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A relative recently has been diagnosed with mild diabetes 2 due to excess sugar in her system. She is in her 40s now

so now she needs to clean up her diet and exercise with more intensity. She has also started taking apple cider vinegar, and says that has helped

her fear is slowly losing her vision due to this...

=T . Anyone else have a tip, not resorting to taking medical drugs?

A keto diet would probably reverse her blood sugar at her age. Wouldn't work so well if she was much older. She probably has insulin resistance . Intermittent fasting would also help a lot as would prolonged fasting. There is a ton of stuff on you tube on all these subjects. Best to watch several of them and get well informed before embarking on any of these suggestions. I'm sure they will all help a lot but you need to be informed and discipline otherwise they can be dangerous if not properly executed.
 
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A keto diet would probably reverse her blood sugar at her age. Wouldn't work so well if she was much older. She probably has insulin resistance . Intermittent fasting would also help a lot as would prolonged fasting. There is a ton of stuff on you tube on all these subjects. Best to watch several of them and get well informed before embarking on any of these suggestions. I'm sure they will all help a lot but you need to be informed and discipline otherwise they can be dangerous if not properly executed.

Unfortunately she has tried/won't fast

she starts to shake when she skips a meal
 

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Unfortunately she has tried/won't fast

she starts to shake when she skips a meal

Unfortunately she has tried/won't fast

she starts to shake when she skips a meal

Well fasting is not something you just do like that. I don't usually do keto but I gradually worked my diet into keto and sustained it for a week before fasting for 3 days. Teaching your body to rely on fats rather than carbs for energy takes some time.Your friend is clearly sugar addicted , if she wants to reverse her blood sugar without meds
it will take some work. Taking the meds that are available for diabetes is a losing proposition. She'll eventually lose more than just her sight even with meds. Patients are told diabetes is a degenerative disease, if you take insulin it's guaranteed to be because insulin is exactly what is causing the problem in the first place. In the end you end up feeding big pharma while you lose your sight and limbs.

Just taking sugar and grains out of her diet and limiting fruit would be a step in the right direction but depending on how bad her issue is it's a slow process. It took years for her to get where she's at and unless she's ready to do some extreme things it will take her years to reverse it.
 
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Well fasting is not something you just do like that. I don't usually do keto but I gradually worked my diet into keto and sustained it for a week before fasting for 3 days. Teaching your body to rely on fats rather than carbs for energy takes some time.Your friend is clearly sugar addicted , if she wants to reverse her blood sugar without meds
it will take some work. Taking the meds that are available for diabetes is a losing proposition. She'll eventually lose more than just her sight even with meds. Patients are told diabetes is a degenerative disease, if you take insulin it's guaranteed to be because insulin is exactly what is causing the problem in the first place. In the end you end up feeding big pharma while you lose your sight and limbs.

Just taking sugar and grains out of her diet and limiting fruit would be a step in the right direction but depending on how bad her issue is it's a slow process. It took years for her to get where she's at and unless she's ready to do some extreme things it will take her years to reverse it.

Only going by what I read in the Undoctored and Wheat Belly communites,but most people lower A1C in quick fashion,meaning a few months. Reversing damaged B cells is probably out of reach,but taking every step to give the pancreas a break will help. There is soy,grain and hidden sugars hiding in many places,so reading ingredients is crucial. Many people see an initial rise in A1C for awhile,but perseverance is key. Fasting is a powerful tool.whether it be 12,24 or 72 hours,or longer.
 

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Only going by what I read in the Undoctored and Wheat Belly communites,but most people lower A1C in quick fashion,meaning a few months. Reversing damaged B cells is probably out of reach,but taking every step to give the pancreas a break will help. There is soy,grain and hidden sugars hiding in many places,so reading ingredients is crucial. Many people see an initial rise in A1C for awhile,but perseverance is key. Fasting is a powerful tool.whether it be 12,24 or 72 hours,or longer.

Couldn't agree more. I do 16hrs almost every day, 24 once a week and 72 every 4 months.

Most people are not going to take the time to investigate everything they eat. Many are not aware that many foods deemed "healthy" are really not. Most people think of sugar as just that, sugar is in everything just about and comes in so many different disguises including on food labels.
 
