The Sedins were goons compared to Brock, Petey and Hughes. Daniel tried to fight Perry and Hank tried to elbow Dustin Brown. This team is the softest ever and has no toughness to put on waiver.
Speculation: How do we "fix" things going forward?
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
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Obviously, the coach, GM, AGM should be let go...They have had a very long leash (even more than guys with proven track records).....Chris Gear, Ian Clark will hopefully stick around.
They should get an experienced, veteran coach and GM imo...and possibly a President...(although I'm sure that the Aqualini's will continue to have their hand in things)
I think the team has/and will have a leadership problem..Bo and JTM are natural leaders, but I see both players heading for the exit doors..Elias Pettersson, with his demeanour and body language does not inspire the squad.
The off season implosion should be interesting to see...
They should get an experienced, veteran coach and GM imo...and possibly a President...(although I'm sure that the Aqualini's will continue to have their hand in things)
I think the team has/and will have a leadership problem..Bo and JTM are natural leaders, but I see both players heading for the exit doors..Elias Pettersson, with his demeanour and body language does not inspire the squad.
The off season implosion should be interesting to see...
1. Roberto needs to take over from Francesco
2. A President needs to be hired to put a proper line of division between Ownership and Management.
3. The President needs to not only hire the next GM, but bolster the office with additional experience. Think along the lines of Gillis’ vision for how a modern franchise should be run.
4. The new GM needs to hire a proper NHL coach with a proven track record.
5. New NHL coach should hire their assistants. I presume that Clark stays and the others are gone.
I don’t actually like the idea of making any trades yet. The season is young. Let the new management talk with the players, make their own evaluations, and not rush any trades. I do like the idea of selling one of Miller, Horvat, or Boeser at the deadline but the worst thing we could do is have any of the imbeciles in charge panic sell one of these guys for an inadequate return while their value is low.
2. A President needs to be hired to put a proper line of division between Ownership and Management.
3. The President needs to not only hire the next GM, but bolster the office with additional experience. Think along the lines of Gillis’ vision for how a modern franchise should be run.
4. The new GM needs to hire a proper NHL coach with a proven track record.
5. New NHL coach should hire their assistants. I presume that Clark stays and the others are gone.
I don’t actually like the idea of making any trades yet. The season is young. Let the new management talk with the players, make their own evaluations, and not rush any trades. I do like the idea of selling one of Miller, Horvat, or Boeser at the deadline but the worst thing we could do is have any of the imbeciles in charge panic sell one of these guys for an inadequate return while their value is low.
Great people, well respected, no question but they never won a damn thing here. Quit recycling the old Canucks club and bring people from outside the organization. The Canucks fascination with becoming a small, soft team is baffling to say the least and mission complete it appears. Remember the Sedins pushed for OEL as well.
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
By not chasing quick fixes anymore, for one.
Time to get realistic about the situation and bring in someone who will make the extremely tough decisions to fully rebuild this organization from top to bottom, and that starts with a competent president.
Time to get realistic about the situation and bring in someone who will make the extremely tough decisions to fully rebuild this organization from top to bottom, and that starts with a competent president.
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yes, so the outcome of literally 1 game doesn’t define them , regardless of how hurt you were bu the outcome.
“never won a thing”
Olympic gold
World junior gold
Ted Lindsay
Art Ross
King Clancy
Hart
almost a SC
soon to be hall of famers.
That’s a couple of things they won lol.
this “soft” narrative needs to stop. Actual NHL players have debunked it. They barely missed games. You take 20 Antoine “face wash after the whistle” Roussells and I’ll take 20 “soft” sedins and let’s see who does better.
Proof or another claim that's coming from your ass
I guess you have a short memory, but we tried acquiring him the year before they joined on
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Flashing the leather.
They were and are beyond tough. Your comment is ridiculous.
Now i'm sure you are Iain. As soon as he started to distance himself from Benning, you did the same thing. It's like you guys have some kind of telepathy.
