German Players in CHL

[jking]

I saw Latta get into a fight vs. Hope in Oshawa. He didn't get much ice time

 

[sturmthis]

OHL

Mathias Niederberger - G - Barrie Colts

Tobias Rieder * - F - Kitchener Rangers

Tom Kühnhackl * - F - Niagara IceDogs

Sebastian Uvira - F - Oshawa Generals

Nickolas Latta - F - Sarnia Sting

David Elsner * - F - Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds

QMJHL

Mirko Höfflin * - F - Acadie-Bathurst Titan

Konrad Abeltshauser * - D - Halifax Mooseheads

WHL

Dominik Bittner - D - Everett Silvertips

Marcel Noebels * - F - Portland Winterhawks

* NHL Draft Pick

 

[sturmthis]

Two Germans in the top 3 statistically for the OHL playoffs

 

[Siamese Dream]

I know a bunch of guys who played for GB against all these German players in D1 of the WJC's, I now follow the progression of all these guys because of that.

 

[sturmthis]

Kitchener was eliminated last night. Tobias Rieder ended up with 13+14 27 in 16 games played. Leads the OHL in playoff points.

Mathias Niederberger (Barrie Colts) was eliminated last round, but is top 3 in GAA in the playoffs. 13 games 2.34 GAA 0.933 sv%

Niagara IceDogs and Tom Kühnhackl 5+4 9 in 14 games are still in the playoffs. They could be heading to the OHL finals soon.

In the WHL, Portland is still alive with Marcel Noebels 4+12 16 in 14 games.

Finally in the QMJHL, Halfax is still alive with Konrad Abeltshauser 4+11 15 in 13 games.

 

[Little Black]

Do you guys have any infos on goaltender Marvin Cüpper? He's just been drafted by the Shawinigan Cataractes of the QMJHL. GM Martin Mondou said he could be our #1 goaltender so I figure he must be good.

 

[Maverick41]

Do you guys have any infos on goaltender Marvin Cüpper? He's just been drafted by the Shawinigan Cataractes of the QMJHL. GM Martin Mondou said he could be our #1 goaltender so I figure he must be good.

A year ago, he was considered as a very good goalie prospect by German standards. I thought he could follow in the footsteps of guys like Grubauer or Niederberger. This last season however was not as good as many expected. There are some younger goalies who may have passed him by. His play was not really bad, but inconsistent and he didn't really seem to improve much compared to the previous season.
I'd say he has the talent, but he has a lot of work to do. Maybe a change of scenery will do him some good.
Could he challange for a number 1 spot in Shawinigan? Yes I think so. Would I bet on it? No.

 

[Little Black]

Thanks for the infos Maverick41!

 

[sturmthis]

Adler Mannheim has four junior players sign in North America

Leon Draisaitl - Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)
Dominik Kahun - Sudbury Wolves (OHL)
Frederik Tiffels - Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) - Drafted by Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
Philipp Lehr - Tri-City Storm (USHL)

 

[croAVSfan*]

Adler Mannheim has four junior players sign in North America

Leon Draisaitl - Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)
Dominik Kahun - Sudbury Wolves (OHL)
Frederik Tiffels - Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) - Drafted by Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
Philipp Lehr - Tri-City Storm (USHL)

How is Draisaitl compared to other German "big" prospects such as Kuhnhackl, Rieder, Noebels ? Is he better, equal, worse ?

 

[zecke26]

How is Draisaitl compared to other German "big" prospects such as Kuhnhackl, Rieder, Noebels ? Is he better, equal, worse ?

noebels was never considered a "big" prospect. he just seems to develop well.

draisaitl is considered to be an elite prospect for german standards. so among the kuhnhackl/rieder group.
really a very talented guy.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

noebels was never considered a "big" prospect. he just seems to develop well.

draisaitl is considered to be an elite prospect for german standards. so among the kuhnhackl/rieder group.
really a very talented guy.

Definitely a kid to keep an eye on. Still a bit of a slower, choppier skater, but big and rangy. Good eye, scorers touch.