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I don't mean to bump this thread on one of the great cheat days of the year - and I will certainly be loading up on hot dogs and hamburgers later.

But I just thought I'd share this.

My mom surprised me with a lighted jump rope for the Fourth of July. I had looked into them before, but judging by the reviews, most were kids' toys, not made to either last or do any serious jumping.

The one she found is actually very close in feel to a normal rope, so most trick jumps are doable.

I actually jump simply because I love doing it, and it's an inexpensive hobby (though it's not always fun in the Texas summers).

But it's obviously good for me health-wise. And if I ever do go back to rec league hockey, I probably won't be coming off for a line change with 14 seconds left in a period of a championship game. ;)

Here's a short freestyle I did last night:
 

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So I've decided to change up my diet, and I'm not doing the keto diet proper, but kind of following the spirit of it by loading up on protein and cutting carbs as much as possible. So like for dinner I've been having a lot of roasted peppers on the side of whatever meat I'm eating instead of potatoes/rice.

It's too early to notice much of an effect, but one thing I will say is that my brain is so used to me snacking at this point in the evening that it wants the dopamine fix from eating something, but my stomach is actually satiated from the protein I ate at dinner, so the two are at odds. I've been giving in to it and snacking on homemade peanut butter oat bars, which at least are healthier than store-bought cookies or chips. Hopefully the more I get used to this that craving to eat so much goes away.
 

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I've been following these two fitness channels on youtube lately:

''Every Damn Day Fitness'' - guy with tons of experience making fun of stupid youtube fitness channels and their protagonists - entertaining and informative.

Every Damn Day Fitness

''Shredded Sports Science'' - he's doing the same thing, less aggressive though - recommended.

Shredded Sports Science

They don't post exercises, programs or film themselves lifting; they are on anti bullshit, broscience mission and they are very effective.
 

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I've been following these two fitness channels on youtube lately:

''Every Damn Day Fitness'' - guy with tons of experience making fun of stupid youtube fitness channels and their protagonists - entertaining and informative.

Every Damn Day Fitness

''Shredded Sports Science'' - he's doing the same thing, less aggressive though - recommended.

Shredded Sports Science

They don't post exercises, programs or film themselves lifting; they are on anti bull****, broscience mission and they are very effective.
I like AthleanX. Jeff knows a lot about the science of health and fitness and his videos are usually educational.



I like learning about exercises I’m not doing, sometimes I add them to what I already do. The dumbbell pullover is something I added fairly recently. I’m going to add glute bridges this week.
 
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I signed up for the Manchester Marathon on November 10th.

Swore I’d never do it again, but if I don’t have a reason to train, complacency sets in.

I ran a 10 mile race over the weekend and exceeded my expectations.
 
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On the menu for the Bruins: baby bok choy, turnips, and spaghetti squash - The Boston Globe


The habits of today’s NHLers are alien to their predecessors. Old-time players reached for a smoke between periods and beers after a win. Water breaks at practice were rewards, not required. The league was running on steak and potatoes.

“I don’t remember diet being a consideration at all,” said Rick Middleton, who retired as a Bruin in 1988.

Had “Nifty” played today, he might grab a breakfast of avocado and egg whites at the Bruins’ spiffy practice palace, Warrior Ice Arena. After a workout, he would shed his wearable performance monitor and down a recovery smoothie of plant protein and antioxidant-laden berries. He might tuck into a lunch of spaghetti squash with pumpkin seeds and portobello mushrooms.

They moved into Warrior in 2016, after nearly 30 years practicing at Ristuccia Arena in Wilmington. Their new digs have all the amenities modern NHLers expect: a tech-loaded weight room and indoor speed track, hot and cold tubs for recovery, an underwater treadmill, a cushy player lounge. They began hiring more trainers and an analytics department, both new NHL standards.

The kitchen is their area of recent progress. Though many NHL teams already had dietitians on the payroll, the Bruins didn’t have one until 2015, when they hired Julie Nicoletti of Westwood-based Kinetic Fuel. They made Keith Garman their first team chef last season, and made him full-time this year. The pair has helped change attitudes.

