Rumor: Greg Pateryn is available

[Nucker101]

Bruins will take him. His wife seems to dislike the Habs just as much as the Bruins do.

I immediately had this same thought lol

 

[Jared Dunn]

He's a RD, and I would still rather keep the assets for Hunwick.

I'd take Marincin or even Marchenko if you want to do the RD/RD thing over paying any assets for Pateryn. Trade Hunwick for the 3rd or whatever he can get, do the same with Polak, and just use Marincin and Marchenko as your third pairing. Simple as that. You gain assets and cap space, and the bottom pairing is still pretty damn good.

For some reason there is some sort of bias against them that makes them seem a lot worse than they actually are.

Marincin is terrible at hockey, that might have something to do with the bias. Marchenko I can't comment on but I do hope he gets a chance to play soon

 

[GREMLIN]

I will eat my shoe if he becomes a top 4 d man. If he were as good as you say, even if Montreal's talent assessment is that bad I'm sure another organization would have taken note of his skill and taken a flyer on him...

Saying he has top 4 potential and saying he will be a top 4 dmen are two really different things.

Examples?

They played DD as their #1 center for a long time, played Flynn, Mitchell, Weise in top 6 roles, thought Shaw would be a difference maker for this team, JDLR over a ton of more deserving guys...

 

[General Fanager]

Pateryn + 2nd for Hanzal

 

[Blue Goose]

Probably worth a forward in the same situation as him?

Do STL need a D?

Pateryn for Yak

Blues have too much RD as it is, and they already have a Pateryn-esque player in Bortuzzo.

I wonder if the Kings would be interested. With Greene on IR and Gilbert out via trade, could they use the RD depth? Plus, Pateryn's wife is from Orange County.

The question is: what does MTL want in return? A roster player, a minor leaguer or a draft pick?

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I'd take him as a #6 #7 guy with the Pens. A good extra body to have come playoff time.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Pateryn + 2nd for Hanzal

It was rumored the yotes wanted McCaron and a 1st for Hanzal, you counter with Pateryn and a 2nd?

Pretty sure that doesn't get you Hanzal, some team will overpay for him

 

[CanadienShark]

I'm not surprised at all given how they've handled him, but I don't see why they'd move him. He's a great #6 d-man. Especially behind two very good RHD in Weber and Petry. That's a rock solid right side.

Habs need to work with:

XXXX - Weber
Beaulieu - Petry
Nesterov - Pateryn


Work in Juulsen and push Nesterov/Pateryn down to the #7D spot. Sergachev ought to take the top LHD spot sooner than later. Emelin/Markov in the meantime. Really, I'm thinking the Habs are fine. #wayofftopic

 

[General Fanager]

It was rumored the yotes wanted McCaron and a 1st for Hanzal, you counter with Pateryn and a 2nd?

Pretty sure that doesn't get you Hanzal, some team will overpay for him

I agree, but thats what I would pay for him. McCaron and a 1st is outrageous.

 

[General Fanager]

I'm not surprised at all given how they've handled him, but I don't see why they'd move him. He's a great #6 d-man. Especially behind two very good RHD in Weber and Petry. That's a rock solid right side.

Habs dont like it when the wives get involved. Just ask Louis Leblanc

 

[playasRus]

I agree, but thats what I would pay for him. McCaron and a 1st is outrageous.

Meet halfway?

Pateryn and a 1st

 

[General Fanager]

Meet halfway?

Pateryn and a 1st

Pateryn and a 2nd and a 3rd lol

 

[Jared Dunn]

Saying he has top 4 potential and saying he will be a top 4 dmen are two really different things.

My point is saying a 26 year who has never even been a full time NHLer has top 4 potential is a HELL of a stretch.

 

[Agalloch]

Pateryn for Streit.

 

[General Fanager]

My point is saying a 26 year who has never even been a full time NHLer has top 4 potential is a HELL of a stretch.

Personally I wouldnt say top 4 but he will be a good 5-6 guy. Assuming he gets the chance

 

[hockeyheadlines]

It was rumored the yotes wanted McCaron and a 1st for Hanzal, you counter with Pateryn and a 2nd?

Pretty sure that doesn't get you Hanzal, some team will overpay for him

What they want and what they get, are two different things. I wanted a T-Bone steak, I got a hamburger.

Bet you he's injured before trade deadline next week.

 

[GREMLIN]

All I'm saying is saying a 26 year who has never even been a full time NHLer has top 4 potential is a HELL of a stretch.

Yeah, it absolutely is from an outsider's perspective but when you actually follow the team and know that he's excellent defensively, physical, has a booming shot and got an unfair treatment for the most part of the last 2 years which hampered his learning curve, it's not that huge a stretch.

 

[CapSpace]

How about BargainBin stealing from Benning again ?

Pateryn + DD + one of Hudon or Scherbak + some pick / Hutton + Jansen

 

[CanadienShark]

Meet halfway?

Pateryn and a 1st

Unless they think Pateryn has negative value, I doubt that works. Honestly I don't think Hanzal is worth a 1st, but some team might go for it.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Trade ya Jokipakka for him.

 

[Pyrophorus]

He was our pick, and we need someone like him back.

I"d give Marc a call for sure.

 

[Draft Dynasty]

Pateryn and Beaulieu where extremely good in pre season together.. DOnt know what they are waiting for.

Stupid to trade him now when is at an alltime low in value.. Think he could be a solid number 5.. He just need coaches confidence.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

They played DD as their #1 center for a long time, played Flynn, Mitchell, Weise in top 6 roles, thought Shaw would be a difference maker for this team, JDLR over a ton of more deserving guys...

How does playing DD as the #1 center implies that the habs are not good at assessing talent?
And Flynn, Mitchell, DLR almost never played in a top 6 role...

Weise played in the top because we lacked top 6 players. And the season he played in the top 6, he scored 14 goals in 56 games. Before joining the habs, he was regarded as a 4th liner. After playing for the habs, he was regarded as a good 3rd liner.
If anything this says that they know who has talent.

Shaw was never brought in to be a difference maker... Except maybe for the playoffs.
He also only played 45 games with the habs...

 

[Mark Kandy]

It was rumored the yotes wanted McCaron and a 1st for Hanzal, you counter with Pateryn and a 2nd?

Pretty sure that doesn't get you Hanzal, some team will overpay for him

What you wanna get and what you're gonna get is two totally different things.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

If MTL trade him, their depth at D in case of injury would be very bad, doesn't make much sense.