German Players in CHL

[Maverick41]

[size=+2]Junior[/size]

Pos | Name | Team | League | Season | GP | G | A | P | PIM | +/- | DOB
D|Konrad Abeltshauser|Halifax Mooseheads|QMJHL|Regular Season|57|7|47|54|22|+36|1992-09-02
||Halifax Mooseheads|QMJHL|Playoffs|17|7|13|20|12|+18|1992-09-02
||Halifax Mooseheads|Memorial Cup|Playoffs|4|2|3|5|2|+2|1992-09-02
C/W|Leon Draisaitl|Prince Albert Raiders|WHL|Regular Season|63|21|36|57|22|+23|1995-10-27
||Prince Albert Raiders|WHL|Playoffs|4|0|4|4|0|-4|1995-10-27
||Germany U18|U18 WJC||5|1|6|7|4|+2|1995-10-27
C|Dominik Kahun|Sudbury Wolves|OHL|Regular Season|58|13|27|40|8|0|1995-07-02
||Sudbury Wolves|OHL|Playoffs|9|1|5|6|4|-2|1995-07-02
||Germany U18|U18 WJC||5|3|4|7|4|+4|1995-07-02
C/W|Nickolas Latta|Sarnia Sting|OHL|Regular Season|58|17|14|31|51|-17|1993-10-05
||Sarnia Sting|OHL|Playoffs|4|3|0|3|2|-3|1993-10-05
F|Lukas Laub|Indiana Ice|USHL|Regular Season|23|4|4|8|2|-4|1994-05-29
RW|Tobias Rieder|Kitchener Rangers|OHL|Regular Season|52|27|29|56|12|+9|1993-01-10
||Kitchener Rangers|OHL|Playoffs|9|2|10|12|4|+2|1993-01-10
LW|Frederik Tiffels|Muskegon Lumberjacks|USHL|Regular Season|50|3|22|25|10|+13|1995-05-20
||Muskegon Lumberjacks|USHL|Playoffs|3|1|0|1|0|0|1995-05-20
RW|Sebastian Uvira|Plymouth Whalers|OHL|Regular Season|26|7|14|21|31|+14|1993-01-26
||Oshawa Generals|OHL|Regular Season|23|3|3|6|17|+1|1993-01-26
||Total|OHL|Regular Season|49|10|17|27|48|+15|1993-01-26
||Plymouth Whalers|OHL|Playoffs|15|3|5|8|25|+12|1993-01-26

Pos | Name | Team | League | Season | GP | Minutes | GAA | Pct. | W | L | OTL | DOB
G|Marvin Cüpper|Shawinigan Cataractes|QMJHL|Regular Season|52|2887:20|3.72|.896|13|31|4|1994-02-16
G|Mathias Niederberger|Barrie Colts|OHL|Regular Season|56|3128:11|2.34|.933|35|12|3|1992-11-26
||Barrie Colts|OHL|Playoffs|22|1313:19|2.60|.928|15|6|0|1992-11-26
G|Jan Obernesser|Sioux Falls Stampede|USHL|Regular Season|13|647:04|3.52|.862|7|3|0|1992-12-03

[size=+2]Pro[/size]

Pos | Name | Team | League | Season | GP | G | A | P | PIM | +/- | DOB
D|Korbinian Holzer|Toronto Maple Leafs|NHL|Regular Season|22|2|1|3|28|-12|1988-02-16
||Toronto Marlies|AHL|Regular Season|45|1|10|11|34|+14|1988-02-16
||Toronto Marlies|AHL|Playoffs|8|0|1|1|24|-4|1988-02-16
D|Justin Krueger|Charlotte Checkers|AHL|Regular Season|69|1|14|15|31|-2|1986-10-06
||Charlotte Checkers|AHL|Playoffs|5|0|2|2|0|-3|1986-10-06
||Team Germany|WC||4|0|0|0|0|0|1986-10-06
W| Tom Kühnhackl |W/B-Scranton Penguins|AHL|Regular Season|11|2|2|4|6|+3|1992-02-21
||Wheeling Nailers|ECHL|Regular Season|2|1|0|1|2|+2|1992-02-21
LW|Marcel Noebels|Adirondack Phantoms|AHL|Regular Season|42|13|10|23|2|0|1992-03-14
||Trenton Titans|ECHL|Regular Season|31|11|19|30|14|-7|1992-03-14
||Team Germany|WC||3|0|0|0|0|0|1992-03-14

