Confirmed with Link: Gusev traded to Devils for picks 2020 3rd; 2021 2nd

[CupInSIX]

 

[IceNeophyte]

I'm not reading too much into this....Of course, if he can't see light at the end of the NHL tunnel, he needs to go back to KHL. A year off in pro sports can ruin a career.

 

[CupInSIX]

I'm not reading too much into this....Of course, if he can't see light at the end of the NHL tunnel, he needs to go back to KHL. A year off in pro sports can ruin a career.

I'm starting to think Gusev will actually cave and sign for 2m. He's potentially leaving a lot of money on the table by not coming over to prove himself.

 

[IceNeophyte]

I'm starting to think Gusev will actually cave and sign for 2m. He's potentially leaving a lot of money on the table by not coming over to prove himself.

At this point, even if he signs for $2M, it's looking like we need to shed one more salary.

 

[CupInSIX]

At this point, even if he signs for $2M, it's looking like we need to shed one more salary.

They could either waive Holden to bury 1.075m of his 2.2m and have a 22 man roster
or trade him

 

[IceNeophyte]

They could either waive Holden to bury 1.075m of his 2.2m and have a 22 man roster
or trade him

I'd give up a 3rd to offload him. That's probably why I'm not a GM

 

[willy702]

They could either waive Holden to bury 1.075m of his 2.2m and have a 22 man roster
or trade him

Or as Sinbin Ken pointed out, they could put him on LTIR if he's willing to play along and there's $2.2m to use.

 

[CupInSIX]

Or as Sinbin Ken pointed out, they could put him on LTIR if he's willing to play along and there's $2.2m to use.

Ken comes up with some pretty ridiculous stuff from time to time. If they even thought about doing that, he should file a grievance with the NHLPA and have his agent put them on blast. You don't put a 32yo player without injury history on 'Robidas island'.

 

[Brazen331]

I'd give up a 3rd to offload him. That's probably why I'm not a GM

Would not be a bad move at all. Draft picks are assets, that's why you try to acquire as many as possible. Moving salary for a contending team is every bit as valuable as prospect with 50/50 or less than that prospects of making the NHL.

I got a feeling they are going to work something out with Gusev. Vegas burned his ELC scratching his back so he needs to return the favor. Vegas should offer him a little bit more on a 2-year deal. He will be squarely in his prime when he turns UFA and can cash in big then if he proves himself.

 

[IceNeophyte]

Or as Sinbin Ken pointed out, they could put him on LTIR if he's willing to play along and there's $2.2m to use.

There's a guy whose takes I don't miss a bit.

 

[McCombo]

Of course you would like to keep Gusev, but if a trade happens how you would feel about Puljujärvi + 2nd rd pick as a return?

 

[IceNeophyte]

Of course you would like to keep Gusev, but if a trade happens how you would feel about Puljujärvi + 2nd rd pick as a return?

I'm not interested in Pulj at all.

 

[Kshahdoo]

I'm starting to think Gusev will actually cave and sign for 2m. He's potentially leaving a lot of money on the table by not coming over to prove himself.

What money? He'll get probably around 3M euro in the KHL with 13% taxation (so the same $4M, he asks for) and then come next year as UFA.

 

[theslatcher]

What money? He'll get probably around 3M euro in the KHL with 13% taxation (so the same $4M, he asks for) and then come next year as UFA.

Nevermind the money bit which I think he wouldn't get if looking at salaries this past season, I doubt Ska would agree on a 1 year contract.

 

[Vegan Knight]

What money? He'll get probably around 3M euro in the KHL with 13% taxation (so the same $4M, he asks for) and then come next year as UFA.

He has to play for Vegas or be traded by Vegas to ever play in the NHL. No leverage for him.

 

[Kshahdoo]

He has to play for Vegas or be traded by Vegas to ever play in the NHL. No leverage for him.

It's for the coming season. He's UFA next year as he'll be 28.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Nevermind the money bit which I think he wouldn't get if looking at salaries this past season, I doubt Ska would agree on a 1 year contract.

He played for pretty small money, while SKA paid a lot to Datsyuk and Kovi, and Gusev was a superior player, than both of them. So SKA owns him kinda a moral debt, and they will pay, especially considering it's the last season with soft salary cap.

 

[Vegan Knight]

It's for the coming season. He's UFA next year as he'll be 28.

He hasn't played an NHL game and there is no KHL agreement so he is still tied to the team even after that.

 

[Brazen331]

He played for pretty small money, while SKA paid a lot to Datsyuk and Kovi, and Gusev was a superior player, than both of them. So SKA owns him kinda a moral debt, and they will pay, especially considering it's the last season with soft salary cap.

You are just obsessed with the notion that Gusev cannot sign with Vegas. Sorry to disappoint you dude, but Vegas has all the leverage.

He also does want to play here. Chances are, he will suit up for Vegas this year.

 

[theslatcher]

He hasn't played an NHL game and there is no KHL agreement so he is still tied to the team even after that.

He has signed an ELC, so he'll be a UFA in 1 year if he goes back to the K.

The ELC has come back to bite both parties involved.

Not that I think he'll go back to Europe, would be most puzzling move in this whole ordeal.

 

[Vegan Knight]

He has signed an ELC, so he'll be a UFA in 1 year if he goes back to the K.

The ELC has come back to bite both parties involved.

Not that I think he'll go back to Europe, would be most puzzling move in this whole ordeal.

He is an RFA and Vegas has qualified him (without him playing a game ever in the NHL), without an agreement with the KHL, Vegas owns his rights if he ever wants to come back, is what I have been told. It isn't the same as a college FA or a player from a league with an agreement with the NHL.

 

[theslatcher]

He is an RFA and Vegas has qualified him (without him playing a game ever in the NHL), without an agreement with the KHL, Vegas owns his rights if he ever wants to come back, is what I have been told. It isn't the same as a college FA or a player from a league with an agreement with the NHL.

That'd be the case if he had never signed an ELC.

 

[CupInSIX]

I'm starting to think he'll take that 2m offer. Just because his Russian agent is bluffing about going back to the KHL, doesn't mean he would or that his NA agent is saying the same thing.

 

[theslatcher]

I'm starting to think he'll take that 2m offer. Just because his Russian agent is bluffing about going back to the KHL, doesn't mean he would or that his NA agent is saying the same thing.

We can meet in the middle at 3m. If he really wants 4m then he'll most likely have to wait until start of the season to see if Glass is ready for 3C duty by then, alternatively if somebody like Roy is ready to replace Reaves.

 

[CupInSIX]

We can meet in the middle at 3m. If he really wants 4m then he'll most likely have to wait until start of the season to see if Glass is ready for 3C duty by then, alternatively if somebody like Roy is ready to replace Reaves.

KHL season starts earlier than NHL so I would imagine this will come to a head in the next 2-3 weeks.