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He won't but I don't want to say which undrafted player he's like. He does extremely little besides scoring and that's why he's still at Inter.
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He won't but I don't want to say which undrafted player he's like. He does extremely little besides scoring and that's why he's still at Inter.
That's the point of a striker to score goals, no? And don't worry because I am going to draft him too (hopefully).
YNWA14
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Lacazette is a bit overrated. The way people were raving about him you'd think he scored 30 this season. This is a fine spot for him and there are still better strikers available.
Well I didn't draft him to be a 20 goalscorer, I drafted him for his work rate and his assist ratio (one of the best). However, he can also provide around 15 goals a season with 10 to 12 assists, that's not overrated if you were to ask me.
Lacazette : 13+10 in 2502 EPL minutes. He appeared in 31% of his team's goals.
Firmino : 12+7 in 2620 EPL minutes. He appeared in 21% of his team's goals.
He provides more than Firmino as a 9.
Change my mind.
Wee Baby Seamus
Yo, Goober, where's the meat?
As for Isco, he's still a good player, just not what some make him out to be. It's well documented that he had issues with Ancelotti, Zidane and Solari. It's also been reported that he isn't working hard enough in training at times.
Exactly. It's not like we were like "hmmm, who should I take for LB?" and completely forgot about him. I changed my mind at the last minute. I could have taken him and even as of last night was going to, but factoring in his recent injury record as should be considered I figured I couldn't get that strong a backup later on. I also figured people were bypassing because of said injury record and I could get him later on. As good as he is, he's averaged 7 league starts a season the last two seasons and is currently looking to get fit just to make the start of this season. Were his injury not recurring I'd have gone with him, but as it stands now I didn't want to risk it.
Umtiti's injury situation really isn't comparable to Mendy's at the moment.
Exactly. It's not like we were like "hmmm, who should I take for LB?" and completely forgot about him. I changed my mind at the last minute. I could have taken him and even as of last night was going to, but factoring in his recent injury record as should be considered I figured I couldn't get that strong a backup later on. I also figured people were bypassing because of said injury record and I could get him later on. As good as he is, he's averaged 7 league starts a season the last two seasons and is currently looking to get fit just to make the start of this season. Were his injury not recurring I'd have gone with him, but as it stands now I didn't want to risk it.
Umtiti's injury situation really isn't comparable to Mendy's at the moment.
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YNWA14
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This season Firmino played as a midfielder with Mane and Salah taking up the striking position the vast majority of the time:
Lacazette: 49 apps, 19 goals, 13 assists
Firmino: 48 apps, 16 goals, 8 assists
Last season Firmino played as the 9 (though was still not the primary goal scorer or focal point, and again Salah much more advanced):
Lacazette: 39 apps, 17 goals, 5 assists
Firmino: 54 apps, 27 goals, 17 assists
Over the last two seasons then:
Lacazette: 88 apps, 36 goals, 18 assists
Firmino: 102 apps, 43 goals, 25 assists
All this while not even being the primary, or secondary goal scoring option and contributing way more off the ball. But I already know you're not to be convinced there.
Luckily Klopp has one as one of his most important players in an historically good Liverpool team that just won the CL. Lacazette is a pretty good player though, he just isn't on Firmino's level.
Duchene2MacKinnon
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You're right, he's a better 9.This season Firmino played as a midfielder with Mane and Salah taking up the striking position the vast majority of the time:
Lacazette: 49 apps, 19 goals, 13 assists
Firmino: 48 apps, 16 goals, 8 assists
Last season Firmino played as the 9 (though was still not the primary goal scorer or focal point, and again Salah much more advanced):
Lacazette: 39 apps, 17 goals, 5 assists
Firmino: 54 apps, 27 goals, 17 assists
Over the last two seasons then:
Lacazette: 88 apps, 36 goals, 18 assists
Firmino: 102 apps, 43 goals, 25 assists
All this while not even being the primary, or secondary goal scoring option and contributing way more off the ball. But I already know you're not to be convinced there.
Since you tried painfully to include last season where Laca didn't much playing time and was getting used to a new league.
Should we use Firmino's first EPL season numbers too?
Please don't otherwise people would think he's not even good enough for the EPL.
Firmino played striker this year. Just like last year.
Paulie Gualtieri
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My first 11 players:
--Mbappe - Firmino --- Son----
--------Thomas - Allan-----------
------------Pjanic-----------------
-Alaba-XXX-Skriniar-Cancelo-
-----------Szczesny--------------
Bench: Aouar (still available if anybody wants).
Pjanic will be used as a deeper playmaker, with two very defensively solid, high energy, box-to-box players in Thomas and Allan together with him. Thomas and Allan aren't exactly flashy players that'll create much offense by themselves, but since most of those good flashy midfielders already were gone, I might as well pick players that are very good at neutralizing an opposition midfield. Which is why I think my midfield matches up well against many others.
Ideally I'd want a better deeper playmaker than Pjanic though. f*** me do I regret trading De Jong.
--Mbappe - Firmino --- Son----
--------Thomas - Allan-----------
------------Pjanic-----------------
-Alaba-XXX-Skriniar-Cancelo-
-----------Szczesny--------------
Bench: Aouar (still available if anybody wants).
Pjanic will be used as a deeper playmaker, with two very defensively solid, high energy, box-to-box players in Thomas and Allan together with him. Thomas and Allan aren't exactly flashy players that'll create much offense by themselves, but since most of those good flashy midfielders already were gone, I might as well pick players that are very good at neutralizing an opposition midfield. Which is why I think my midfield matches up well against many others.
Ideally I'd want a better deeper playmaker than Pjanic though. f*** me do I regret trading De Jong.
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Duchene2MacKinnon
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Brandt bought in as "replacement" for Pullisic. drafted 68th while Pullisic drafted 130. One went for 30 million the other what was it 80? Food for thought.
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Pulisic is 3 years younger as well. I still think, and have always thought that Pulisic is extremely overrated and I was glad that we did not sign him.
I was choosing between him and Insigne. Insigne had a few strange injuries this year, but his numbers were good when playing for a new manager. Was an easy decision in the end.
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Felt about right for Pulisic here. Going to have a ton of minutes opened up for him at Chelsea because of departures, age and injuries. That forward line is going to be built around him. Let's see what he does with it
Pavel Buchnevich
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Pulisic quietly had the best season of his career. It went under the radar due to his mid season transfer, constant injuries and Sancho’s great season.
He has limited passing vision and isn’t much of a goal scorer, but there are few players in the sport who are better dribblers and he had a very good xG/xA season, along with a good G+A season per minute. I would’ve preferred he stayed and moved into a starting role. He was one of our best players towards the end of the season, but I’ll also take Brandt. Both are good players. Brandt had a very low release clause and doesn’t come with the recognition of Pulisic.
He has limited passing vision and isn’t much of a goal scorer, but there are few players in the sport who are better dribblers and he had a very good xG/xA season, along with a good G+A season per minute. I would’ve preferred he stayed and moved into a starting role. He was one of our best players towards the end of the season, but I’ll also take Brandt. Both are good players. Brandt had a very low release clause and doesn’t come with the recognition of Pulisic.
Vasilevskiy
The cat will be back
I was thinking of taking Vinicius, but I rate Chiesa a lot.
Hakimi was going to be my main FB choice but thought I could wait a couple more rounds and have two starting ones in M. alonso and him. Guess not.
Good string of selections
Hakimi was going to be my main FB choice but thought I could wait a couple more rounds and have two starting ones in M. alonso and him. Guess not.
Good string of selections
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