Pos | Name | Team | League | Season | GP | Minutes | GAA | Pct. | W | L | OTL | DOB
G|Philipp Grubauer|Washington Capitals|NHL|Regular Season|2|83:58|3.57|.915|0|1|0|1991-11-25
||Hershey Bears|AHL|Regular Season|28|1623:46|2.25|.919|15|8|3|1991-11-25
||Hershey Bears|AHL|Playoffs|5|300:44|3.79|.901|2|3|0|1991-11-25
||Reading Royals|ECHL|Regular Season|26|1542:29|2.29|.912|19|5|1|1991-11-25

Notes:

• Konrad Abeltshauser and the Halifax Mooseheads have one the Memorial Cup by defeating the Portland Winterhawks 6-4 in the Final on Sunday. Konrad hat 2 goals and 1 assist and was -2. He managed to be on the ice for every one of the goals against.
  The last German player to win the Memorial Cup was Philip Grubauer in 2010 with the Windsor Spitfire team featuring Taylor Hall.

[size=+2]Playoff Standings[/size]

League | Team 1 | vs. | Team 2 | Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Game 5 | Game 6 | Game 7 | Series
QMJHL| Halifax Mooseheads (1) |vs.|Saint John Sea Dogs (16)|11-1|2-1|6-1|6-1||||4-0
WHL|Red Deer Rebels (4)|vs.| Prince Albert Raiders (5) |3-0|3-2|3-1|3-2||||4-0
OHL|Brampton Battalion (4)|vs.| Sudbury Wolves (5) |4-1|4-5|1-3|4-5 OT|0-1 OT|||1-4
OHL| Barrie Colts (2) |vs.|Kingston Frontenacs (7)|3-1|7-4|4-2|8-2||||4-0
OHL| Kitchener Rangers (4) |vs.|Guelph Storm (5)|5-2|2-0|2-3|2-1|4-2|||4-1
OHL| Plymouth Whalers (2) |vs.| Sarnia Sting (7) |11-2|3-2|5-2|5-2||||4-0
AHL|Providence Bruins (1)|vs.| Hershey Bears (8) |2-5|4-5 OT|5-1|5-4|3-2|||3-2
AHL| Toronto Marlies (2) |vs.|Rochester Americans (7)|6-3|2-0|3-2 OT|||||3-0
AHL| Charlotte Checkers (4) |vs.|Oklahoma City Barons (5)|4-3 OT|2-5|6-1|1-8|2-6|||2-3

League | Team 1 | vs. | Team 2 | Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Game 5 | Game 6 | Game 7 | Series
QMJHL| Halifax Mooseheads (1) |vs.|Gatineau Olympiques (13)|7-0|5-0|4-2|5-3||||4-0
OHL|Belleville Bulls (1)|vs.| Sudbury Wolves (5) |6-3|4-1|4-0|5-0||||4-0
OHL| Barrie Colts (2) |vs.|Oshawa Generals (3)|4-3 OT|4-1|4-0|4-2||||4-0
OHL|London Knights (1)|vs.| Kitchener Rangers (4) |4-1|2-0|2-6|4-3 OT|4-1|||4-1
OHL| Plymouth Whalers (2) |vs.|Owen Sound Attack (3)|4-1|1-3|6-3|3-4|5-0|3-1||4-2
USHL|Dubuque Fighting Saints (1)|vs.| Muskegon Lumberjacks (4) |4-1|4-3|3-2 OT|||||3-0
AHL| Toronto Marlies (2) |vs.|Grand Rapids Griffins (3)|0-7|4-2|4-5|1-4|4-1|3-4||2-