“When I first started, pregame meal was a lot of steak, mashed potatoes and pasta,” Nicoletti said. “If we put that out there now, there would be a huge rebellion.

This has been a fairly recent development leaguewide. In the late 1990s, the Bruins handed their prospects an offseason training guide, which included plans for low-cost healthy eating. It recommended pancakes, French toast, waffles, and muffins for breakfast. Top toast with jelly instead of butter or cream cheese. Pizza for lunch? Of course, but with onions and peppers, not hamburg and sausage.

That was health food compared to Middleton’s day, when few players even lifted weights.

“The first time we were even tested, early in the season with the Rangers in 1975, we were in a room with some treadmill,” Middleton recalled. “Peter Stemkowski was on the treadmill with a hose coming out of his mouth. Someone came into the room and tripped over the cord, and the treadmill stopped. He kept going. He ran right into the wall.”
 

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On the menu for the Bruins: baby bok choy, turnips, and spaghetti squash - The Boston Globe


The habits of today’s NHLers are alien to their predecessors. Old-time players reached for a smoke between periods and beers after a win. Water breaks at practice were rewards, not required. The league was running on steak and potatoes.

“I don’t remember diet being a consideration at all,” said Rick Middleton, who retired as a Bruin in 1988.

Had “Nifty” played today, he might grab a breakfast of avocado and egg whites at the Bruins’ spiffy practice palace, Warrior Ice Arena. After a workout, he would shed his wearable performance monitor and down a recovery smoothie of plant protein and antioxidant-laden berries. He might tuck into a lunch of spaghetti squash with pumpkin seeds and portobello mushrooms.

They moved into Warrior in 2016, after nearly 30 years practicing at Ristuccia Arena in Wilmington. Their new digs have all the amenities modern NHLers expect: a tech-loaded weight room and indoor speed track, hot and cold tubs for recovery, an underwater treadmill, a cushy player lounge. They began hiring more trainers and an analytics department, both new NHL standards.

The kitchen is their area of recent progress. Though many NHL teams already had dietitians on the payroll, the Bruins didn’t have one until 2015, when they hired Julie Nicoletti of Westwood-based Kinetic Fuel. They made Keith Garman their first team chef last season, and made him full-time this year. The pair has helped change attitudes.

“When I first started, pregame meal was a lot of steak, mashed potatoes and pasta,” Nicoletti said. “If we put that out there now, there would be a huge rebellion.

This has been a fairly recent development leaguewide. In the late 1990s, the Bruins handed their prospects an offseason training guide, which included plans for low-cost healthy eating. It recommended pancakes, French toast, waffles, and muffins for breakfast. Top toast with jelly instead of butter or cream cheese. Pizza for lunch? Of course, but with onions and peppers, not hamburg and sausage.

That was health food compared to Middleton’s day, when few players even lifted weights.

“The first time we were even tested, early in the season with the Rangers in 1975, we were in a room with some treadmill,” Middleton recalled. “Peter Stemkowski was on the treadmill with a hose coming out of his mouth. Someone came into the room and tripped over the cord, and the treadmill stopped. He kept going. He ran right into the wall.”
Vegetables are the fuel source the body needs to restore and energize. Accompanied with the right portion of protein.
The right mix of vegs and starchy vegs will do wonders.

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I've been investigating getting back into throwing again. I threw the shot and discus in HS and the hammer, weight and discus in college. Found a throwing club here in AZ, and it's really sparked the interest again. Back in Mass, I even went to a Bay State Games meet, just to watch, because I wanted to get back into it. The hardest part is finding a place to practice. This club here has its own facilities, so that would solve that issue. One hard part is that Planet Fitness doesn't allow any power lifting, so if I do actually follow through on this, I'd have to find a gym where I can do all that. All made harder by my travel schedule. Now looking at two gym memberships - one for home and one for work.

But this is the closest I've been to being truly excited about working out (rather than looking at it as something that's good for me, and therefore I power through it), so I'm hoping to be able to make this work.
 

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On the menu for the Bruins: baby bok choy, turnips, and spaghetti squash - The Boston Globe


The habits of today’s NHLers are alien to their predecessors. Old-time players reached for a smoke between periods and beers after a win. Water breaks at practice were rewards, not required. The league was running on steak and potatoes.