 

[Maverick41]

[size=+2]CHL/USHL[/size]

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|G|A|P|PIM|+/-
D|Konrad Abeltshauser|Halifax Mooseheads|QMJHL|2|0|4|4|0|0
C/W|Leon Draisaitl|Prince Albert Raiders|WHL|2|0|2|2|2|+2
C|Dominik Kahun|Sudbury Wolves|OHL|2|0|1|1|0|+1
C/W|Nickolas Latta|Sarnia Sting|OHL|2|0|0|0|0|+1
RW|Tobias Rieder|Kitchener Rangers|OHL|2|0|2|2|2|+1
LW|Frederik Tiffels|Muskegon Lumberjacks|USHL|-|-|-|-|-|-
RW|Sebastian Uvira|Oshawa Generals|OHL|2|1|0|1|0|0

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|GAA|Pct.
G|Marvin Cüpper|Shawinigan Cataractes|QMJHL|2|3.39|.921
G|Philip Lehr|Tri-City Storm|USHL|-|-|-
G|Mathias Niederberger|Barrie Colts|OHL|2|3.51|.901
G|Jan Obernesser|Sioux Falls Stampede|USHL|-|-|-

I'll try to keep this post updated, at least once per week.
I don't know if Lehr and Obernesser will actually make their teams and play in the USHL, but for now I leave them in there.
If anyone got any suggestions what I should add or change, please let me know.

 

[TheHoff]

[size=+2]CHL/USHL[/size]

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|G|A|P|PIM|+/-
D|Konrad Abeltshauser|Halifax Mooseheads|QMJHL|2|0|4|4|0|0
C/W|Leon Draisaitl|Prince Albert Raiders|WHL|2|0|2|2|2|+2
C|Dominik Kahun|Sudbury Wolves|OHL|2|0|1|1|0|+1
C/W|Nickolas Latta|Sarnia Sting|OHL|2|0|0|0|0|+1
RW|Tobias Rieder|Kitchener Rangers|OHL|2|0|2|2|2|+1
LW|Frederik Tiffels|Muskegon Lumberjacks|USHL|-|-|-|-|-|-
RW|Sebastian Uvira|Oshawa Generals|OHL|2|1|0|1|0|0

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|GAA|Pct.
G|Marvin Cüpper|Shawinigan Cataractes|QMJHL|2|3.39|.921
G|Philip Lehr|Tri-City Storm|USHL|-|-|-
G|Mathias Niederberger|Barrie Colts|OHL|2|3.51|.901
G|Jan Obernesser|Sioux Falls Stampede|USHL|-|-|-

I'll try to keep this post updated, at least once per week.
I don't know if Lehr and Obernesser will actually make their teams and play in the USHL, but for now I leave them in there.
If anyone got any suggestions what I should add or change, please let me know.

Thanks for the update!
Where's Kühnhackl? I couldn't find him on the OHL homepage... It seems that it got a bit quiet about Tom since that hit on Ryan Murphy.

 

[smitty10]

Thanks for the update!
Where's Kühnhackl? I couldn't find him on the OHL homepage... It seems that it got a bit quiet about Tom since that hit on Ryan Murphy.

He'll be playing with WB/Scranton in the AHL this year. He's graduated from the CHL to the pro ranks.

 

[Maverick41]

Thanks for the update!
Where's Kühnhackl? I couldn't find him on the OHL homepage... It seems that it got a bit quiet about Tom since that hit on Ryan Murphy.

As Smitty pointed out he is going to play in the pros this year.
I will probably add the German players in the AHL like Kühnhackl, Noebels, Grubauer, etc. once their season starts.
I am wondering if any of them might end up in the ECHL because of the lockout.

 

[TheHoff]

He'll be playing with WB/Scranton in the AHL this year. He's graduated from the CHL to the pro ranks.

Thanks!

As Smitty pointed out he is going to play in the pros this year.
I will probably add the German players in the AHL like Kühnhackl, Noebels, Grubauer, etc. once their season starts.

That would be great!

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

[size=+2]CHL/USHL[/size]

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|G|A|P|PIM|+/-
D|Konrad Abeltshauser|Halifax Mooseheads|QMJHL|2|0|4|4|0|0
C/W|Leon Draisaitl|Prince Albert Raiders|WHL|2|0|2|2|2|+2
C|Dominik Kahun|Sudbury Wolves|OHL|2|0|1|1|0|+1
C/W|Nickolas Latta|Sarnia Sting|OHL|2|0|0|0|0|+1
RW|Tobias Rieder|Kitchener Rangers|OHL|2|0|2|2|2|+1
LW|Frederik Tiffels|Muskegon Lumberjacks|USHL|-|-|-|-|-|-
RW|Sebastian Uvira|Oshawa Generals|OHL|2|1|0|1|0|0

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|GAA|Pct.
G|Marvin Cüpper|Shawinigan Cataractes|QMJHL|2|3.39|.921
G|Philip Lehr|Tri-City Storm|USHL|-|-|-
G|Mathias Niederberger|Barrie Colts|OHL|2|3.51|.901
G|Jan Obernesser|Sioux Falls Stampede|USHL|-|-|-

Great stuff!