League | Team 1 | vs. | Team 2 | Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Game 5 | Game 6 | Game 7 | Series
QMJHL| Halifax Mooseheads (1) |vs.|Rouyn-Noranda Huskies (8)|6-4|5-4 OT|3-2 OT|9-6||||4-0
OHL|Belleville Bulls (1)|vs.| Barrie Colts (2) |3-2|0-5|4-5 OT|3-4 OT|3-1|3-1|1-3|3-4
OHL|London Knights (1)|vs.| Plymouth Whalers (2) |2-1|3-4 OT2|6-4|6-4|5-4 OT|||4-1

League | Team 1 | vs. | Team 2 | Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Game 5 | Game 6 | Game 7 | Series
QMJHL| Halifax Mooseheads (1) |vs.|Baie-Comeau Drakkar (2)|4-0|4-3|1-3|7-4|5-1|||4-1
OHL|London Knights (1)|vs.| Barrie Colts (2) |2-4|4-1|3-6|4-6|6-4|5-4 OT|3-2|4-3

[size=+2]Memorial Cup[/size]

Event | Stage | Team 1 | vs. | Team 2 | Result
Memorial Cup|Round Robin|London Knights|vs.|Saskatoon Blades|3-2
Memorial Cup|Round Robin| Halifax Mooseheads |vs.|Portland Winterhawks|7-4
Memorial Cup|Round Robin| Halifax Mooseheads |vs.|Saskatoon Blades|2-5
Memorial Cup|Round Robin|Portland Winterhawks|vs.|London Knights|6-3
Memorial Cup|Round Robin| Halifax Mooseheads |vs.|London Knights|9-2
Memorial Cup|Round Robin|Saskatoon Blades|vs.|Portland Winterhawks|2-4
Memorial Cup|Playoff|London Knights|vs.|Saskatoon Blades|6-1
Memorial Cup|Semi Final|Portland Winterhawks|vs.|London Knights|2-1
Memorial Cup|Final| Halifax Mooseheads |vs.|Portland Winterhawks|6-4

 

[Maverick41]

4 German players were selected in the USHL Entry Draft this year

10th Round - #149 - Parker Tuomie - Sioux Falls Stampede
11th Round - #164 - Janik Möser - Sioux Falls Stampede
12th Round - #168 - Marcel Kurth - Des Moines Buccaneers
13th Round - #183 - Tim Bender - Des Moines Buccaneers

I will start a new thread for the upcoming season this weekend.
It will be similar to what I have done this year with a few changes here and there.

 

[Lauro]

A quick question for anyone following this thread.

Should I continue this for next season, and if so, should I just keep this thread going or start a new one?

I am back at hfboards after two years and today our german prospects came to my mind and this thread was gold, thx a lot.

 

[TheHoff]

4 German players were selected in the USHL Entry Draft this year

10th Round - #149 - Parker Tuomie - Sioux Falls Stampede
11th Round - #164 - Janik Möser - Sioux Falls Stampede
12th Round - #168 - Marcel Kurth - Des Moines Buccaneers
13th Round - #183 - Tim Bender - Des Moines Buccaneers

I will start a new thread for the upcoming season this weekend.
It will be similar to what I have done this year with a few changes here and there.

I have said it a couple of times already, but thanks for keeping us updated. You're saving us a lot of time with your work.

I thought that Tuomie maybe will be picked a bit higher. Couldn't he become a pretty interesting prospect? I thought that he's certainly the best player of the ones that were picked this year and the german picks were picked very close together for some reason. How good is he and why are german prospects getting drafted so low? Because it's not that realistic that they all join the USHL?

 

[Maverick41]

I am back at hfboards after two years and today our german prospects came to my mind and this thread was gold, thx a lot.

No problem, I love doing this.

I have said it a couple of times already, but thanks for keeping us updated. You're saving us a lot of time with your work.

I thought that Tuomie maybe will be picked a bit higher. Couldn't he become a pretty interesting prospect? I thought that he's certainly the best player of the ones that were picked this year and the german picks were picked very close together for some reason. How good is he and why are german prospects getting drafted so low? Because it's not that realistic that they all join the USHL?

Tuomie was also a #5 pick in the NAHL, and he might play in the NAHL instead of the USHL this year, although I thought he would surely play in the USHL.

Also, for the discussion of the upcoming season it might be best to use the new thread. Just in case anyone missed it, because it's not stickied.

