Not surprised at all tbh. There was never much of an incentive for gamers to get one.
Stadia a miserable failure? Shocker...
Inbefore 18leafsfan18 praises it.
Lol.
But to be fair, I get it. I completely disagree with him on everything regarding Stadia, but I get it. We all have things that we have been extremely passionate and defensive about, only for it to completely bust. The key is to know when to let go.
Stadia marketed PERFECTLY to me. I don't have a console but I used to be a big-time gamer. Kept my PC up-to-date as long as I could, but unfortunately, I would've had to dish away $500 to be able to play BL3. To me, it was simple math. And on my 120 Mbps connection in Montreal, the service runs flawlessly. In the meantime, I got FF to keep me going (using my Google Play credits) until Cyberpunk comes out. It's an epic win for me. As a 33 year old, there's no way I can justify spending $500+ on a console, nor do I have any interest in doing so.
For my needs, Stadia gets a A.
Stadia a miserable failure? Shocker...
Forgive my ignorance, but don't all new generation consoles also force you to pay to access online service? Also, I can pay with Google Play credits, which I get by doing Google Play Rewards for free.Simple math works in Stadia's favor over the short term, but not the long term. At $10/month, Stadia will have cost you $500 after just 4 years. Buying a new console every generation (~6 years) is actually cheaper than paying for Stadia indefinitely (i.e. 6 years of a console = $500, 6 years of Stadia = $720) and you don't have to pay again to keep playing your old games. It's the age-old question of renting versus investing. Renting is always cheaper in the short term and more expensive in the long term. For users planning to use Stadia for only a year or two, it may make sense, but for users looking at it long-term, it shouldn't be hard to justify paying for a console upfront, instead. Now, whether a person can afford to do so is another matter.
Forgive my ignorance, but don't all new generation consoles also force you to pay to access online service? Also, I can pay with Google Play credits, which I get by doing Google Play Rewards for free.
EDIT: I just checked, it's $60 for Xbox and $50 for PlayStation. So your math doesn't totally work out. Stadia still remains cheaper over the long-run, and once you've purchased your new console in six years, Stadia is the clear victor. Obviously it has to last that long, but if it does, there should theoretically never be a reason to upgrade.
Forgive my ignorance, but don't all new generation consoles also force you to pay to access online service? Also, I can pay with Google Play credits, which I get by doing Google Play Rewards for free.
EDIT: I just checked, it's $60 for Xbox and $50 for PlayStation. So your math doesn't totally work out. Stadia still remains cheaper over the long-run, and once you've purchased your new console in six years, Stadia is the clear victor. Obviously it has to last that long, but if it does, there should theoretically never be a reason to upgrade.
So most hardcore gamers will buy Google Play gift cards when on saleMost hardcore gamers get those at much cheaper prices via online stores.
Not quite sure what you mean by not caring the quality of them?Long term something like a Game Pass subscription will easily dwarf a Stadia subscription in terms of value. You instantly get access to more free games than Stadia has on its entire service (with the added bonus of them looking and playing better than they would on Stadia.)
So, again, the ideal use case for Stadia still seems to be people who want to play a couple of games once in a while and don't care about the quality of them.
Not quite sure what you mean by not caring the quality of them?
See, that's the thing, with my 120 Mbps connection wired directly into the CCU, there is no input delay or worse visual quality. It's excellent. I got through all of BL3 without a single hiccup.Input delay and worse visual quality. Also selection in general, depending on how much developer support it ends up getting at this point.
See, that's the thing, with my 120 Mbps connection wired directly into the CCU, there is no input delay or worse visual quality. It's excellent. I got through all of BL3 without a single hiccup.
Game selection is a different story, but for now I'm satisfied because I don't spend 40 hours a week gaming as I'm 33 with a 3 year-old child.
Both issues vary from game to game but are still issues nonetheless for those who care.
Every reported measurement of Stadia has shown at best an 40ms of extra input delay, so imo that automatically rules out playing any multiplayer games for me as long as better alternatives exist. On the visual side there are prevalent accounts of some minor artifacting, and some games just straight-up have graphical options stripped out of them. Destiny 2 in particular definitely doesn't look as good as a non-streamed PC version and has no settings available to tweak at all.
I've always had a hard time fathoming this as a problem as I don't really play multiplayer games anymore but during some formative gaming years in high school I do remember playing games such as Quake 3 with like 250ms ping times.
I've always had a hard time fathoming this as a problem as I don't really play multiplayer games anymore but during some formative gaming years in high school I do remember playing games such as Quake 3 with like 250ms ping times.
Stadia marketed PERFECTLY to me. I don't have a console but I used to be a big-time gamer. Kept my PC up-to-date as long as I could, but unfortunately, I would've had to dish away $500 to be able to play BL3. To me, it was simple math. And on my 120 Mbps connection in Montreal, the service runs flawlessly. In the meantime, I got FF to keep me going (using my Google Play credits) until Cyberpunk comes out. It's an epic win for me. As a 33 year old, there's no way I can justify spending $500+ on a console, nor do I have any interest in doing so.
For my needs, Stadia gets a A.
Forgive my ignorance, but don't all new generation consoles also force you to pay to access online service? Also, I can pay with Google Play credits, which I get by doing Google Play Rewards for free.
EDIT: I just checked, it's $60 for Xbox and $50 for PlayStation. So your math doesn't totally work out. Stadia still remains cheaper over the long-run, and once you've purchased your new console in six years, Stadia is the clear victor. Obviously it has to last that long, but if it does, there should theoretically never be a reason to upgrade.
I played Quake 3 competitively and there was a noticeable difference between an average 40-50 server ping and a 0-10 ping on LAN.
Something else to keep in mind with games now is that there's a cumulative effect going on. A lot of modern displays have input delay, wireless peripherals have input delay, being connected to a server or another player has input delay. Destiny 2 isn't as precise of a game as Quake 3, but it's already at ~80 frames of delay locally compared to ~160 streamed on Stadia. Again, depends on the game and depends on the person, but more people will notice the higher the number goes. Stadia was being pitched to the sort of crowd that tore Street Fighter V apart when it launched with 8 frames (8/60ths of a second) of local input delay. I'm not surprised that those people don't seem interested.
Lack of players on the platform will also probably compound the issue as well, depending on what happens with cross-play. At the moment if you wanna play MK11 or Destiny 2 or Samsho you have to play it against other Stadia players, of which there probably aren't many who are close to you, so your ping is gonna suck even before considering any streaming latency.
I say this half jokingly but I've always had the suspicion that a lot of this performance talk from gamers is akin to pretentious New York art snob-types bs'ing about fine art. Maybe I'm just a dullard for these things since I primarily play single player games on outdated hardware (finally built a new PC last year though to catch up a bit) but I'll never not be at least a little skeptical and suspicious.