GM Game 5 Discussion Thread

[Peter Griffin]

Why do you think David Pastrnak only signed for $6.8m in Boston? A team's internal cap situation matters.

Boston is a perennial contender, Detroit hasn’t been good in five years and is coming off a dreadful season. Apples to oranges.

 

[hockeynorth]

Why. Can't. We. Just. Have. Fun.

 

[Llamamoto]

PLD signed a 3 year, $15m deal earlier.

Ethan Bear is making $5.5m a year now.

Nope, not realistic. I won't even bother with the trades.

I was talking about Mantha's contract demands.

 

[hockeynorth]

Also the trades actually seem to have reasoning this game, you have to remember you're supposed to imagine these spread over 12 months not one day.

 

[belair]

Boston is a perennial contender, Detroit hasn’t been good in five years and is coming off a dreadful season. Apples to oranges.

Had a lot more to do with Bergeron's contract setting the bar than the 'perennial contender' stuff.

You really think Yzerman's going to be throwing around money like that?

 

[hockeynorth]

Had a lot more to do with Bergeron's contract setting the bar than the 'perennial contender' stuff.

You really think Yzerman's going to be throwing around money like that?

What was Pastas top season at time of signing?

 

[belair]

I was talking about Mantha's contract demands.

Oh, I'm aware. And I've explained the logic. Unless Detroit locks him up for the full seven or eight year term, no chance Yzerman pays him $7m.

4 x $6.8m.....show me some comparables. I gave you Larkin. The teammate who's a center, has better production, plays all situations and signed for $6.1m x 5.

 

[BeLeafing]

I think it'll have a massive impact. I think we'll see teams signing shorter deals because there's no guarantee the cap goes up significantly bend those three years.

Planning for three years of payroll is chaotic enough on it's own considering you have to leave room for ELC raises. I don't see teams--particularly ones like Detroit--frivolously throwing around dollars in an uncertain cap situation.

Detroit is probably the last team that needs to worry about squeezing every last dollar from their guys. Even with ELC raises they won't have issues in the next 3+ years baring multiple massive breakouts.

But regardless Mantha is the guy you pay the extra 1M to, he's more than worth it and it's not an over payment. I'll give you the PLD comment though, I think that deal is about 1M short as well.

 

[hockeynorth]

Oh right 70 in 75, with 2 sub 30 point seasons prior, or 0.933 ppg in contract year, too bad Mantha only had 0.88 ppg this year, 3 seasons later, on a worse team, with better seasons prior. If only he was 0.05 ppg higher.

 

[belair]

What was Pastas top season at time of signing?

200 points. It didn't matter, he wasn't going to make more than Bergeron.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Had a lot more to do with Bergeron's contract setting the bar than the 'perennial contender' stuff.

Players will accept less to keep championship teams together, it’s common practice. Why would Mantha be eager to take less than he potentially could make? To keep the juggernaut Red Wings together?

You really think Yzerman's going to be throwing around money like that?

Curious, did you at least offer Mantha $6.1M over three years to match the remaining term of Larkin’s contract?

 

[hockeynorth]

200 points. It didn't matter, he wasn't going to make more than Bergeron.

You mean the 3rd highest paid guy on his team?

 

[hockeynorth]

6 x 7 is what I think would be low end reasonable for Mantha

 

[hockeynorth]

Toronto will package all future picks for the best player sub 2M available. PM me who you can move. We will pay the price to go for it.

Also moving Justin Holl for best offer if someone wants a rd

 

[belair]

You mean the 3rd highest paid guy on his team?

I mean the guy who mean's the most to his team. The perennial Selke candidate. The guy who Pastrnak relied heavily on for the production he supplied walking into those negotiations.

Mantha's in the same boat, except his production this far hasn't been that significant. Larkin is the significantly better player.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Where was the “Bergeron cap” when David Krejci signed for more the next year?

 

[LT]

lmao at arguing over a 1M cap hit increase in a fictional GM game

 

[Panda Bear]

NYI places Nick Leddy on waivers for the purpose of buying out his contract.

 

[Panda Bear]

as usual lol @ belair

 

[Gecklund]

Anthony Mantha has signed a 5 year at 7.5M per offer sheet from MTL.

Robby Fabbri has signed a 3 year at 3.5M per offer sheet with CGY.

@belair has 24 hours to match.

 

[Panda Bear]

lmao at arguing over...a fictional GM game

lol

 

[Peter Griffin]

NYI places Nick Leddy on waivers for the purpose of buying out his contract.

Too late for this isn’t it? I thought buyouts always had to be done prior to UFA starting?

 

[Gecklund]

Too late for this isn’t it? I thought buyouts always had to be done prior to UFA starting?

Correct

 

[Gecklund]

Players will start signing at 5 PM EST

 

[Panda Bear]

brb throwing a fit at the absurdity of strictly enforcing CBA rules in a fictional GM game