 

[Vicente]

Sorry if this was asked already but I would be interested in knowing where all these German CHLers of the era 2005- ended up. Did playing CHL hockey improve their chances to become a pro hockey player or did their careers get a setback from it? Thanks for any answer!

 

[Sanderson]

Who exactly are you referring to?
Do you mean the players drafted from 2005 till today, or the ones who played major junior in 2005?

I guess you mean the former, so I'll try and take a look

2005:
-Felix Schütz did just fine. Seeing where he was before he left and what he accomplished afterwards, it definately was the right move. Turning into a solid scorer in both DEL and AHL right after leaving the QMJHL.

2006:
-Stefan Langwieder played just one junior season. Had a few years as a bottom-pairing defenseman in the DEL and is now in the DEL2. Don't think the year abroad had much influence on his career.

2007:
-Timo Pielmeier had a few unspectacular years in the ECHL/AHL, was rookie of the year in the 2.Bundesliga last season and should be backup in the DEL this year.
-Denis Reul has played as a defensive defenseman for Mannheim for a few years now. I think the two years overseas helped him a bit, but there isn't much that can be done about his weaknesses
-Gerrit Fauser had one solid and one below average season in the QMJHL and moved between DEL and 2.Bundesliga for the next three years before having his breakout season with Hanover last year
-Simon Fischhaber jumped from the DNL to OHL, playing two seasons as a 4th liner there, and since then has been a 4th liner in the DEL with no particular development of his offensive skills
-Maximilian Brandl had two solid years in the 2.Bundesliga before moving over for a bit more than a year. Couldn't quite cut it in the DEL afterwards and has been back at Landshut for three years now. Doesn't seem to have improved much lately.

2008:
-Jerome Flaake never moved over, but has developed exceptionally well in the last two years.
-Toni Ritter had a good first half year in the QMJHL and a pretty bad second season. Has been a 4th liner in the DEL with hardly any offense ever since
-Philipp Grubauer, did very well in the ECHL and AHL and may be on a path to the NHL
-Maximilian Englbrecht never moved over, has been part-time backup in the DEL, playing mostly Oberliga. Should be starter for Hanover this season.

Not sure if I should continue. Everyone beyond that year is still 21 or younger, which is a bit early to judge their future career path, or is playing in the AHL.

 

[Maverick41]

Who exactly are you referring to?
Do you mean the players drafted from 2005 till today, or the ones who played major junior in 2005?

I guess you mean the former, so I'll try and take a look

2005:
-Felix Schütz did just fine. Seeing where he was before he left and what he accomplished afterwards, it definately was the right move. Turning into a solid scorer in both DEL and AHL right after leaving the QMJHL.

2006:
-Stefan Langwieder played just one junior season. Had a few years as a bottom-pairing defenseman in the DEL and is now in the DEL2. Don't think the year abroad had much influence on his career.

2007:
-Timo Pielmeier had a few unspectacular years in the ECHL/AHL, was rookie of the year in the 2.Bundesliga last season and should be backup in the DEL this year.
-Denis Reul has played as a defensive defenseman for Mannheim for a few years now. I think the two years overseas helped him a bit, but there isn't much that can be done about his weaknesses
-Gerrit Fauser had one solid and one below average season in the QMJHL and moved between DEL and 2.Bundesliga for the next three years before having his breakout season with Hanover last year
-Simon Fischhaber jumped from the DNL to OHL, playing two seasons as a 4th liner there, and since then has been a 4th liner in the DEL with no particular development of his offensive skills
-Maximilian Brandl had two solid years in the 2.Bundesliga before moving over for a bit more than a year. Couldn't quite cut it in the DEL afterwards and has been back at Landshut for three years now. Doesn't seem to have improved much lately.

2008:
-Jerome Flaake never moved over, but has developed exceptionally well in the last two years.
-Toni Ritter had a good first half year in the QMJHL and a pretty bad second season. Has been a 4th liner in the DEL with hardly any offense ever since
-Philipp Grubauer, did very well in the ECHL and AHL and may be on a path to the NHL
-Maximilian Englbrecht never moved over, has been part-time backup in the DEL, playing mostly Oberliga. Should be starter for Hanover this season.