Look forward to following this throughout, especially if the AHLers are added to the list.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

As Smitty pointed out he is going to play in the pros this year.
I will probably add the German players in the AHL like Kühnhackl, Noebels, Grubauer, etc. once their season starts.
I am wondering if any of them might end up in the ECHL because of the lockout.

There should of course be a trickle-down effect due to the lockout.

I have to think that Kuhnhackl will be in the AHL in some capacity. At the moment, he remains one of Pittsburgh's most intriguing offensive prospects and I think they'll want to see what he can do at that level, especially if there's some interesting talent that he'd otherwise not get to play with at this point without the lockout.

 

[smitty10]

There should of course be a trickle-down effect due to the lockout.

I have to think that Kuhnhackl will be in the AHL in some capacity. At the moment, he remains one of Pittsburgh's most intriguing offensive prospects and I think they'll want to see what he can do at that level, especially if there's some interesting talent that he'd otherwise not get to play with at this point without the lockout.

I think all three of them will end up in the AHL. Abeltshauser should have been assigned to the AHL if this was a regular season, however I think in order to keep him away from the ECHL, San Jose sent him back to the Q. I'd be shocked if any of the others see any time in the ECHL. Noebels should have no problem cracking a terrible Adirondack team, Kuhnhackl is one of Pittsburgh's top forward prospects and Grubauer will be playing a bigger role for Hershey this year.

Holzer would have cracked the Leafs, but he'll be back in the AHL until (if?) the NHL season starts. Krueger will be playing a top 4 role with Charlotte.

With Mueller moving to Sweden, are there any other German prospects in the AHL this year?

 

[Maverick41]

[size=+2]CHL/USHL[/size]

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|G|A|P|PIM|+/-|DOB
D|Konrad Abeltshauser|Halifax Mooseheads|QMJHL|2|0|4|4|0|0|1992-09-02
C/W|Leon Draisaitl|Prince Albert Raiders|WHL|2|0|2|2|2|+2|1995-10-27
C|Dominik Kahun|Sudbury Wolves|OHL|2|0|1|1|0|+1|1995-07-02
C/W|Nickolas Latta|Sarnia Sting|OHL|2|0|0|0|0|+1|1993-10-05
RW|Tobias Rieder|Kitchener Rangers|OHL|2|0|2|2|2|+1|1993-01-10
LW|Frederik Tiffels|Muskegon Lumberjacks|USHL|-|-|-|-|-|-|1995-05-20
RW|Sebastian Uvira|Oshawa Generals|OHL|2|1|0|1|0|0|1993-01-26

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|GAA|Pct.|DOB
G|Marvin Cüpper|Shawinigan Cataractes|QMJHL|2|3.39|.921|1994-02-16
G|Philip Lehr|Tri-City Storm|USHL|-|-|-|1993-06-03
G|Mathias Niederberger|Barrie Colts|OHL|2|3.51|.901|1992-11-26
G|Jan Obernesser|Sioux Falls Stampede|USHL|-|-|-|1992-12-03

[size=+2]AHL[/size]

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|G|A|P|PIM|+/-|DOB
D|Korbinian Holzer|Toronto Marlies|AHL|-|-|-|-|-|-|1988-02-16
D|Justin Krueger|Charlotte Checkers|AHL|-|-|-|-|-|-|1986-10-06
W|Tom Kühnhackl|Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins|AHL|-|-|-|-|-|-|1992-02-21
LW|Marcel Noebels|Adirondack Phantoms|AHL|-|-|-|-|-|-|1992-03-14

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|GAA|Pct.|DOB
G|Philip Grubauer|Hershey Bears|AHL|-|-|-|1991-11-25

[size=+2]DNL[/size]

