Value of: Grubauer to Buffalo/NYI

[BelovedIsles]

Why do folks think the Caps are interested in trading their good players for futures?

Just playing w the idea. The original rationale was to clear space to re-sign Carlson.

Why do people get so f***ing defensive about trade banter that isn’t going to happen any way. Always amazes me.

 

[peterthegreat12]

Just playing w the idea. The original rationale was to clear space to re-sign Carlson.

Why do people get so ****ing defensive about trade banter that isn’t going to happen any way. Always amazes me.

I don't think I'm being defensive. LMAO

I just don't see the logic. There is a difference.

 

[StephenPeat]

Just playing w the idea. The original rationale was to clear space to re-sign Carlson.

Why do people get so ****ing defensive about trade banter that isn’t going to happen any way. Always amazes me.

No I see where you’re coming from and I have no problem with your inquiries, Niskanen would be a great fit for exactly what the Isles need. Unfortunately the Caps also need him and most non-Caps fans don’t understand that he has been understatedly fantastic for us since we signed him. Combined with his extremely reasonable contract, he’s a keeper and, as Peter^ said a few posts before, the Caps probably aren’t looking to trade from their core for futures right now.

 

[BelovedIsles]

No I see where you’re coming from and I have no problem with your inquiries, Niskanen would be a great fit for exactly what the Isles need. Unfortunately the Caps also need him and most non-Caps fans don’t understand that he has been understatedly fantastic for us since we signed him. Combined with his extremely reasonable contract, he’s a keeper and, as Peter^ said a few posts before, the Caps probably aren’t looking to trade from their core for futures right now.

Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense, losing him would make you paper thin on the blueline.

Still interested in Grub, just not sure of his starter potential.

 

[justafan22]

I don't think I'm being defensive. LMAO

I just don't see the logic. There is a difference.

Grubauer is likely to walk as UFA so get value while you can.

 

[peterthegreat12]

Grubauer is likely to walk as UFA so get value while you can.

Agreed but they aren't going to just give him away, certainly not to a division rival.

 

[StephenPeat]

Grubauer is likely to walk as UFA so get value while you can.

NO Try Again. He’s an arbitration-eligible RFA. At this point the Caps have nearly as much say in where he plays as he himself does.

 

[Isles72]

Just playing w the idea. The original rationale was to clear space to re-sign Carlson.

Why do people get so ****ing defensive about trade banter that isn’t going to happen any way. Always amazes me.

my fav line so far , ''its not like they have to trade him''

its just a bloody trade conversation about Grubs and now your taking him off the table lol !

anyways - if the caps can move orpik (1 year left @ 5.5 )it probably gives them the extra salary flex to keep wilson,carlson and offer Grubauer a decent 1 year deal before he hits free agency / keep him as insurance for Holts

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Sabres 2018 2nd + Sabres 2019 2nd
for
Grubauer and Florida 2018 2nd

You get a 2nd rounder upgrade this year by 14 spots and 2019 2nd to give us Grubauer. Think it's fair value on bith sides if you are interested in picks.

 

[IODCPiper]

The Caps would not want Leddy in this scenario. We don’t need and won’t have room for his Cap Hit and if we’re trading Grubauer it’s likely we’ve resigned Carlson.

Leddy plus for gru? Lol

 

[peterthegreat12]

Leddy plus for gru? Lol

No thanks. Caps want cap room and thus don’t want any one-way contracts back.

 

[StephenPeat]

No thanks. Caps want cap room and thus don’t want any one-way contracts back.

Also we have our own Blackhawks cast-off that I'd rather re-sign and play in our Top 4 (especially considering his likely contract) than Leddy. But yes ultimately Leddy+ for Grubauer is laughable for NYI.

 

[justafan22]

NO Try Again. He’s an arbitration-eligible RFA. At this point the Caps have nearly as much say in where he plays as he himself does.

I meant to say he's going to be UFA next year unless he signs more than a 1 year deal which I'd be shocked.

 

[hb12xchamps]

Sabres 2018 2nd + Sabres 2019 2nd
for
Grubauer and Florida 2018 2nd

You get a 2nd rounder upgrade this year by 14 spots and 2019 2nd to give us Grubauer. Think it's fair value on bith sides if you are interested in picks.

