Have NHL fans had enough of the shootout?
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Pure Slaughter Value
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Like before the shootout when teams played it safe in the third period to ensure they got to OT where they also played it safe to get a point each?
This I agree with...it's absurd that the winner of a 3 minute skills competition gets the same amount of points as the winner of a 60 minute game.
So, you agree then? They're playing it safe now for the guaranteed point so it has no bearing on whether they'll play it safe if ties exist.
Leafidelity
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Hockey is a game of 5 players versus 5 players. A team sport. At every level of hockey the game ends with a team effort, and has for over 100 years. That is not hockey. The picture of the excited Florida fan doesn't surprise me at all because that is the shootouts target audience.
CaptainKishimoto
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I've never understood why people want ties. If you've ever been involved in any sort of competition, a resulting tie just makes everything seem meaningless.
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And yet I don't hear people talk about hating 4 on 4 overtime so much and I hear people saying they want 3 on 3 overtimes.
Ties suck you play the game to WIN
It is good to have shootout to eliminate ties and help grow the game.
I still like to WATCH shootouts. I just don't think they should be what determines a game after 5 minutes.
I hated ties after games and am not crazy about them in soccer. It's such a flat result. "yay? No one won..."
I'd like a change to be made to the OT session that makes a goal prior to shootouts more likely.
I hated ties after games and am not crazy about them in soccer. It's such a flat result. "yay? No one won..."
I'd like a change to be made to the OT session that makes a goal prior to shootouts more likely.
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I had a crazy thought. 5 minute 4 on 4. Slight break between then a 5 minute 3 on 3. If it's still not decided then a shootout.
Well of course you play to WIN, but you have to actually earn the win. IMO shootout wins are lesser wins. I'd love to see a system where the regulation wins are worth 3, shootout wins 2. I know it won't happen but it seems a lot more fair than the current system.
I'm not huge on the shootout but not entirely against it. The entertainment value is there but it seems kind of bush league as a ways of awarding points. I'm kind of meh on the whole thing but if the choices are ties or shootout wins=regulation wins, I'll choose ties every time. At least its an honest result. And yes, it is a result.
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Yes a change to the point system would be fine by me.
Before so many teams played for ties if the score was tied late you would get so many ties it was horrible.
tarheelhockey
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Point of order about the original article: I know it was a jokey comment about the Devils pulling the goalie in OT for a shot at winning 2 points, but that would never, ever happen. Maybe it's little-known because it would never happen, but any team pulling a goalie in OT will forfeit the so-called "loser point".
That said, I'm all for getting rid of the shootout. I also hate the asymmetry of some games doling out 3 points, while others give only 2. I'd like to slightly modify the way the AHL does it. Give 3-0 points in regulation. In overtime, give 2-1 points. Make overtime 7 minutes, with half-and-half of 4v4 and 3v3, switching formats at the first whistle after 3 minutes of play. If it's still tied, 1.5 points to everyone, and fans are welcome to come onto the ice to play tiddily winks if they like.
Of course, the shootout won't die. TJ Oshie got a huge endorsement deal from his "success" in Sochi - nevermind that it was a victory that, IIRC, would only have rejiggered standings slightly and didn't help the USA medal anyway. Casual fans understand exactly what's going on during shootouts. It makes great highlight reel shots that even ESPN will show. And weird stuff like WSH/FLA will happen that will generate coverage/interest.
That said, I'm all for getting rid of the shootout. I also hate the asymmetry of some games doling out 3 points, while others give only 2. I'd like to slightly modify the way the AHL does it. Give 3-0 points in regulation. In overtime, give 2-1 points. Make overtime 7 minutes, with half-and-half of 4v4 and 3v3, switching formats at the first whistle after 3 minutes of play. If it's still tied, 1.5 points to everyone, and fans are welcome to come onto the ice to play tiddily winks if they like.
Of course, the shootout won't die. TJ Oshie got a huge endorsement deal from his "success" in Sochi - nevermind that it was a victory that, IIRC, would only have rejiggered standings slightly and didn't help the USA medal anyway. Casual fans understand exactly what's going on during shootouts. It makes great highlight reel shots that even ESPN will show. And weird stuff like WSH/FLA will happen that will generate coverage/interest.
The Flyers just lost their 10th shootout in a row, dating back to last year. Almost positive we have by far the worst win percentage in the shootout since it's inception, too.
How do you think I feel about the shootout?
How do you think I feel about the shootout?
Johnny HFBOARDS
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yup hate it, don't even watch
I know, I know, you think it's because we have Pavs...but that's not it though, shoot outs suck.
I know, I know, you think it's because we have Pavs...but that's not it though, shoot outs suck.
Leafidelity
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Maybe football games should end with a field goal kicking contest. Basketball games could end in a game of horse.
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How often do NFL games fail to have a winner from OT?
IF NFL games had so many games going into overtime and not having a winner I think they would do a kickout because so many people hate seeing so many ties but because ties are very rare in the NFL they just allow ties.
Pure Slaughter Value
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No kidding, 32 teams have played 14 gms each and there's been 1 tie the whole year.
Tonight there were 3 NHL games that went into OT. Surprisingly 2 of them actually had a "real winner".
Well, everyone has their opinion but I had no problem with the 5 on 5 overtime, and if no one scored the game ended in a tie.
Don't like a manufactured 4 on 4, don't like a game decided by a shootout.
Don't like a manufactured 4 on 4, don't like a game decided by a shootout.
I'm a Devils fan, and I actually like them.
However, I do think they should extend OT someway either by going 3 on 3, or just making 4 on 4 longer.
Lord Moriarty007
Lets go Avs & Bolts!
I don't hate the shootout. But yea I'm tired of it. I want 3 on 3. That is way more entertaining.
Kane One
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They will go the NCAA route before a kickout.
I think they should replace OT with what NCAA football has, since NFL OT sucks.
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