Confirmed with Link: Hertl re-signs to 4 year contract 5.625 AAV

[hockfan1991]

If we were willing to give that much per year. I'm surprised it's only a four year deal. For that amount annual average. We should've at least gotten five or six years for the deal. The carp hits fine. If it were a bit longer. I figure shorter term he'd get maybe 5-5.25 tops

 

[FunkyPhin]

Why does it matter, only way we're getting someone is through trade with players going back the other way. Thornton said he'd take a discount if we made a huge FA splash, we didn't so pay him. Hertl was a little expensive 5-5.5 is what I would have liked.

 

[STL Shark]

DW overpaid for a guy that had no leverage in this negotiation. Paid more AAV to buy up less UFA years than expected. Doesn’t seem like a typical DW negotiation. It’s like Oprah since Jt said Toronto. You get an extra million, you get an extra million, everyone gets an extra million over market value.

 

[Negatively Positive]

We're long gone from the days where DW got steals with Vlasic at 4.5 mill, Pavs and Couture at 6 mill, Jumbo signing below market value all those years. DW's lost his touch with the hometown discounts.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

If this was an overpayment it was by 0.7M tops. No way was Hertl going to sign for under 5M, 5.7M is probably 0.2M higher than I had expected so still very acceptable.

 

[Maladroit]

I don't understand not going eight years on term if this was the AAV. Or a lower AAV on a four-year term. Seems like Doug Wilson just agreed to the first thing Hertl's agent proposed.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

DW overpaid for a guy that had no leverage in this negotiation. Paid more AAV to buy up less UFA years than expected. Doesn’t seem like a typical DW negotiation. It’s like Oprah since Jt said Toronto. You get an extra million, you get an extra million, everyone gets an extra million over market value.

Since J.T. said Toronto? He started this when he gave Vlasic $7M/8Y and Jones $5.75M/6Y and he didn’t stop after that.

We're long gone from the days where DW got steals with Vlasic at 4.5 mill, Pavs and Couture at 6 mill, Jumbo signing below market value all those years. DW's lost his touch with the hometown discounts.

LONG GONE. Kane, Vlasic, Couture, Hertl, Jones...all overpaid. Even Thornton’s most recent contract isn’t exactly team friendly.

 

[Gilligans Island]

guess what all us need to do (me included) is look at "percentage of cap". deals done a few years ago are now under market.

 

[Led Zappa]

You're overpaid, you're overpaid, everyone's overpaid!

 

[Gilligans Island]

You're overpaid, you're overpaid, everyone's overpaid!

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

guess what all us need to do (me included) is look at "percentage of cap". deals done a few years ago are now under market.

Kane, Vlasic, Hertl, Jones, and Couture are all overpaid in terms of percentage of cap hit relative to their production and peers.

 

[Negatively Positive]

Pavs 4-5 years 7 mill per coming up.

 

[Maladroit]

Are there any other forwards in the NHL making upwards of $5.5mil without a single 50-point season to their credit?

EDIT: Quick look at CapFriendly indicates the highest paid forward who has never hit 50 points in a season is Martin Hanzal, who signed for three years at $4.75mil as a UFA. I really don't understand this Hertl contract.

 

[StanleyCup2035]

 

[StanleyCup2035]

Hertl's fiancee is about to ask for a bigger diamond!

 

[spintops]

I think Hertl is overpaid, but it seems worth mentioning that contracts have all gotten a big bump the last few years. You can play the "has a player that never hit this arbitrary number gotten this much money" in every sport.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Are there any other forwards in the NHL making upwards of $5.5mil without a single 50-point season to their credit?

Probably the same as forwards making $7M without a single 60-point season to their credit in Kane’s case.

But of course, the DW defenders will insist that he is not overpaying anybody. Sigh.

 

[Gilligans Island]

Are there any other forwards in the NHL making upwards of $5.5mil without a single 50-point season to their credit?

Not a great list to be compared to...

Bolland
Foligno (1 51 pt season)
Horvat (1 52 pt season)

 

[tahoesharksfan]

I only have one thing to say about this signing...YES!

 

[Pavelski2112]

guess what all us need to do (me included) is look at "percentage of cap". deals done a few years ago are now under market.

This. It's called inflation.

 

[Maladroit]

I think Hertl is overpaid, but it seems worth mentioning that contracts have all gotten a big bump the last few years. You can play the "has a player that never hit this arbitrary number gotten this much money" in every sport.

That's a fair point but the Lightning literally just signed JT Miller for a smaller cap hit and an additional year fresh off back-to-back 55+ point seasons.

I would rather have Hertl than Miller but points are ultimately what get you paid in the NHL. What concerns me is this long string of overpayments by Wilson (Vlasic, Jones, Kane, Couture and now Hertl).

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Since J.T. said Toronto? He started this when he gave Vlasic $7M/8Y and Jones $5.75M/6Y and he didn’t stop after that.



LONG GONE. Kane, Vlasic, Couture, Hertl, Jones...all overpaid. Even Thornton’s most recent contract isn’t exactly team friendly.

It's almost like salaries rise as the cap rises..crazy.

 

[one2gamble]

That's a crazy number.....wtf dw


Though I called it and it doesn't bother me

 

[spintops]

That's a fair point but the Lightning literally just signed JT Miller for a smaller cap hit and an additional year fresh off back-to-back 55+ point seasons.

I would rather have Hertl than Miller but points are ultimately what get you paid in the NHL.

I agree, I don't love the contract. Wish we would have got him for 5-6 years at that cost. Just don't like comparing current contracts to old ones, see PK Subban -> Drew Doughty, etc etc. On the points thing -> This board is always arguing that Hertl does more then the points show,etc. Doug must have though the same lol

 

[Bizz]

Will be well worth it once he becomes a consistent 65-70 point forward who is able to drive possession. He's probably the 2nd best Shark at that behind Thornton.