Proposal: How do we rebuild?

[The don godfather]

What rebuild debrusk 30 goals next year seny is gonna make the team. Carlo and mcavoy for the next decade. Pasta only 22 and one of the best winger in the league. Vak Clifton studs back there. Grez only 23 and can skate like the wind . We have studnicka knocking on the door as well. What rebuild?

 

[smithformeragent]

I’ve just seen it too many times with the Bruins and others where these mid range UFAs get $5-6m a year and five you twenty goals in year one, but by year three you’re twisting yourself into knots trying to get out from under the deal.

Time to show some restraint, even if it means taking the heat for “doing nothing” in the off season.

 

[Fenian24]

^^^^*10. Those "$5 DVD bin bargain, crap against the wall" types, figuratively speaking, could already possibly reside in Providence(Seny, Bjork, Stud etc). Time to give it a chance internally or why else draft some of these kids to begin with? Make a move if it doesn't work. Besides, there's always the chance that one of those "top-mid tier free agents" don't work according to plan & we're stuck yet again, with $$$ crunch(i.e Backes).

Want to ruin a prospect like Studnicka? Bring him in before he is ready to compete in the NHL and ruin his confidence and set him back. Bjork and Senyshyn seem to be this years Koko and Spooner, let's remember how great that worked out. Neither has shown any indication of being an NHL player. Senyshyn "the goal scorer" had 14 in the AHL last year, not exactly setting the world on fire.

I'm all for bring in kids to use in the bottom six if you have some that are capable of doing it, the Bruins do not appear to. Too many years of Shayne Stevenson as the "next Neely" or Zach Hamill as the next Bergeron. Stop the insanity, go get a real live top 6 winger, most likely this is going to have to be by trade. There are no internal solutions at forward. Frederic may be able to help fill some of the grit and toughness void but I would prefer that he be a compliment to an older player already established in that role.

 

[DKH]

Kevin Hayes just established the market for Coyle

However hometown discount to me is 15%

That is the difference between 6 and 7 M


With a hard cap not everyone gets paid

Very interesting team watching

Will end up like MLB

Craig Kimball & Dallas Keuchel were two who got significantly less

Xander Bogearts went for security and signed a deal here that stunned everyone

I’m Krug I ask for 6/39 and a NMC

I’d rather do a Bogearts then deal with the great unknown

 

[Marcobruin]

I thought when they drafted senyshyn that DS knew something other gms didn't....Wrong

I can't see why anything would be expected from Zach ....I'm no longer a believer of his

Like krejci always did but if we can get a good prospect. And unload his salary id do it

Imo we need a young star center and a high end rwinger.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I thought when they drafted senyshyn that DS knew something other gms didn't....Wrong

I can't see why anything would be expected from Zach ....I'm no longer a believer of his

Like krejci always did but if we can get a good prospect. And unload his salary id do it

Imo we need a young star center and a high end rwinger.

Yeah, that's just what Boston needs to do. Trade their #2 center for a good prospect. Unloading his reasonable salary? Makes it even better.

Really don't understand the point of bringing up Senyshyn in this post, but alright.

 

[Fenian24]

What rebuild debrusk 30 goals next year seny is gonna make the team. Carlo and mcavoy for the next decade. Pasta only 22 and one of the best winger in the league. Vak Clifton studs back there. Grez only 23 and can skate like the wind . We have studnicka knocking on the door as well. What rebuild?

If Senyshyn makes the team somehow it will be as a bottom six forward, pretty sure we will all see he is a bust after this season.

What has Vaakanien shown to indicate "stud" level prospect? If he and Clifton are stud D I would hate to see what you call Hedman or Doughty.

As I mentioned with Studnicka, he is a great prospect, why ruin him by bringing him in when he isn't ready, let him have a season in Providence to mature and learn the pro game.

The rebuild is none of the players you mention have Chara, Bergeron, Rask or Krecji futures. All of those players are past or getting past their primes and heading into the decline of great careers. You don't start to look ahead and start to inject legitimate prospect (not Cehlarik or Bjork) into your line up you bottom out completely.

I wish their was cap space to go get a second line W and two tough forward who can play but that does not appear to be the case.

 

[Marcobruin]

I'm more of a fan now of Krug than ever. He is very competitive and feisty however
If they can package him.and DK
And get something good in return.. I'd do it.

Maybe get a Duchesne or Panarin or both
Deal Krug for Mantha
Deal krejci for prospect
Or
Make offersheet to Point
After dealing those guys

If a good offer comes in for Rask
I'd do it.

Many teams have won the cup with mediocre to average goalies including the Blues

 

[Trizz617]

Want to ruin a prospect like Studnicka? Bring him in before he is ready to compete in the NHL and ruin his confidence and set him back. Bjork and Senyshyn seem to be this years Koko and Spooner, let's remember how great that worked out. Neither has shown any indication of being an NHL player. Senyshyn "the goal scorer" had 14 in the AHL last year, not exactly setting the world on fire.

