How does the D Corps get fixed?

[Viqsi]

Counting on a 19 year old (Werenski next year), and two unproven 20 something year olds to save our defense. 'The good' old days have returned.

Jones and Murray are both good enough that they represent a serious boost to our defense. The only question is whether or not either or both take that next step to be #1Ds, 'cause that's a position we need filled one way or the other. We have three shots at it (those two and Werenski), so there's a decent chance.

...I just wish we didn't have to lean on "decent chance" after trading Joey.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Jones and Murray are both good enough that they represent a serious boost to our defense. The only question is whether or not either or both take that next step to be #1Ds, 'cause that's a position we need filled one way or the other. We have three shots at it (those two and Werenski), so there's a decent chance.

...I just wish we didn't have to lean on "decent chance" after trading Joey.

This is the clip I tie to this trade, Johansen being the boat and Jones being the box. Jarmo/JD is Peter. Sure, the box could be awesome. But it could also be just 'good' or fine. Meanwhile the boat is a mostly known commodity that you know can only get better, and at minimum is a 60 point center.

 

[We Want Ten]

This is the clip I tie to this trade, Johansen being the boat and Jones being the box. Jarmo/JD is Peter. Sure, the box could be awesome. But it could also be just 'good' or fine. Meanwhile the boat is a mostly known commodity that you know can only get better, and at minimum is a 60 point center.

Really? Joey is a known commodity? I have to disagree with this.

 

[Viqsi]

Really? Joey is a known commodity? I have to disagree with this.

He's well known. It's just that in this case some people have seen water on this metaphorical boat and are convinced it's sinking while others (including myself) are pointing out that it also happens to be raining.

 

[We Want Ten]

He's well known. It's just that in this case some people have seen water on this metaphorical boat and are convinced it's sinking while others (including myself) are pointing out that it also happens to be raining.

It seems to rain a lot on the SS Joey.

No way the boat is sinking though, maybe his bilge pump has a short in the wiring or something? He will be back, probably better than ever.

Metaphors are fun.

 

[major major]

This is the clip I tie to this trade, Johansen being the boat and Jones being the box. Jarmo/JD is Peter. Sure, the box could be awesome. But it could also be just 'good' or fine. Meanwhile the boat is a mostly known commodity that you know can only get better, and at minimum is a 60 point center.

Ok, if it's a crappy boat with a hole in it that can't handle rough seas and wants to be paid like an ocean liner.

If Jarmo/JD thought Joey could only get better, they probably wouldn't have done this deal. And I agree with them, it can get worse with Joey.

 

[blahblah]

He's well known. It's just that in this case some people have seen water on this metaphorical boat and are convinced it's sinking while others (including myself) are pointing out that it also happens to be raining.

Actually there is more than one "known" history with Johansen. There's at least 5 or 6 and most disagree on the details. I'm not sure your is any more or less accurate. Personally I think there's some truth in virtually every version I've heard.

 

[Zarathustra]

Ok, if it's a crappy boat with a hole in it that can't handle rough seas and wants to be paid like an ocean liner.

If Jarmo/JD thought Joey could only get better, they probably wouldn't have done this deal. And I agree with them, it can get worse with Joey.

Well you know what they say about boats...

the best part of owning a boat is the day you buy it and the day you sell it.


Since we're going the metaphorical boat route.

 

[We Want Ten]

Well you know what they say about boats...

the best part of owning a boat is the day you buy it and the day you sell it.


Since we're going the metaphorical boat route.

Lol ouch haha.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

We're going to need a bigger boat

 

[We Want Ten]

We're going to need a bigger boat

Sadly, some posters are now actively rooting for the shark.

 

[cbjfaninmo]

Well you know what they say about boats...

the best part of owning a boat is the day you buy it and the day you sell it.


Since we're going the metaphorical boat route.

Some say boat is short for...Bust Out Another Thousand...

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Sadly, some posters are now actively rooting for the shark.

Someone suggested we trade for Logan Couture.


EDIT:
Also should be noted that no one has equated the "boat" thing and "floating." Man, we're off our game.

 

[EspenK]

Shattenkirk for Hartnell?

http://www.tsn.ca/mondaymustread-will-the-blues-move-shattenkirk-for-scoring-help-1.421109

Even cap hits. Hartnell has 2 years left; Shattenkirk one.

Would help balance the Jackets F-D cap imbalance.

Jackets D would be like Whoa!

JJ and Tyutin would be expendable

toss in the possibility of working a trade for Drouin around Savard and this makes all the sense in the world to me.

 

[Fro]

Someone suggested we trade for Logan Couture.


EDIT:
Also should be noted that no one has equated the "boat" thing and "floating." Man, we're off our game.

sorry i was single for the weekend and not home much lol...i apologize for failing to help on that metaphor battle...

 

[Nanabijou]

Shattenkirk for Hartnell?

http://www.tsn.ca/mondaymustread-will-the-blues-move-shattenkirk-for-scoring-help-1.421109

Even cap hits. Hartnell has 2 years left; Shattenkirk one.

Would help balance the Jackets F-D cap imbalance.

Jackets D would be like Whoa!

JJ and Tyutin would be expendable

toss in the possibility of working a trade for Drouin around Savard and this makes all the sense in the world to me.

Sure, but there is no way st Louis is doing that.

