Prospect Info: Habs Rookie Camp (September 15-21) Roster & Games in OP

[HABitual Fan]

I have a few questions that I guess fits into this thread.

In the past, NCAA players unsigned were able to keep their eligibility as long as they paid their own way for development camp, training etc...

With the new rules allowing for NCAA athletes to be signed to personal endorsement deals, even by pro teams like the Florida Panthers did with the Miami QB, can an NHL team offer an endorsement deal to unsigned prospects they hold the NHL rights to?

As an example, can Montreal sign Sean Farrell to an endorsement deal that would allow him to pay for his trips to development camp, specialized coaches for things like skating, conditioning, nutritionists etc... while still maintaining his NCAA eligibility?

Also , why do hockey players maintain eligibility once drafted, and basketball and football players lose theirs?

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Sagikev]

I have a few questions that I guess fits into this thread.

In the past, NCAA players unsigned were able to keep their eligibility as long as they paid their own way for development camp, training etc...

With the new rules allowing for NCAA athletes to be signed to personal endorsement deals, even by pro teams like the Florida Panthers did with the Miami QB, can an NHL team offer an endorsement deal to unsigned prospects they hold the NHL rights to?

As an example, can Montreal sign Sean Farrell to an endorsement deal that would allow him to pay for his trips to development camp, specialized coaches for things like skating, conditioning, nutritionists etc... while still maintaining his NCAA eligibility?

Also , why do hockey players maintain eligibility once drafted, and basketball and football players lose theirs?

It depends on a bunch of stuff, like is the kid American or no (laws are different for immigrants), also the law depends on states, so some players from X state can get an endorsement deal, but players from Y state can't. I don't have any source, just going off what I heard lol

 

[montreal]

I have a few questions that I guess fits into this thread.

In the past, NCAA players unsigned were able to keep their eligibility as long as they paid their own way for development camp, training etc...

With the new rules allowing for NCAA athletes to be signed to personal endorsement deals, even by pro teams like the Florida Panthers did with the Miami QB, can an NHL team offer an endorsement deal to unsigned prospects they hold the NHL rights to?

As an example, can Montreal sign Sean Farrell to an endorsement deal that would allow him to pay for his trips to development camp, specialized coaches for things like skating, conditioning, nutritionists etc... while still maintaining his NCAA eligibility?

Also , why do hockey players maintain eligibility once drafted, and basketball and football players lose theirs?

ncaa rules are so stupid, there is a really good movie Without Limits (1998) about Steve Prefontaine and how he tried to take on the NCAA for some shady stuff they were doing by making money off them.

I don't know the new rule so I would have to look into it to say but would be surprised if it's something the Habs did.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Camp invite Charles-Antoine Pilote played last night in a preseason game. Moncton lost 7-4 to Halifax.

But Pilote finished the game with 3 pts (2G, 1A).

 

[ChesterNimitz]

What are the current flaws in Brook's defensive game? Hockey sense? Processing speed? Passing?

He was born a journeyman. A flaw for which there is known no cure or vaccine.

 

[habsprospects]

 

[Adam Michaels]

Just updated the OP to add him as an invitee.

Thanks

 

[Adam Michaels]

Rookie Camp will start in less than two weeks.

 

[Adam Michaels]

There are two rookie tournaments announced in other places in the league. Arizona the other day confirmed of a tournament that will include Arizona, Anaheim, LA, San Jose, Colorado, and Vegas.

And a few moments ago, Buffalo announced one that will be between the Sabres, Bruins, and Devils.

And Detroit announced a few weeks ago that they will have the Travers City Prospect Tournament that will have the Wings, Jackets, Stars, Blues, and Leafs.

In Habs' case, Bruce Garrioch reported last week that the Habs and Sens prospects will face each other in a home-and-away series. It doesn't look like any other team will be involved.

The last two Rookie Showcases had the Jets involved, as well. I don't know if they will be there this year. It might only be Habs and Sens this year.

 

[Adam Michaels]

We are no a week away from the start of Rookie Camp. We should be getting the roster at some point during the week. I know the Leafs announced their rookie camp roster yesterday.