“I don’t remember diet being a consideration at all,” said Rick Middleton, who retired as a Bruin in 1988.

Had “Nifty” played today, he might grab a breakfast of avocado and egg whites at the Bruins’ spiffy practice palace, Warrior Ice Arena. After a workout, he would shed his wearable performance monitor and down a recovery smoothie of plant protein and antioxidant-laden berries. He might tuck into a lunch of spaghetti squash with pumpkin seeds and portobello mushrooms.

They moved into Warrior in 2016, after nearly 30 years practicing at Ristuccia Arena in Wilmington. Their new digs have all the amenities modern NHLers expect: a tech-loaded weight room and indoor speed track, hot and cold tubs for recovery, an underwater treadmill, a cushy player lounge. They began hiring more trainers and an analytics department, both new NHL standards.

The kitchen is their area of recent progress. Though many NHL teams already had dietitians on the payroll, the Bruins didn’t have one until 2015, when they hired Julie Nicoletti of Westwood-based Kinetic Fuel. They made Keith Garman their first team chef last season, and made him full-time this year. The pair has helped change attitudes.

“When I first started, pregame meal was a lot of steak, mashed potatoes and pasta,” Nicoletti said. “If we put that out there now, there would be a huge rebellion.

This has been a fairly recent development leaguewide. In the late 1990s, the Bruins handed their prospects an offseason training guide, which included plans for low-cost healthy eating. It recommended pancakes, French toast, waffles, and muffins for breakfast. Top toast with jelly instead of butter or cream cheese. Pizza for lunch? Of course, but with onions and peppers, not hamburg and sausage.

That was health food compared to Middleton’s day, when few players even lifted weights.

“The first time we were even tested, early in the season with the Rangers in 1975, we were in a room with some treadmill,” Middleton recalled. “Peter Stemkowski was on the treadmill with a hose coming out of his mouth. Someone came into the room and tripped over the cord, and the treadmill stopped. He kept going. He ran right into the wall.”
Wow, a lot of fascinating information in there.

For starters, it sounds like Captain Chara's plant-based diet has made its way to the team dietician and chef. Or was it the other way around?

And does the chef travel with the team? It's one thing to have him on salary but traveling with the team isn't cheap. And where would he prepare food?

I'm curious because that sort of eating regimen is most effective if it is adhered to without many cheats. It may have just been for the cameras, but Brad Marchand appeared with Kathryn Tappen earlier this year eating pastries.

The healthy food at the practice facility is especially good for young players, most of whom likely wouldn't know how to prepare such athlete-friendly dishes. But do the players pay for their meals, like at a restaurant?

I think a lot of this strict nutrition monitoring is even more recent than some think. I seem to recall the 2009 Final when during a very long OT game, the Penguins were allegedly sending out for pizzas.
 
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Wow, a lot of fascinating information in there.

For starters, it sounds like Captain Chara's plant-based diet has made its way to the team dietician and chef. Or was it the other way around?

And does the chef travel with the team? It's one thing to have him on salary but traveling with the team isn't cheap. And where would he prepare food?

I'm curious because that sort of eating regimen is most effective if it is adhered to without many cheats. It may have just been for the cameras, but Brad Marchand appeared with Kathryn Tappen earlier this year eating pastries.

The healthy food at the practice facility is especially good for young players, most of whom likely wouldn't know how to prepare such athlete-friendly dishes. But do the players pay for their meals, like at a restaurant?

I think a lot of this strict nutrition monitoring is even more recent than some think. I seem to recall the 2009 Final when during a very long OT game, the Penguins were allegedly sending out for pizzas.

Plant based diets are great for weight loss/control,not great for long term heart health or pancreas health or a myriad of other issues. Been there,done that.
 

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Guess I’ll bump this.

This winter has been a bitch.

Since my marathon in November, I’m up 5 lbs.

Been lifting heavy, but annoyed that the pants are a bit snug. I don’t do well with the cold. I ran the indoor track this morning, but I feel like a hamster.

The diet has been hit and miss too.

Im going to sign up for the half at the end of March so I have a goal to aim for.
 

