The TRUTH is that the "median" salary in the NHL is roughly $800 - $900K.
That's a FAR cry from Bettman's "$1.8M Average Salary". Roughly HALF.
Yep. MY math is JUST fine.
Chuck Shick said:
and also Steve Webb is not in the NHL anymore, he actually sat in the press box last year for the Pens until they cut him and then the Isles picked him up for a six pack of Blatz beer and a case of tape then they told him to hit the road cause all that hammerhead could do is run and headhunt players...he was like a plumber who shows up on the job without his toolkit. He'd be lucky to crack the lineup on my beer league team.
How many of the guys in your "beer league" have ever had the honor of donning an NHL Jersey, and had 16,000+ fans chanting THEIR names every time they skated out on the ice?
(I'll wait here while you compile that undoubtedly extensive list.)
Bash Webb all you like, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that he's accomplished a lot more with the VERY limited Hockey skill-set he's been given than you, or any of your "beer league" buddies have. No?
And as for Webb not being in the NHL anymore.....he finished the Season on an NHL Roster, and played two games in the Play Offs. Considering his limited ability, he's not expected to see MUCH ice time.
And guess what....
Pavol Demitra isn't "in" the NHL anymore, either. Neither is Paul Kariya.
Wonder if THOSE guys could "crack the line-up" on your "beer league team".
Chuck Shick said:
I guess based on your genius, when the NHL does return their only going to have 2 lines ? no more 3rd and 4th liners ..??? hmmmm news to all of us, thanks for the heads up :lol
I REFUSE to believe that ANYONE is THAT dunder-headed. Please tell me you're not serious.
Where did Kariya and Selanne play in Colorado last year?
Second Line.
Where did Kariya play in Anaheim? FIRST Line. Why? Because there wasn't anyone BETTER than him to play on the Ducks First Line.
The Avs have more talented Players than Anaheim. Paul was king in Anahiem, but has to take a back seat to Sakic and Forsberg in Denver.
Where did Brett Hull play in Detroit?
THIRD LINE, wasn't it?
Luc Robitaille? FOURTH LINE.
And why was THAT? Because Detroit was STACKED with Offense.
Where would those two play on a team like the Pens? The Predators? The Coyotes?
You get rid of the 22.....or 44......or 66.....or 88 WORST Fourth Liners in the NHL by contracting Teams, and who takes their spots on the SURVIVING Teams?
Why......
Guys who USED TO BE on the THIRD LINES, of course!!!
There are fewer jobs. And ALL of this "talent" floating around looking for a "spot".
Former First Liners, (the GOOD ones), from the contracted Teams become Second Liners on the SURVIVING Teams. Pushing former Second Liners on the surviving Teams down to the Third Line. Which pushes former Third Liners on the surviving Teams down to the Fourth Line.
I'm not talking about only having "2 lines", or "no more 3rd and 4th liners".
I'm talking about MORE TALENT, BETTER PLAYERS, on the "3rd and 4th lines".
Get it?
And by the way.....you're welcome. Always glad to give someone a "heads up" when I can.