I'd say take out the Florida 2nd and the Caps probably trade Grubauer to Buffalo. Two 2nd rounders would be good value if a team isn't willing to dish out a 1st. I still think someone is willing to part with a later 1st rounder for him though. His numbers have been great

 

[BelovedIsles]

my fav line so far , ''its not like they have to trade him''

its just a bloody trade conversation about Grubs and now your taking him off the table lol !

anyways - if the caps can move orpik (1 year left @ 5.5 )it probably gives them the extra salary flex to keep wilson,carlson and offer Grubauer a decent 1 year deal before he hits free agency / keep him as insurance for Holts

My fav is posters staunchly rejecting trades as if they are the GM of the teams they speak for. This is an internet message board, most of this trade stuff is fantasy anyway; fun conjecture among fans.

Grubs is still in play I would think.

 

[Orvald]

Don't know Buffalo seems to be going for Ullmark in net next year.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

What's the value here? These are the only two places that either have a hole at 1G or don't trust anyone else in the system to be a #1 goalie next season. Detroit isn't a fit due to Howard's contract. Could the Islanders be the fit here since Lou loves solving goalie issues (Schneider/Andersen)?

Could a early 2nd + good prospect from Buffalo or 1st rounder from Calgary be the right fit here?

Lou Lamoriello once traded a 9th overall for Corey Schneider.

Does anyone seriously think Grubauer holds the level of prospect status that Schneider did at the point in time he was acquired?

In addition, the Devils at that time had nothing in their system like Soderstrom on the prospect front, much less Sorokin.

I would hope Lou has another plan for solving the NYI goaltending equation.

JMHO...

 

[Efactor]

NO Try Again. He’s an arbitration-eligible RFA. At this point the Caps have nearly as much say in where he plays as he himself does.

There are plenty of teams in Europe that would pay him several million to be their goalie. He won't sign with the Caps again to be a backup for low money. A trade this offseason WILL happen.

 

[boredmale]

There are plenty of teams in Europe that would pay him several million to be their goalie. He won't sign with the Caps again to be a backup for low money. A trade this offseason WILL happen.

He could just stick it to the Caps and accept his Qualifying offer, if he goes to arbitration their is a chance they force him to take a 2 year deal

 

[WeDislikeEich]

I can't imagine the Sabres giving up another high pick for a goalie right now.

They just recently spent a #21 pick in a deep 2015 draft on a goalie. Most Sabres fans still have a bad taste in our mouths from that trade, so I don't see many agreeing to this trade.


Plus, Buffalo spent a high 2nd drafting a goalie just last year.


And Jason Botterill seems kinda high on Linus Ullmark. He already said that Ullmark will be one of Buffalo's 2 goalies and will "absolutely get the opportunity to compete for the starting job next year".

 

[boredmale]

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...e-Tkachuk-Isles-Goalie-Trade-Buzzcast/1/93194

Isles could move BOTH first rounders for a Goalie...Corey Schneider?

Lou did it before and he may be part of it again...I am told the the Isles are looking to grab their bonafide starter with "either 1 or both of their first rounders." One source just texted me, after we completed our podcast, "Schneider is definitely on the radar."

 

[SI90]

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...e-Tkachuk-Isles-Goalie-Trade-Buzzcast/1/93194

They better not trade 2 firsts for a goalie. That’s insane.

 

[boredmale]

They better not trade 2 firsts for a goalie. That’s insane.

Yeah I have to agree, better be one of the best goalies in the league on a fair contract for both.

All that being said Schneider for 12th(+ Greiss) would be fair

 

[SI90]

Yeah I have to agree, better be one of the best goalies in the league on a fair contract for both.

All that being said Schneider for 12th(+ Greiss) would be fair

I’d do that. A lot of people seem down on Schneider because of his health but he’s a legit starter and not at a terrible age.

 

[BringBackLibertys]

Yeah I have to agree, better be one of the best goalies in the league on a fair contract for both.

All that being said Schneider for 12th(+ Greiss) would be fair

Cory has a no trade clause on one of the up and coming teams in the Metro that plays the way the game needs to be played to win right now (fast all day long). Why would he wave to go to a team that may or may not be as good as the Devils next year?