I'm all for bring in kids to use in the bottom six if you have some that are capable of doing it, the Bruins do not appear to. Too many years of Shayne Stevenson as the "next Neely" or Zach Hamill as the next Bergeron. Stop the insanity, go get a real live top 6 winger, most likely this is going to have to be by trade. There are no internal solutions at forward. Frederic may be able to help fill some of the grit and toughness void but I would prefer that he be a compliment to an older player already established in that role.

We will see come October then. So we're ruining prospects before they hit the ice now? Seny & Bjork are Koko and Spooner reincarnated before next year even starts? lol. I do see where you're coming from in all fairness re: bottom 6 usage and bringing along slowly. However, let's just see what happens first. Seny was also stuck on the bottom 6 playing with grinders in Prov. Not excusing his performance, but putting it into proper perspective.

 

[Marcobruin]

Yeah, that's just what Boston needs to do. Trade their #2 center for a good prospect. Unloading his reasonable salary? Makes it even better.

Really don't understand the point of bringing up Senyshyn in this post, but alright.

Other posts are talking about him making the team on this forum

Read what I posted
Completely.

 

[The don godfather]

If Senyshyn makes the team somehow it will be as a bottom six forward, pretty sure we will all see he is a bust after this season.

What has Vaakanien shown to indicate "stud" level prospect? If he and Clifton are stud D I would hate to see what you call Hedman or Doughty.

As I mentioned with Studnicka, he is a great prospect, why ruin him by bringing him in when he isn't ready, let him have a season in Providence to mature and learn the pro game.

The rebuild is none of the players you mention have Chara, Bergeron, Rask or Krecji futures. All of those players are past or getting past their primes and heading into the decline of great careers. You don't start to look ahead and start to inject legitimate prospect (not Cehlarik or Bjork) into your line up you bottom out completely.

I wish their was cap space to go get a second line W and two tough forward who can play but that does not appear to be the case.

Well we can agree that Carlo mcavoy pasta and debrusk are quite the core young foundation to go forward. All all stars in my opinion. Donny needs to just add to these great 4.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

We will see come October then. So we're ruining prospects before they hit the ice now? Seny & Bjork are Koko and Spooner reincarnated before next year even starts? lol. I do see where you're coming from in all fairness re: bottom 6 usage and bringing along slowly. However, let's just see what happens first. Seny was also stuck on the bottom 6 playing with grinders in Prov. Not excusing his performance, but putting it into proper perspective.

It's Fenian's calling card. All prospects suck (unless they're big and tough).

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Other posts are talking about him making the team on this forum

Read what I posted
Completely.

I did read your post completely. I responded as such. You want to unload Krejci for a prospect. That's a horrid move.

 

[Fenian24]

We will see come October then. So we're ruining prospects before they hit the ice now? Seny & Bjork are Koko and Spooner reincarnated before next year even starts? lol. I do see where you're coming from in all fairness re: bottom 6 usage and bringing along slowly. However, let's just see what happens first. Seny was also stuck on the bottom 6 playing with grinders in Prov. Not excusing his performance, but putting it into proper perspective.

I only got to see a few Providence games this year and I noticed he was with the third line with no power play time or very little. I like his speed and his shot is ok (not sure if NHL level) but he seems lost, a lot. He seems to be a kid who was great at every lower level due to his physical gifts and never learned to play the game. Maybe that is why he is on the third line in Providence, I hope so and he learns the game and at least becomes a big, fast winger who will hit and check. I am not rooting against him, he has done whatever management has asked and seems like a willing learner.

Bjork might be fast but is made of glass.

Studnicka is young, a year in the minors won't hurt him, he needs to develop into a top 2 center, let him dominate the AHL then call him up in a year, with Hayes contract probably pricing Coyle out of Boston the 3C spot should be a competition between him and Frederic.

 

[Marcobruin]

I did read your post completely. I responded as such. You want to unload Krejci for a prospect. That's a horrid move.

I said get a young star center
Ex They can make offer sheet to Point and maybe TB doesn't match
Or sign Duchesne.
As much of a fan I am of krejci.
And I always said he should have been our number 1 center
Fact is he's getting old and he's played lots of hockey . His playoff numbers not to good last 3 seasons most probably since he doesn't have a good rwinger.
We hold these guys too long we will get nothing in return and we will stay have to pay their salaries.

 

[Fenian24]

Well we can agree that Carlo mcavoy pasta and debrusk are quite the core young foundation to go forward. All all stars in my opinion. Donny needs to just add to these great 4.

It is a good core just don't over value guys who have shown nothing so far like Vak and Senyshyn. I love Clifton but you don't want him as a top 4 D, you are in tough shape if that is the case. I think the D does have some decent prospects,much more so than the forwards

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

It is a good core just don't over value guys who have shown nothing so far like Vak and Senyshyn. I love Clifton but you don't want him as a top 4 D, you are in tough shape if that is the case. I think the D does have some decent prospects,much more so than the forwards

This is so stupid. Vaakanainen was in his first professional season in the AHL and had plenty of moments where you could see why Boston selected him in the first round. He hasn't shown anything at the NHL level, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be highly valued.

