Confirmed with Link: Hawks sign Janmark

[Blackhawkswincup]

Vegas has shown no desire to retain + give up quality asset to move MAF

Infact they appear ready to give up a good #2/3 defender instead to create cap room

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I'm on board with a return like that, but I have zero confidence Bowman pulls that off

He’s not pulling that off because it’s not something Vegas is even considering. Just because they failed to move MAF for the price they tried doesn’t mean they’re automatically now including their top two prospects as sweeteners. This is a made up fan proposal, but now we’re talking about it like it’s an actual possibility.

 

[HawksDub89]

No team is giving a 2nd/3rd round pick for Mattias f***ing Janmark

Yes they would, at the deadline.

Im convinced you’re the hyperbole guy who runs the “puckinhostle” twitter account.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Vegas has shown no desire to retain + give up quality asset to move MAF

Infact they appear ready to give up a good #2/3 defender instead to create cap room

Yep. Not sure why we’re talking about made up moves to justify Strome not being signed.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Decent PKer that might get us a mid to late pick at the deadline, assuming we actually trade for those anymore or if this guy doesn't have a no movement clause.

Maybe they can flip him for another huge bottom pairing defenseman instead.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

He’s not pulling that off because it’s not something Vegas is even considering. Just because they failed to move MAF for the price the tried doesn’t mean they’re automatically now including their top two prospects as sweeteners. This is a made up fan proposal, but now we’re talking about it like it’s an actual possibility.

I'm not saying both, I'm saying one of them.
It took the Leafs trading a 1st to dump Marleau for a year and getting Strome in return isn't awful as he's still a useful player.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Yes they would, at the deadline.

Im convinced you’re the hyperbole guy who runs the “puckinhostle” twitter account.

Mediocre bottom 6 talent is easy to acquire

Teams dont line up to give away quality assets for underwhelming trash like Janmark

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

BTW Strome would probably be pretty damn good on a team like Vegas with a lot of good two way wingers.

 

[ChiHawk21]

The defense isn't awful either. The goalies, otoh.....

Keith-Boqvist
de Haan-Murphy
Zadorov-Mitchell

is not that bad. It's lacking a true #1D but Keith is still a #2 and all of the vets are NHL D and probably 2nd pairing quality....Boqvist and Mitchell are young, so if you're complaining about them it makes no sense.

thats a bottom 10 unit in the league. we dont have a top pair defenseman at this point.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

thats a bottom 10 unit in the league. we dont have a top pair defenseman at this point.

Depends where you think Keith is.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I'm not saying both, I'm saying one of them.
It took the Leafs trading a 1st to dump Marleau for a year and getting Strome in return isn't awful as he's still a useful player.

It doesn’t matter what you’re saying. Vegas has shown no hint they’re willing to attach either to MAF. As BWC said, they’re now trying to move a defenseman instead.

 

[Muffinalt]

Calling Janmark a mid 6 player is a bit of a stretch though. Was he our guy or could Stan still be looking?

If we sign Strome to 2.9 now, we have another 2 mil in cap.

 

[TLEH]

Its fine, but 2.25M seems like a lot for a player that isn't all that good. Still just think we overpay everywhere possible.

 

[ReLyT]

I don't get it. While other teams are signing guys to a million or less. We are giving 2.25 to Janmark who I don't mind but still what? But we couldn't give Crawford an all-time Hawk 3.9. Urgh

 

[HabsQC]

Hope Toews isn't pissed anymore

 

[hawksfan50]

In his rookie years 4 seasons ago Janmark was a +12

He is -10 over 4cseasons now...posting 3 consective minus seasons ...


Basically 4th liner dime a dozen.


Anyone got his pk stats...maybe he can at least do that job?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Stars PK was 17th in NHL with Janmark one of the primary PK forward

So yippee we add a mediocre talent who is mediocre at killing penalties

Also he wont have Bishop/Khudobin in net ,,,,,, He will have the Subban/Delia/Lankinen trio in net

 

[Melrose Munch]

will they sign a goalie now?

 

[ClydeLee]

Pking numbers aren't easy to judge via players impact. Theres the hockey reference Ga/icetime stat and the 2 previous years he was quite good but less so this year. But seems to be usually minute and a half avg 2nd forward group of PKer type.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I like the idea of signing deadline bait, but his cap hit is too high imo.

 

[HawksDub89]

Mediocre bottom 6 talent is easy to acquire

Teams dont line up to give away quality assets for underwhelming trash like Janmark

Luckily most teams aren’t run by jaded fans with an axe to grind. You’re wrong, which is fine.

 

[HawksDub89]

I like the idea of signing deadline bait, but his cap hit is too high imo.

The hawks could retain most if not all of it, and get an asset in return.

likely a 3rd.

 

[RayP]

Mediocre bottom 6 talent is easy to acquire

Teams dont line up to give away quality assets for underwhelming trash like Janmark

Easy to acquire..... sure, but it’s also not where you should he overpaying.

Bottom 6 players need to be developed and replaced internally and remain cost effective/cheap. You need to pay top 6 talent and top 2 defensive pairings and keep those guys more than anyone else.

 

[Kevin Musto]

The hawks could retain most if not all of it, and get an asset in return.

likely a 3rd.

That part I understand, and I'm sure they will.

Just trying to figure out how we're spending cap space. We've got 6M left. Strome is presumably going to get 3 or 3.5M.

Although I think more trades could also be coming.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Easy to acquire..... sure, but it’s also not where you should he overpaying.

Bottom 6 players need to be developed and replaced internally and remain cost effective/cheap. You need to pay top 6 talent and top 2 defensive pairings and keep those guys more than anyone else.

So acquiring $3 million+ third pairing defensemen and bottom sixers like Janmark and Shaw isn’t great?