GM Game 5 Discussion Thread

[hockeynorth]

Ryan McDonagh could be moved for any teams looking for a LD and not liking the options available in UFA.

is the same with Hampus Lindholm

is shopping Justin Holl (cheap deal for a #4 RD) as well

 

[BeLeafing]

Martinook available for a 7th.

 

[BumDum]

Trade:

Duncan Keith

Jan Mysak, Marc Staal, 2022 2nd

 

[BumDum]

Brendan Smith is available for future considerations or a cheaper RD.

 

[Gecklund]

Both Robby Fabbri and Anthony Mantha are requesting trades out of Detroit. Both are currently RFAs so they will consider offer sheets as well.

Offer sheets will be handled by me

 

[OB5]

Both Robby Fabbri and Anthony Mantha are requesting trades out of Detroit. Both are currently RFAs so they will consider offer sheets as well.

Who do we negotiate these trades with?

 

[Gecklund]

Who do we negotiate these trades with?

So offer sheets me, trades the Detroit GM (Belair)

 

[flyersdad]

Trade:

Duncan Keith

Jan Mysak, Marc Staal, 2022 2nd

Hawks confirm. We thank Duncan Keith for all his years of service to the Hawks and wish him the best in New York.

 

[flyersdad]

looking to move Maatta, Koekkoek, de haan, caggiula for cheap futures

 

[hockeynorth]

:
Future Considerations

:
Erik Gudbranson @ 50% retention

 

[BeLeafing]

Future Considerations (he's been traded a lot today)



Jordan Martinook
OTT 2021 7th round pick

@AveryStar4Eva

 

[belair]

According to @SJSharks39 Mantha's ask is $6.8m on a four year term. His career high in points is 48.

Was kinda hoping this game would be realistic.

 

[hockeynorth]

According to @SJSharks39 Mantha's ask is $6.8m on a four year term. His career high in points is 48.

Was kinda hoping this game would be realistic.

Except he was nearly ppg this year

 

[OB5]

Montreal has signed:

Philippe Myers-2 years 1.5M
Henrik Borgstrom-1 year 950k​

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I signed Reinhart at 7.2 for 8 years. I see Mantha as a slightly better player so that cap hit feels about right

 

[BeLeafing]

According to @SJSharks39 Mantha's ask is $6.8m on a four year term. His career high in points is 48.

Was kinda hoping this game would be realistic.

The site I use to see contract projections has Mantha at 4x6.5, so I think that's in line

 

[Llamamoto]

According to @SJSharks39 Mantha's ask is $6.8m on a four year term. His career high in points is 48.

Was kinda hoping this game would be realistic.

It is.

 

[belair]

I signed Reinhart at 7.2 for 8 years. I see Mantha as a slightly better player so that cap hit feels about right

And that contract is bonkers. Particularly in a flat cap environment. Teams aren't going to be throwing around cap like that.

When Dylan Larkin is signed at $6.1m internally over term, he sets the bar internally for RFAs who produce less than him.

Why do you think David Pastrnak only signed for $6.8m in Boston? A team's internal cap situation matters.

 

[Llamamoto]

Also, 'a career high of 48 points' is extremely misleading. McDavid had 48 points in his rookie season, he was definitely not a 40-point player. Mantha was on pace for over 70 points this year. Obviously staying healthy has to be addressed, but Mantha's definitely worth more than his career high in points suggests.

 

[belair]

The site I use to see contract projections has Mantha at 4x6.5, so I think that's in line

Is the data pre- or post- flat cap?

 

[hockeynorth]

Don't care I've submitted offer sheets with both my teams.

 

[Gecklund]

Mantha and Fabbri will sign an offer sheet within the next hour.

 

[BeLeafing]

Is the data pre- or post- flat cap?

Post cap, it is stated above the projections

I also don't believe the flat cap with have as much of an impact as you think. Maybe on the lower end contracts, sure, but not for talent like Mantha.

 

[belair]

Post cap, it is stated above the projections

I also don't believe the flat cap with have as much of an impact as you think. Maybe on the lower end contracts, sure, but not for talent like Mantha.

I think it'll have a massive impact. I think we'll see teams signing shorter deals because there's no guarantee the cap goes up significantly bend those three years.

Planning for three years of payroll is chaotic enough on it's own considering you have to leave room for ELC raises. I don't see teams--particularly ones like Detroit--frivolously throwing around dollars in an uncertain cap situation.

 

[belair]

It is.

PLD signed a 3 year, $15m deal earlier.

Ethan Bear is making $5.5m a year now.

Nope, not realistic. I won't even bother with the trades.