Not sure if I should continue. Everyone beyond that year is still 21 or younger, which is a bit early to judge their future career path, or is playing in the AHL.

It looks like Ritter's development has picked up a bit lately. I have not seen enough games of him to say this with certainty but the few times I saw him towards the end of last season he was looking a bit better, and he reportedly played pretty well in the first exhibition game this season. That's not much to go on, but he might yet turn into a decent 2nd or 3rd liner in the DEL, which is not too bad.

 

[Vicente]

Who exactly are you referring to?
Do you mean the players drafted from 2005 till today, or the ones who played major junior in 2005?

I guess you mean the former, so I'll try and take a look

2005:
-Felix Schütz did just fine. Seeing where he was before he left and what he accomplished afterwards, it definately was the right move. Turning into a solid scorer in both DEL and AHL right after leaving the QMJHL.

2006:
-Stefan Langwieder played just one junior season. Had a few years as a bottom-pairing defenseman in the DEL and is now in the DEL2. Don't think the year abroad had much influence on his career.

2007:
-Timo Pielmeier had a few unspectacular years in the ECHL/AHL, was rookie of the year in the 2.Bundesliga last season and should be backup in the DEL this year.
-Denis Reul has played as a defensive defenseman for Mannheim for a few years now. I think the two years overseas helped him a bit, but there isn't much that can be done about his weaknesses
-Gerrit Fauser had one solid and one below average season in the QMJHL and moved between DEL and 2.Bundesliga for the next three years before having his breakout season with Hanover last year
-Simon Fischhaber jumped from the DNL to OHL, playing two seasons as a 4th liner there, and since then has been a 4th liner in the DEL with no particular development of his offensive skills
-Maximilian Brandl had two solid years in the 2.Bundesliga before moving over for a bit more than a year. Couldn't quite cut it in the DEL afterwards and has been back at Landshut for three years now. Doesn't seem to have improved much lately.

2008:
-Jerome Flaake never moved over, but has developed exceptionally well in the last two years.
-Toni Ritter had a good first half year in the QMJHL and a pretty bad second season. Has been a 4th liner in the DEL with hardly any offense ever since
-Philipp Grubauer, did very well in the ECHL and AHL and may be on a path to the NHL
-Maximilian Englbrecht never moved over, has been part-time backup in the DEL, playing mostly Oberliga. Should be starter for Hanover this season.

Not sure if I should continue. Everyone beyond that year is still 21 or younger, which is a bit early to judge their future career path, or is playing in the AHL.

Thanks for all the information.

Would it be a bit unfair to say success in the CHL had little influence on the later career of these German players? I mean it's still major junior hockey and playing against 16 or 17 year olds is a different thing than playing against 30 year old professional athletes who do this job for over a decade.

 

[Tronador]

Still waiting for any confirmation of the German prospects for CHL, USHL and NAHL (except Gollenbeck). Any update to them? I just don't understand, why mostly all other draft prospects (Ehlers, the Swiss players, Swedish, Russian..) got contracts and their transfers has been confirmed. That is really strange..
So, at this point it is not really clear, which prospects finally will play in North America....

 

[Maverick41]

Still waiting for any confirmation of the German prospects for CHL, USHL and NAHL (except Gollenbeck). Any update to them? I just don't understand, why mostly all other draft prospects (Ehlers, the Swiss players, Swedish, Russian..) got contracts and their transfers has been confirmed. That is really strange..
So, at this point it is not really clear, which prospects finally will play in North America....

No confirmation yet, but they seem to plan with Marco Sedlar in Charlottetown. I guess we won't get the final confirmation until after the teams training camps, when they announce their final rosters.
Maybe one of the guys gets cut and ends up playing another year in Germany.
I just think they won't give any official confirmation until after they made the final roster. To my knowledge they have all confirmed that they want to play in North America, and if they make their respective teams, they will.

 

[Younghockey]

Goalie

Any goalie in the NHL draft this Year?

 

[KerbanHockey]

Maybe Kevin Reich, but I'm not quite sure.