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Guess I’ll bump this.

This winter has been a *****.

Since my marathon in November, I’m up 5 lbs.

Been lifting heavy, but annoyed that the pants are a bit snug. I don’t do well with the cold. I ran the indoor track this morning, but I feel like a hamster.

The diet has been hit and miss too.

Im going to sign up for the half at the end of March so I have a goal to aim for.

I find weight fluctuations happen throughout the year.

If you are concerned about weight gain, I'll share two things I've noticed that pertain to things you mentioned.

First of all, I find when I lift heavy, my overall workout volume is less; sometimes much less. If I deadlift my single rep max 5-6 sets, the volume is still nowhere near that of 3 sets of 10 at reduced weight. So the calorie burn lifting heavy is frequently less.

Secondly, during winter I hydrate as much as I do during summer, but I sweat less. So I do retain more water weight.

My weight has been all over the place and I attribute it to these factors.

As for myself, my main activity - jumping rope - is something I do just because I've developed a passion for it. I'm sure it's very good for me, but I don't even think of jumping as working out. I jump 3 days a week and lift the other 4, but I'm very close to dropping one day of lifting for another day of jumping.

My personalized 'bro split' is already close to a push-pull-leg routine and I may just do that, at least for the next couple of months before the heat gets brutal.

Being left handed, last October I started learning all my jump crosses leading with my weaker right hand. It was awkward at first, but addressing that weakness has improved my overall jumping.

I did this around New Year's Day to document my progress. I learned the forward and lateral movements watching German boxer Christina Hammer, and made up this routine. Basically I do the crosses leading with the right hand while on the right; I move left and do the same thing leading with the left. Lotsa fun!;)


Note: I know the gloves look hideous but I have to protect my hands. I recently bought some batting gloves that look much better. And they are endorsed by Dustin Pedroia no less!
 
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I find weight fluctuations happen throughout the year.

If you are concerned about weight gain, I'll share two things I've noticed that pertain to things you mentioned.

First of all, I find when I lift heavy, my overall workout volume is less; sometimes much less. If I deadlift my single rep max 5-6 sets, the volume is still nowhere near that of 3 sets of 10 at reduced weight. So the calorie burn lifting heavy is frequently less.

Secondly, during winter I hydrate as much as I do during summer, but I sweat less. So I do retain more water weight.

My weight has been all over the place and I attribute it to these factors.

As for myself, my main activity - jumping rope - is something I do just because I've developed a passion for it. I'm sure it's very good for me, but I don't even think of jumping as working out. I jump 3 days a week and lift the other 4, but I'm very close to dropping one day of lifting for another day of jumping.

My personalized 'bro split' is already close to a push-pull-leg routine and I may just do that, at least for the next couple of months before the heat gets brutal.

Being left handed, last October I started learning all my jump crosses leading with my weaker right hand. It was awkward at first, but addressing that weakness has improved my overall jumping.

I did this around New Year's Day to document my progress. I learned the forward and lateral movements watching German boxer Christina Hammer, and made up this routine. Basically I do the crosses leading with the right hand while on the right; I move left and do the same thing leading with the left. Lotsa fun!;)


Note: I know the gloves look hideous but I have to protect my hands. I recently bought some batting gloves that look much better. And they are endorsed by Dustin Pedroia no less!


Nicely done ^^

My routine:

- winter - hockey 3x per week & calisthenics 2-3x per week - basic push, pulls & legs but i use weighted vest - 60 lbs (mainly for push exercises & legs)...pull ups with substantial weight on the back are brutal.

- summer - mountain biking instead of hockey, everything else is pretty much the same.

I am kinda bored of dips, push ups, pull ups, tried numerous variations but i don't have time for gym so i am sticking with that. Take a week off and come back motivated. My latest addition to the home gym is 45 lbs plate:

 
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So friggin sore lately.

I’m off this week for school break, so experimenting with some changes.

Working in more cables as far as arms and back.

I did treadmill instead of the track yesterday and today.

Been back on the wagon with the diet for a couple of weeks now. Giving yo the sweets entirely for lent.

If I don’t have the junk, I don’t crave it. But if I do, the floodgates tend to open up.
 

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