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|G|A|P|PIM|+/-|DOB
D|Tim Bender|Jungadler Mannheim|DNL|4|2|3|5|2|+8|1995-03-19
F|Andreas Eder|EC Bad Tölz U18|DNL|5|2|4|6|2|+9|1996-03-20
F|Markus Eisenschmid|ESV Kaufbeuren U18|DNL|6|3|3|6|10|+1|1995-01-22
F|Vladislav Filin|Eisbären Juniors|DNL|6|5|6|11|2|+4|1995-03-20
F|Erik Gollenbeck|Jungadler Mannheim|DNL|2|1|6|7|0|+9|1995-05-31
F|Maximilian Kammerer|EC Bad Tölz U18|DNL|5|5|2|7|0|+10|1996-09-28
F|Nico Kolb|ESV Kaufbeuren U18|DNL|6|2|4|6|10|+4|1996-04-12
F|Alex Lambacher|Jungadler Mannheim|DNL|4|3|3|6|0|+7|1996-10-07
F|Dominik Lascheit|Eisbären Juniors|DNL|6|3|3|6|0|+2|1995-01-10
D|Simon Mayr|EC Bad Tölz U18|DNL|6|2|0|2|0|+7|1995-03-12
D/F|Janik Möser|Jungadler Mannheim|DNL|4|1|3|4|4|+8|1995-09-26
F|Leon Niederberger|DEG Eishockey U18|DNL|2|0|1|1|4|0|1996-01-31
F|Fabio Pfohl|DEG Eishockey U18|DNL|1|1|0|1|0|0|1995-10-08
D|Andreas Schwarz|EC Bad Tölz U18|DNL|2|0|1|1|2|+1|1995-05-06
F|Denis Shevyrin|Krefelder EV U18|DNL|6|2|3|5|6|-5|1995-03-29
F|Parker Tuomie|Jungadler Mannheim|DNL|4|8|7|15|4|+15|1995-10-31
D|Fabio Wagner|EV Landshut U18|DNL|6|1|3|4|4|-1|1995-09-17

Pos|Name|Team|League|GP|GAA|Pct.|DOB
G|Thorsten Knorr|ESV Kaufbeuren U18|DNL|2|2.00|.922|1995-06-11
G|Florian Proske|Jungadler Mannheim|DNL|2|1.00|.943|1996-06-22
G|Kevin Reich|Jungadler Mannheim|DNL|2|0.50|.977|1995-10-26
G|Hannibal Weitzmann|Starbulls Rosenheim U18|DNL|2|4.00|.907|1995-09-25

As you can see, I added more than just the guys from the AHL.
I hope you guys don't mind that I also added some players from the DNL.
I'll admit I picked some of the guys in the DNL just based on their numbers but in those cases I found the numbers very intriguing. We'll see if any of them actually turn out to be any good.

Since this has become somewhat bigger than initially planned, do you think I should start a new thread or should I just keep posting regular updates in this thread?

 

[Maverick41]

I think all three of them will end up in the AHL. Abeltshauser should have been assigned to the AHL if this was a regular season, however I think in order to keep him away from the ECHL, San Jose sent him back to the Q. I'd be shocked if any of the others see any time in the ECHL. Noebels should have no problem cracking a terrible Adirondack team, Kuhnhackl is one of Pittsburgh's top forward prospects and Grubauer will be playing a bigger role for Hershey this year.

Holzer would have cracked the Leafs, but he'll be back in the AHL until (if?) the NHL season starts. Krueger will be playing a top 4 role with Charlotte.

With Mueller moving to Sweden, are there any other German prospects in the AHL this year?

No, I believe Grubauer, Holzer, Krueger, Kühnhackl and Noebels are the only ones.

And thank you for the insight regarding the quality of the AHL-Teams and the potential roles of the German players. I have followed that league very little in the past. I only kept tabs on the Marlies because of Holzer and Mueller.

 

[zecke26]

I don't know if Lehr and Obernesser will actually make their teams and play in the USHL, but for now I leave them in there.

obernesser made the opening roster.

lehr's team didn't announce it yet, i think. they have time until tomorrow. but as far as i know lehr is already in contract talks with a german team anyway.

 

[Maverick41]

obernesser made the opening roster.

lehr's team didn't announce it yet, i think. they have time until tomorrow. but as far as i know lehr is already in contract talks with a german team anyway.

Thank you for the information. That's good news about Obernesser, and I am curious to see where Lehr is going to end up.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Of the DNL boys named above, there are some interesting prospects for the upcoming draft, namely Eisenschmid and Gollenbeck. A few of the others were draft-eligible last year and certainly could be interesting in the eyes of the NHL IF they could have monster, monster years. Of course, one or more would have to have an awestriking WJC in Ufa much like Niederreiter had in his draft year.

Also, Tuomie and Kammerer are, I believe, candidates for the 2014 draft. I keep forgetting what exactly the cut-off date is, but both will be 17 as of the 13 draft and Tuomie won't be 18 until the following September. Goaltender Proske would even be a year thereafter, I believe. If he has a strong DNL year - something he's started in a fine manner - expect him to be on a short list of players heading to the CHL as soon as next season.