Speculation: Hagel price tag

[LavalPhantom]

You aren't necessarily wrong, depends on the return.

Which is a concept that seems crazy hard to understand for some.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Which is a concept that seems crazy hard to understand for some.

It’s not hard to understand, people just don’t agree with you

 

[LavalPhantom]

It’s not hard to understand, people just don’t agree with you

Fair. I don’t get it but whatever. Anyway, I really like Hagel and certainly aren’t advocating on trading him. Just not crazy about the idea of letting the phone ring and not picking up.

 

[Clownish]

Fair. I don’t get it but whatever. Anyway, I really like Hagel and certainly aren’t advocating on trading him. Just not crazy about the idea of letting the phone ring and not picking up.

I don't think anyone is saying they should ignore offers, but the entire argument against your opinion is based on the reality that the prospects likely won't be anywhere near the level they should be to make an offer worth considering, yet round and round this discussion goes.

 

[Blackhawks]

You aren't necessarily wrong, depends on the return.

He’s spot on on everything minus his last two words but especially his first word.

 

[LavalPhantom]

I don't think anyone is saying they should ignore offers, but the entire argument against your opinion is based on the reality that the prospects likely won't be anywhere near the level they should be to make an offer worth considering, yet round and round this discussion goes.

Well when people say that trading him would be dumb, not considering what should be coming back if the Hawks did, that’s basically saying that they should not answer the phone.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Well when people say that trading him would be dumb, not considering what should be coming back if the Hawks did, that’s basically saying that they should not answer the phone.

No. We've been speculating about this for what, a week now? If the return is a late 1st and a very good prospect, it's debatable on whether or not that'd be worth trading Hagel. Pragmatically, realistically, it'd probably be dumb to trade him. If you think that's the equivalent of shutting down the conversation then that's on you homie

 

[LavalPhantom]

No. We've been speculating about this for what, a week now? If the return is a late 1st and a very good prospect, it's debatable on whether or not that'd be worth trading Hagel. Pragmatically, realistically, it'd probably be dumb to trade him. If you think that's the equivalent of shutting down the conversation then that's on you homie

Cool, we’re saying the same thing. Cheers!

 

[Toews2Bickell]

when you trade a guy like hagel for picks there is reinvestment risk...most picks do not become hagel type players and hes not a finished product on a steal of a contract...what is the rush to move him, you have to start to build a new leadership group at some point and him and cat are a start

 

[CallMeShaft]

He’s spot on on everything minus his last two words but especially his first word.

If you wanna call me a dumbass, don't beat around the bush with it.

 

[Vitto79]

This seems like a reasonable return, I also would be ok swapping Dylan Garand for Morgan Barron.

as a Rangers fan I was thinking a lot less
Like Georgiev and a 2nd

Take Lankinen and Carpenter off your hands
They don’t have much value

for a prospect someone like Ruenanen but I could see Kravtsov to a chicago

they may find a fit in between

 

[hawksrule]

as a Rangers fan I was thinking a lot less
Like Georgiev and a 2nd

Take Lankinen and Carpenter off your hands
They don’t have much value

for a prospect someone like Ruenanen but I could see Kravtsov to a chicago

they may find a fit in between

Even assuming you’re including a 1st as well, that offer is not at all interesting.

 

[Bubba88]

Can we just agree that we keep the 23 year old 20 goal scorer that is well liked and can be part of our future?

 

[Kevin Musto]

Can we just agree that we keep the 23 year old 20 goal scorer that is well liked and can be part of our future?

Not if someone overpays

 

[u2wojo]

I REALLY like Hagel....but if someone is willing to give a first (even one likely in the 20's as that is the reality of a TDL move with playoff teams) and a top prospect with some other lotto ticket prospect/pick, you do that all day long. The trick is defining what a "top prospect" is.

 

[TheDachKnight]

Not if someone overpays

Provided the overpay gets us a potentially elite/1st line/top pairing player, yes.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

I love him roasting Super Slow Subban Should retire.

 

[Drumman44]

Would Fleury, Hagel, and a small add be enough to get Newhook from Colorado?

 

[Putt Pirate]

Avs don’t want Fleury.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Would Fleury, Hagel, and a small add be enough to get Newhook from Colorado?

Can’t imagine they trade newhook at all. Probably second line center next year for them

 

[Drumman44]

Can’t imagine they trade newhook at all. Probably second line center next year for them

I also didn’t realize that they don’t really need a goalie so all in all a dumb idea sorry

 

[Mrfenn92]

I also didn’t realize that they don’t really need a goalie so all in all a dumb idea sorry

No reason to apologize

 

[Bubba88]

Not if someone overpays

What do you consider overpayment? A late 1st and Kravtsov?

No futures will be seen as overpayment. Getting a late 1st and late 2nd won't be overpayment.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Trading Hagel = Stupid.

Peoples' obsession with trading legitimate NHL players for picks that have a high likelihood of never becoming an NHL player, has always blown my mind.

 

[ChiHawk21]

Trading Hagel = Stupid.

Peoples' obsession with trading legitimate NHL players for picks that have a high likelihood of never becoming an NHL player, has always blown my mind.

remember when you said this about gus' when we were in no position to win?? if a player is playing above his head and you can get value for him and your not in a win now position take the value.