And Sens just released their roster.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Bathurst confirms that Kidney will come to Montreal on Sunday.

 

[Adam Michaels]

So as Garrioch reported, Habs rookies will play Sens rookies in a home-and-home during camp. And it also seems they will play University of Ottawa, as well.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Roster for Rookie Camp

 

[Adam Michaels]

Only Vrbetic will be there from Habs goalie draftees.

- Primeau has graduated.
- Dobes is in the NCAA.
- Dichow is in Europe.

 

[Gabriel Sagala]

I hope the game will be televised

 

[Adam Michaels]

Habs draft picks taking part at rookie camp:

- 2018 -
Jesse Ylonen (2nd Round - 35th)
Cam Hillis (3rd Round - 66th)

- 2019 -
Mattias Norlinder (3rd Round - 64th)
Gianni Fairbrother (3rd Round - 77th)
Rafaël Harvey-Pinard (7th Round - 201st)

- 2020 -
Kaiden Guhle (1st Round - 16th)
Jan Mysak (2nd Round - 48th)

- 2021 -
Riley Kidney (2nd Round - 63rd)
William Trudeau (4th Round - 113)
Daniil Sobolev (5th Round - 142nd)
Joshua Roya (5th Round - 150th)
Xavier Simoneau (6th Round - 191st)
Joe Vrbetic (7th Round - 214th)



I'm curious why Khisamutdinov isn't listed.

 

[Miller Time]

Guhle, Mysak, Hillis and Roy are the players i'm most interested in seeing where they sit today...

Guhle, hopefully, will be dominant and look out of place by how much he dominates play in the dzone.

Mysak & Hillis are two guys with the m.o of having put in serious offseason work... will be interested to see if either show up to camp having clearly made a big jump.

Roy might be our biggest wild card in the prospect pool... the skill profile as he entered juniors was off the charts, he stumbled, but those early indications that he's matured leave at least some hope that he caught the bad habits early enough to perhaps get back on the elite prospect pathway.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

It always feels a bit empty without all the NCAA guys ( some of the euro league guys as well) but what are you gonna do I guess.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Guhle, Mysak, Hillis and Roy are the players i'm most interested in seeing where they sit today...

Guhle, hopefully, will be dominant and look out of place by how much he dominates play in the dzone.

Mysak & Hillis are two guys with the m.o of having put in serious offseason work... will be interested to see if either show up to camp having clearly made a big jump.

Roy might be our biggest wild card in the prospect pool... the skill profile as he entered juniors was off the charts, he stumbled, but those early indications that he's matured leave at least some hope that he caught the bad habits early enough to perhaps get back on the elite prospect pathway.

I'm looking forward to seeing Riley Kidney, too.

 

[Adam Michaels]

It always feels a bit empty without all the NCAA guys and some of the euro league guys but what are you gonna do I guess.

I agree. Although they never participate at rookie camp, only development camps. But this year, there wasn't one, so we missed out on all the NCAA and Euro guys.

At least we'll have Norlinder from the Euro guys to watch.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I agree. Although they never participate at rookie camp, only development camps. But this year, there wasn't one, so we missed out on all the NCAA and Euro guys.

At least we'll have Norlinder from the Euro guys to watch.

Norlinder and Guhle are there at least. Would have been fun to compare them with guys like Harris and Struble though. Would have really liked to see Farrell and Tuch in action too. No Mailloux on top of that, for obvious reasons. Oh well!

 

[WeThreeKings]

Let's see what Kidney does.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I don't think anyone has mentioned it, but Isiah Campbell has been invited to the Habs' camp. He wasn't reported on as an invite already in this thread. Forgive me if it was because I don't remember.

20 years old
6'4" and 216 lbs
Plays Center & Left Wing

Has played 4 seasons in the Q split between Saint John, Cape Breton, Drummondville, and last year was traded to Shawinigan.

His best season 2019-20, where he had 60 pts (26G, 34A) in 63 GP with Drummondville.

Last sesaon, split between Drummondville and Shawinigan, he had 17 pts (9G, 8A) in 29 GP.