PS: It took you 7 years to see the light. If you are genuine, welcome to the club.
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"No question that Benning has made some poor trades, and signings (mostly in his first 3 years, during the 'rebuild on the fly)..Most notably the Eriksson signing (which according to Lebrun, was an ownership decision)..A lot of teams are scrambling to get under the cap, and the Canucks are no exception..Earlier UFA signings robbed Benning of his flexibility in dealing with the cap this season (this will probably cost him his job in due course)."..PoM Feb 2021Now i'm sure you are Iain. As soon as he started to distance himself from Benning, you did the same thing. It's like you guys have some kind of telepathy.
"PS: It took you 7 years to see the light. If you are genuine, welcome to the club.
I also was surprised he retained his job in the off season...Has nothing to do with iMac.
In saying that, I'm sticking with all the points that I've have made previously where I've defended him ...but clearly, his tenure has come to an end...Times up.
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Never won the one thing that matters in this town and that is the bottom line.
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Nobody won anything in this town going by your logic.
'How do you fix things moving forward'? Sadly there's virtually nothing that can be done to salvage this season now. Obviously changes are coming. The owner is backed into a corner, and although it might kill him to be forced a pay a coach and GM for doing nothing over the next couple of years he basically has no option.
Obviously if you're going to replace the GM, the last thing you want is him making deals that could hamstring his successor or the franchise for years. So the activities of a 'lame duck' GM will be limited to a few waiver wire pickups or minor tweaking, but nothing major.
As far as the coaching staff is concerned, it's not a question of 'if' they're gone, but 'when'. And unfortunately the team is playing as if they know the coach is 'week to week'.
So this season is like an episode of Seinfeld.....basically about nothing--other than where the Canucks ultimately land in the treadmill of lottery teams, and how they do in the draft lottery. All this, and it's not even December. Now that is the height of futility!
Obviously if you're going to replace the GM, the last thing you want is him making deals that could hamstring his successor or the franchise for years. So the activities of a 'lame duck' GM will be limited to a few waiver wire pickups or minor tweaking, but nothing major.
As far as the coaching staff is concerned, it's not a question of 'if' they're gone, but 'when'. And unfortunately the team is playing as if they know the coach is 'week to week'.
So this season is like an episode of Seinfeld.....basically about nothing--other than where the Canucks ultimately land in the treadmill of lottery teams, and how they do in the draft lottery. All this, and it's not even December. Now that is the height of futility!
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BC lions did in like the early 2000s. In a league with 6 teams and 2 of them the same name.
We are talking hockey here. Don't tell me about the Vancouver Millionaires.
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Imagine a GM that’s not 100 years old who spends 1M on :
* an accountant to deal with cap
* a lawyer to deal with the league
* a trained negotiator to deal with contracts
* an HR person to conduct pre draft interviews
* a psychiatrist to regularly check in on players
* sports scientist to help with sleep / travel / nutrition
* data tracker to track advanced stats
all that would cost 1M per year total. Not a bad spend on a 84M investment.
Nahhhhh. Just hire 2-3 sixty year olds who used to play hockey 40 years ago that need help turning on a computer.
* an accountant to deal with cap
* a lawyer to deal with the league
* a trained negotiator to deal with contracts
* an HR person to conduct pre draft interviews
* a psychiatrist to regularly check in on players
* sports scientist to help with sleep / travel / nutrition
* data tracker to track advanced stats
all that would cost 1M per year total. Not a bad spend on a 84M investment.
Nahhhhh. Just hire 2-3 sixty year olds who used to play hockey 40 years ago that need help turning on a computer.
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Fire Dim and bring back Linden into the organization.
Oh yeah... and get F.A to sell the team... F.A doesn't know sweet F.A about ice hockey.
Oh yeah... and get F.A to sell the team... F.A doesn't know sweet F.A about ice hockey.
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