 

[Fenian24]

I said get a young star center
Ex They can make offer sheet to Point and maybe TB doesn't match
Or sign Duchesne.
As much of a fan I am of krejci.
And I always said he should have been our number 1 center
Fact is he's getting old and he's played lots of hockey . His playoff numbers not to good last 3 seasons most probably since he doesn't have a good rwinger.
We hold these guys too long we will get nothing in return and we will stay have to pay their salaries.

Offer sheeting Point is a great idea, but what if you trade Krejci and Tampa matches? I love Point, skilled, has a nice nasty edge to his game, young exactly what they need. He is going to get 9M+ probably 10, even with Krejci gone you have to sign Carlo and MacAvoy, where is that money coming from and why wouldn't Tampa match.

Hypothetically if Pasta was a free agent and a team offer sheeted him in the Bruins posistion why wouldn't they match instead of taking 4 first round picks that most likely will all be after 25th?

 

[Mainehockey33]

I'm more of a fan now of Krug than ever. He is very competitive and feisty however
If they can package him.and DK
And get something good in return.. I'd do it.

Maybe get a Duchesne or Panarin or both
Deal Krug for Mantha
Deal krejci for prospect
Or
Make offersheet to Point
After dealing those guys

If a good offer comes in for Rask
I'd do it.

Many teams have won the cup with mediocre to average goalies including the Blues

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume by trade Krejci for a prospect you mean Jack Hughes.

 

[smithformeragent]

Kevin Hayes just established the market for Coyle

However hometown discount to me is 15%

That is the difference between 6 and 7 M


With a hard cap not everyone gets paid

Very interesting team watching

Will end up like MLB

Craig Kimball & Dallas Keuchel were two who got significantly less

Xander Bogearts went for security and signed a deal here that stunned everyone

I’m Krug I ask for 6/39 and a NMC

I’d rather do a Bogearts then deal with the great unknown

I’m good with letting Coyle play out the deal and reevaluating the center position top to bottom after the season.

Give Frederic a crack at some point this season and see where he is at.

 

[Marcobruin]

Offer sheeting Point is a great idea, but what if you trade Krejci and Tampa matches? I love Point, skilled, has a nice nasty edge to his game, young exactly what they need. He is going to get 9M+ probably 10, even with Krejci gone you have to sign Carlo and MacAvoy, where is that money coming from and why wouldn't Tampa match.

Hypothetically if Pasta was a free agent and a team offer sheeted him in the Bruins posistion why wouldn't they match instead of taking 4 first round picks that most likely will all be after 25th?

We can't know for sure but
If someone offer sheets Marner
Especially say a Mtl or a Bos
Im. Certain Tor matches but TB I'm.not so sure .. they'd probably have to deal a Stamkos .(id take him too)

To make more room for a Point
You may have to trade Krug too
For how about a Mantha from Detroit.? Big rw kid with good scoring abilities

 

[Marcobruin]

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume by trade Krejci for a prospect you mean Jack Hughes.

No unless Chiarelli has now been appointed gm of the devils
When I said prospect or star center . It depends how they go about it.
This is why I brought up Point
Krejci would really be more of salary dump to. Attempt in getting a Duchesne Panarin
Or offer sheet to point
They'll have to trade Krug too
Maybe for a Mantha from Detroit.

Essentially, with 2 centers up there in age and their evident slow down . Bruins need to plan for future. I'm not using this year's playoffs as a precursor for the future.

 

[Mainehockey33]

No unless Chiarelli has now been appointed gm of the devils
When I said prospect or star center . It depends how they go about it.
This is why I brought up Point
Krejci would really be more of salary dump to. Attempt in getting a Duchesne Panarin
Or offer sheet to point
They'll have to trade Krug too
Maybe for a Mantha from Detroit.

Essentially, with 2 centers up there in age and their evident slow down . Bruins need to plan for future. I'm not using this year's playoffs as a precursor for the future.

People were also saying they should trade Chara 5-6 years ago. They didn’t and still ended up with his replacement, Mcavoy.

 

[The don godfather]

All I know any team would kill for our under 22 Carlo mcavoy pasta and debrusk. Then blue chips stud and vak. Plus I strongly feel seny is gonna turn heads next year. Were in good shape plus the bonus is we have our 1 st round pick this year.

 

[Marcobruin]

People were also saying they should trade Chara 5-6 years ago. They didn’t and still ended up with his replacement, Mcavoy.

Who do you think will replace
DK? Is there really someone or are we crossing our fingers?
McAvoy is a good young dman
I'm not so sure I'd say he is a Chara replacement. McAvoy different type of player.
Maybe you mean hes our number one Dman and he looks like it .