Trilliann
Tier 2 fan
the point is Scheifele wasn't in the NHL so we can't say he did better, we can't possibly know thatOn plays along the boards. Nothing to do with points.
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the point is Scheifele wasn't in the NHL so we can't say he did better, we can't possibly know thatOn plays along the boards. Nothing to do with points.
Huh??
Lets call a spade a spade. January of his draft year, I brought his name up in the draft thread we had running, and the feedback I got towards suggesting Stanley would be a potential draft pick was hostile and very critical.
There was hardly anything stated positively towards him on here, and it was not based on watching him.
It really does not matter I guess, we all want him to pan out for us, and he is looking very much like he will pan out.
Lets call a spade a spade. January of his draft year, I brought his name up in the draft thread we had running, and the feedback I got towards suggesting Stanley would be a potential draft pick was hostile and very critical.
There was hardly anything stated positively towards him on here, and it was not based on watching him.
It really does not matter I guess, we all want him to pan out for us, and he is looking very much like he will pan out.
the point is Scheifele wasn't in the NHL so we can't say he did better, we can't possibly know that
he played 7 games in his first year and 4 games in his second year.Scheifele was not in the NHL in his 2nd year? Huh? Plus you just said he played 11 games in his first year. Huh?
I think we are done here.
he played 7 games in his first year and 4 games in his second year.
True, but we did not see the puck cross the goal line. It may have disappeared into thin air for all we know and only rematerialized when the goalie stood up.I think the Roslovic goal would of counted if preseason had reviews.
True, but we did not see the puck cross the goal line. It may have disappeared into thin air for all we know and only rematerialized when the goalie stood up.
Prepared enough not to get sent down.. Unfortunately we don't get to draft 25 year old finished products, we get teenagers and all of them have stuff to work on.So he played in the NHL. And Laine played a whole year in a men's league before coming over? He should have been more prepared to play against adult pro players.
That is the point.
That is possible. I always thought that if the opposing team knocks their own net off without help from the scoring team while the puck is about to cross the goal line it should count. That would have been a prime example of it last night.
On plays along the boards. Nothing to do with points.
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Lol, we need to dig up gifs of Scheif at 20 years old falling every time he was touched around the boards.
The GDTs where full of Schiefele Down! and cries of Bambi! and not to mention that he needed to be sent back to the A.
Actually that may have been his 21 year old year.
He was not involved in as many playing Centre and I don't remember him having as hard a time as Laine.
Keep in mind Laine played in a men's league before coming over.
Has nothing to do with me wanting Laine to be better along the boards.
I don't remember talking about how great Scheifele was in his first few years anyway along the boards. Scheifele fell down a lot all over, not just along the boards.
Laine needs to put the same work in to get better
Do you not recall #ScheifeleDown and his affectionate nickname, Bambi? A soft breeze would knock him over. He redistributed his strength and lowered his center of gravity and now he's a beast on the boards. Takes longer for some more than others.
EDIT: Didn't see this all had been addressed.
Lets call a spade a spade. January of his draft year, I brought his name up in the draft thread we had running, and the feedback I got towards suggesting Stanley would be a potential draft pick was hostile and very critical.
There was hardly anything stated positively towards him on here, and it was not based on watching him.
It really does not matter I guess, we all want him to pan out for us, and he is looking very much like he will pan out.
Just putting it out there, but PCS viewed all 3 years as somewhat similar scoring rates relative to age... although the second year was viewed slightly, relatively better.
I don’t think people viewed him only drafted for size but merely size is an overvalued variable and so he was overvalued... overvalued doesn’t mean it has no value.
This rather accurately describes Joe Morrow's "goal" last night; The computers could not speak.Double post. Dumb computer.
I'm sure he will. Laine is light years ahead of Scheif and most other players at his age. I just think we need to temper our expectations a bit. He may win the Rocket, he may break more records, he may contribute more points this year, BUT he still has some work to do....... that's scary potential.
It isn't taking Laine longer than Scheif though. How old was Schief when he finally could battle along the boards? 22? 23? We all keep forgetting how young and gangly Patrik is.
When will we see results from better models, that account more for context in junior production? This is particularly valid for production for junior defensemen. PP production is the simplest adjustment, which could be easily incorporated. Beyond that, I would think that production at a particular age is determined substantially by who else is on the team's defense, the style of play (defensemen in some systems score a lot more than in other systems), and the overall offensive productivity of a team.Just putting it out there, but PCS viewed all 3 years as somewhat similar scoring rates relative to age... although the second year was viewed slightly, relatively better.
I don’t think people viewed him only drafted for size but merely size is an overvalued variable and so he was overvalued... overvalued doesn’t mean it has no value.
I think a lot of Jets fans holding PCS as holier-than-thou is big reason why so many were so down on Stanley even though they had never seen him play a game themselves.
How do you know how well Laine would do along the boards in a junior league? I think he'd do quite well.On plays along the boards. Nothing to do with points.
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