 

[Viqsi]

Shattenkirk for Hartnell?

http://www.tsn.ca/mondaymustread-will-the-blues-move-shattenkirk-for-scoring-help-1.421109

Even cap hits. Hartnell has 2 years left; Shattenkirk one.

Would help balance the Jackets F-D cap imbalance.

Jackets D would be like Whoa!

JJ and Tyutin would be expendable

toss in the possibility of working a trade for Drouin around Savard and this makes all the sense in the world to me.

Hartnell has three years left, not two. And I suspect we'd have to add significantly. I sure as heck wouldn't propose it here; Blues fans would murder us all (he was in Johansen trade talks, for G-d's sake). If he's being disrespected that badly by the Blues org, tho... I dunno. It'd be damned nice, that's for sure.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Keeping Shattenkirk, Jenner, Murray, and Karlsson would be an unrealistic dream last this season

 

[Viqsi]

Keeping Shattenkirk, Jenner, Murray, and Karlsson would be an unrealistic dream last this season

In a scenario in which Hartnell is moved for him? Past this season is very doable. The season afterwards is a much bigger challenge, but not totally impossible.

 

[CBJSlash]

Shattenkirk for Hartnell?

http://www.tsn.ca/mondaymustread-will-the-blues-move-shattenkirk-for-scoring-help-1.421109

Even cap hits. Hartnell has 2 years left; Shattenkirk one.

Would help balance the Jackets F-D cap imbalance.

Jackets D would be like Whoa!

JJ and Tyutin would be expendable

toss in the possibility of working a trade for Drouin around Savard and this makes all the sense in the world to me.

Shattenkirk's value far, far exceeds Hartnell.

I'd assume St. Louis would like a center so we could trade Anisimov, Letestu or Johansen.

Hartnell + Savard + Karlsson is probably the best we could reasonably offer, but I don't think they be too intrigued by that.

 

[Tulipunaruusu*]

I'd assume St. Louis would like a center so we could trade Anisimov, Letestu or Johansen.

Shouldn't Edmonton build a deal around Letestu to get Drouin? Or would it be just one of those traditional hockey trades?

 

[EspenK]

Hartnell has three years left, not two. And I suspect we'd have to add significantly. I sure as heck wouldn't propose it here; Blues fans would murder us all (he was in Johansen trade talks, for G-d's sake). If he's being disrespected that badly by the Blues org, tho... I dunno. It'd be damned nice, that's for sure.

Crap on the 3 years left - I thought it was only 2. If they are serious about trading Shattenkirk I would hope we would at least be talking regardless.

Hartnell plus for Shattenkirk plus. In the real world if they think they can't/won' resign Shattenkirk they may be willing to take less and no one is going to give up the farm for a guy one year away from UFA. I'd throw in some prospects/picks if necessary

 

[Nanabijou]

Crap on the 3 years left - I thought it was only 2. If they are serious about trading Shattenkirk I would hope we would at least be talking regardless.

Hartnell plus for Shattenkirk plus. In the real world if they think they can't/won' resign Shattenkirk they may be willing to take less and no one is going to give up the farm for a guy one year away from UFA. I'd throw in some prospects/picks if necessary

I imagine they kicked the tires on a deal involving Joey. I'm glad they went with Jones even though Shattenkirk is the better player right now. I don't want the uncertainty of trying to sign Shattenkirk over the next year.

Even though he has only 1 year left, he's going to be worth a lot to someone. I don't see a fit for what the CBJ could offer. Hartnell isn't going to cut it. If they were looking at a scoring winger to provide immediate help, they'd be asking about Saad.

 

[blahblah]

Crap on the 3 years left - I thought it was only 2. If they are serious about trading Shattenkirk I would hope we would at least be talking regardless.

Hartnell plus for Shattenkirk plus. In the real world if they think they can't/won' resign Shattenkirk they may be willing to take less and no one is going to give up the farm for a guy one year away from UFA. I'd throw in some prospects/picks if necessary

To get Shattenkirk; the player has to be young and I think they are looking for top six center help. Maybe you could start the conversation with Jenner. No idea if they would be interested and it doesn't help with our cap situation.

If you want to move Hartnell maybe you set your sights a little lower or maybe including Jenner starts the conversation.

For the record I'm not recommending any of this; than again I'm not saying don't do it either. You pull in Shatterkirk and you are looking at dumping JJ, Tyutin, and Savard. Shatterkirk, Jones, and Murray are going to take up more than enough cap space.

To be honest, I'm thinking that Foligno might get some interest from them.

 

[DJA]

I imagine they kicked the tires on a deal involving Joey. I'm glad they went with Jones even though Shattenkirk is the better player right now. I don't want the uncertainty of trying to sign Shattenkirk over the next year.

Even though he has only 1 year left, he's going to be worth a lot to someone. I don't see a fit for what the CBJ could offer. Hartnell isn't going to cut it. If they were looking at a scoring winger to provide immediate help, they'd be asking about Saad.

Friedman says that the Blues offered Shattenkirk for Johansen:

Elliotte Friedman: Rumored that the Blues offered Shattenkirk to the Columbus Blue Jackets for Ryan Johansen. Friedman thinks teams will be calling the Blues about Shattenkirk, asking if he’s available, and what it will take to get him.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/headlines-what-do-the-lightning-want-for-drouin/