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OV is undoubtedly the most exciting forward in the game. But he has a bit of a problem in playoff series in that it's really not hard to predict when the puck is going to go to him and what he's going to do with it. When he's open, his line mates are going to look for him and get the puck to him, almost always. When he's got the puck, he's going to shoot it quickly, almost always.

He's so ridiculously good at shooting from almost anywhere that it manages to work an awful lot despite being predictable, but when one team can plan for him over a handful of consecutive games, it seems like they can find ways to slow him down and notice the times that they can cheat over to him or ignore his teammates because they're obviously going to him. I guess that's really the burden that any player who is head and shoulders above his team and or the league has to deal with, but it seems all the more obvious with OV than many others.
 

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haveandare said:
OV is undoubtedly the most exciting forward in the game. But he has a bit of a problem in playoff series in that it's really not hard to predict when the puck is going to go to him and what he's going to do with it. When he's open, his line mates are going to look for him and get the puck to him, almost always. When he's got the puck, he's going to shoot it quickly, almost always.

He's so ridiculously good at shooting from almost anywhere that it manages to work an awful lot despite being predictable, but when one team can plan for him over a handful of consecutive games, it seems like they can find ways to slow him down and notice the times that they can cheat over to him or ignore his teammates because they're obviously going to him. I guess that's really the burden that any player who is head and shoulders above his team and or the league has to deal with, but it seems all the more obvious with OV than many others.
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And that predictability comes from bad team strategy. How can they only have 1 main play on the PP? It's all about feeding Ovechkin that offside one-timer. That's it. Better coaching would at least 2-3 alternate locations for him to shoot from. Or a fake one timer and pass to Kuznetsov for a tap in.

It's really not that hard. It's a ****ing pain in the ass to see Girardi keep sticking out his stick and the puck going into the crowd.
 
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illpucks said:
And that predictability comes from bad team strategy. How can they only have 1 main play on the PP? It's all about feeding Ovechkin that offside one-timer. That's it. Better coaching would at least 2-3 alternate locations for him to shoot from. Or a fake one timer and pass to Kuznetsov for a tap in.

It's really not that hard. It's a ****ing pain in the ass to see Girardi keep sticking out his stick and the puck going into the crowd.
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You're wrong.

OV may be predictable, but our PP is NOT. It is one of the most dynamic power-play's in the league. This isn't 2008 or whatever.

-Ward/Brouwer are a threat from the slot (14 pp goals between them in regular season).
-Carlson/Green shot from the point (4 pp goals)
-Backstrom/Kuznetsov/Burakovsky from halfwall, all 3 of them can shoot (9 pp goals)
-Johansson started driving to the net this year and got 3 goals on the pp

When the Caps pp is on its game it is a thing of beauty.

Our playoff power play numbers are pedestrian because we have been struggling to set it up and Lundqvist is an excellent goalie. And most importantly- sample size, sample size, sample size.

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Also- not all of Ovechkin's power play goals are one-timers. Maybe a little more than half I'd guess.
 
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illpucks said:
And that predictability comes from bad team strategy. How can they only have 1 main play on the PP? It's all about feeding Ovechkin that offside one-timer. That's it. Better coaching would at least 2-3 alternate locations for him to shoot from. Or a fake one timer and pass to Kuznetsov for a tap in.

It's really not that hard. It's a ****ing pain in the ass to see Girardi keep sticking out his stick and the puck going into the crowd.
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Oh yea, and here is that fake shot tap in you are talking about

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Alexander the Gr8

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apollo71426 said:
You're wrong.

OV may be predictable, but our PP is NOT. It is one of the most dynamic power-play's in the league. This isn't 2008 or whatever.

-Ward/Brouwer are a threat from the slot (14 pp goals between them in regular season).
-Carlson/Green shot from the point (4 pp goals)
-Backstrom/Kuznetsov/Burakovsky from halfwall, all 3 of them can shoot (9 pp goals)
-Johansson started driving to the net this year and got 3 goals on the pp

When the Caps pp is on its game it is a thing of beauty.

Our playoff power play numbers are pedestrian because we have been struggling to set it up and Lundqvist is an excellent goalie. And most importantly- sample size, sample size, sample size.

Also- not all of Ovechkin's power play goals are one-timers. Maybe a little more than half I'd guess.
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That was in the regular season. It doesn't work anymore. The last PP goal by Ovi was the rocket wrist shot in game 1 on the rush. The last time he connected on his famous one timer was the last game of the season, against Lundqvist and the Rangers.

Lundqvist cheats towards Ovi on the PP because he knows that if he starts hugging his left post, there is no way he's coming back in time to stop the shot.

Now, Carlson and Green can't get their shot through, Mojo and Brouwer are not a threat from where they are and Backstrom needs to get his head out of his ***. I was thinking of promoting both Kuznetsov and Burakovsky to the PP1. We need more guys who can shoot when Ovi is not available.

If we were to keep the same players, maybe alter the setup to have Brouwer on the left side down low to get another cross ice option.
 

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This is the way to capitalize on the PP vs NYR.



Washington was having PP trouble vs NYI and then this.

Everyone knows that Ovechkin is taking the shot. You have to shake the other team by having the passer shoot.

But Backstrom has been invisible this series aside from a few nice hits. Hope he wakes up for Game 7.
 
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OV stats suck as of late because they play the Rangers every fricken year, his stats vs everyone else are amazing
 

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illpucks said:
This is the way to capitalize on the PP vs NYR.

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Hope they play terrible defense?

I mean I know what you're trying to get at but it's just plain bad defense and penalty killing to let a guy walk all the way into the slot and just keep backing up towards your goaltender so not only are you allowing the shot but screening your goalie. The Rangers generally play that a lot better and are pretty good at forcing teams to dump the puck in on the power play rather than carry it over the line
 

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illpucks said:
This is the way to capitalize on the PP vs NYR.



Washington was having PP trouble vs NYI and then this.

Everyone knows that Ovechkin is taking the shot. You have to shake the other team by having the passer shoot.

But Backstrom has been invisible this series aside from a few nice hits. Hope he wakes up for Game 7.
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That was one of the worst defensive plays of the year. I'd love if that was the Caps' renewed PP strategy.
 

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Ovie is GOAT but his team is not. Ovie>Crosby
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lol. Caps fans always get so insecure when Ovie fails that they have to bring up Crosby, even though he has nothing to do with Ovie and the Caps YET AGAIN blowing a big series lead in the playoffs.
 
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Tuomaz said:
Ovie is GOAT but his team is not. Ovie>Crosby
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On the whole I would say the Capitals team really supported Ovechkin these playoffs. Great defense and plenty of secondary scorers stepping up. He also had some #1 seed teams in the past. Whatever the reason they cannot get it done, but it is too simplistic to lay the blame on his team mates.
 
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On the whole I would say the Capitals team really supported Ovechkin these playoffs. Great defense and plenty of secondary scorers stepping up. He also had some #1 seed teams in the past. Whatever the reason they cannot get it done, but it is too simplistic to lay the blame on his team mates.
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Not a caps fan and doesn't watch their games outside playoffs but it seems he doesn't get much help from his teammates, atleast not the same way Kane is getting for example.
 

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Frank the Tank said:
On the whole I would say the Capitals team really supported Ovechkin these playoffs. Great defense and plenty of secondary scorers stepping up. He also had some #1 seed teams in the past. Whatever the reason they cannot get it done, but it is too simplistic to lay the blame on his team mates.
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Because the Rangers are still the Cup Finalist from last season. How did they make Round 3 last year? Overcoming 3-1.

I think the Caps could have beaten the Habs and advanced to Round 3.
 
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