German football 2020/21

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It also doesn't help that they play in this massive olympic stadium on the outskirts of the city, but Hertha's biggest problem is that they are spursy-er than Tottenham. Even with they have Cunha doing his best Marcelinho-impression.

While the Olympiastadion isn't exactly the most conveniently located stadium for people from other parts of the city, it's not nearly as far in the outskirts as the Alte Försterei. Now that stadium is pretty much in the middle of a forest.
 

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While the Olympiastadion isn't exactly the most conveniently located stadium for people from other parts of the city, it's not nearly as far in the outskirts as the Alte Försterei. Now that stadium is pretty much in the middle of a forest.

What are you talking about, the Alte Försterei is just a 5-minute walk from my grandparents' & a much shorter s-bahn ride from my cousin's place in the city...

You make it sound like there are people in the city other than my relatives & friends.
 
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I'll definitely take the trip to Köpenick anytime over the parading grounds, besides the forest is lovely.
 

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What are you talking about, the Alte Försterei is just a 5-minute walk from my grandparents' & a much shorter s-bahn ride from my cousin's place in the city...

You make it sound like there are people in the city other than my relatives & friends.
This is how a typical Union supporter looks like


btw. Hannover 96 supporters look/are like this


Our chicks look/are like this
 
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Today is exactly why Favre cannot manage a Championship team. Terrible squad management.

No way Haaland should've started again. He needs a rest. Maybe Favre was reading too many headlines because Haaland was just as bad in midweek, despite the goals. Meunier starts every game, usually plays poorly, at fault for both goals today (the second one because we had to go down to 10 temporarily and his marker scores it), and now he has a muscle injury. Dortmund always starts losing games when Witsel plays too many games and the midfield consequently loses its shape. And even the Bayern game weeks back Hummels played awful because he was unfit due to a muscle injury from Favre running him into the ground.

This is going to be three seasons in a row Dortmund wastes a chance to win the title because this buffoon is the weakest link.
 

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I thought Favre had improved on some of the issues I had had in the past this year.... starting Passlack and Meunier at fullback and a midfield of Witsel and Can against football juggernaut FC Köln is as dumb as any lineup move he has made in Dortmund.
 

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PSG academy players in full force today in Germany. 3 goals (Coman, Nkunku, Coulibaly) just this afternoon. Kouassi played too for Bayern.
 

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Poor Favre, he gets crucified for the same things that Kloppo is being applauded for complaining about...despite Jurgen doing far less un-forced rotating in this cramped season.

Lucien just can't win with you people. If he rests Haaland then you lot would be complaining that he didn't start your goal-machine against a very defensive Köln side who at no point wanted to control the match & were obviously just going to sit deep without the threat of Haaland.

It's not Favre's fault that Sancho has been in his feelings since United refused to pay up for him, yet it's Favre who suffers because his star can't get his head out of his ass. If Jaden were playing like last season then you win this match & you'd have beaten Bayern.
 
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Rose's not messing around. Other than Jantschke & the Herrmann at RB experiment, this is basically their best 11 (Lazaro vs Wolf / Stindl / Hofmann is a toss up) for the first time all season.
 

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Poor Favre, he gets crucified for the same things that Kloppo is being applauded for complaining about...despite Jurgen doing far less un-forced rotating in this cramped season.

Lucien just can't win with you people. If he rests Haaland then you lot would be complaining that he didn't start your goal-machine against a very defensive Köln side who at no point wanted to control the match & were obviously just going to sit deep without the threat of Haaland.

It's not Favre's fault that Sancho has been in his feelings since United refused to pay up for him, yet it's Favre who suffers because Sancho can't get his head out of his ass. If Jaden were playing like last season then you win this match & you'd have beaten Bayern.

Its Favres fault to start Meunier,Passlack/Witsel,Can against a team that parks the bus. Brandt as winger doesnt help too.
 

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Its Favres fault to start Meunier,Passlack/Witsel,Can against a team that parks the bus. Brandt as winger doesnt help too.

It's Koln, if you need your best 11 to break them down then maybe you shouldn't be expecting to win the BuLi until you get better depth...
 

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Poor Favre, he gets crucified for the same things that Kloppo is being applauded for complaining about...despite Jurgen doing far less un-forced rotating in this cramped season.

Lucien just can't win with you people. If he rests Haaland then you lot would be complaining that he didn't start your goal-machine against a very defensive Köln side who at no point wanted to control the match & were obviously just going to sit deep without the threat of Haaland.

It's not Favre's fault that Sancho has been in his feelings since United refused to pay up for him, yet it's Favre who suffers because his star can't get his head out of his ass. If Jaden were playing like last season then you win this match & you'd have beaten Bayern.

Klopp has certainly gotten criticism over his career for not rotating players. Not sure what the current narrative is. It helps when you actually have multiple dominant seasons in the Champions League or domestically to show for running your team into the ground, of course.

It's Koln, if you need your best 11 to break them down then maybe you shouldn't be expecting to win the BuLi until you get better depth...

They have a deeper team than they've ever had. It's a lot deeper than even when Tuchel was manager. Passlack is the only one of those players who isn't in our top 10 most used players this season. The problem isn't that he rotated players; it's that he used the same players, and moved Can forward to a role where his bad passing is more of an issue, especially against a very defensive opponent where creativity is demanded. They actually have good and creative backups in these roles, but Favre didn't choose them today. Dahoud was rested. Morey can barely sniff the field no matter how much and how badly Meunier plays.
 

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Klopp has certainly gotten criticism over his career for not rotating players. Not sure what the current narrative is. It helps when you actually have multiple dominant seasons in the Champions League or domestically to show for running your team into the ground, of course.



They have a deeper team than they've ever had. It's a lot deeper than even when Tuchel was manager. Passlack is the only one of those players who isn't in our top 10 most used players this season. The problem isn't that he rotated players; it's that he used the same players, and moved Can forward to a role where his bad passing is more of an issue, especially against a very defensive opponent where creativity is demanded. They actually have good and creative backups in these roles, but Favre didn't choose them today. Dahoud was rested. Morey can barely sniff the field no matter how much and how badly Meunier plays.

Not saying he's been perfect...as I too would like to see him use more aggressive lineups...just that it's weird to me that you guys place so much more blame at his feet than you do Sancho's when it's Sancho not being as good as he was last season that has you behind Bayern.

Even with Meunier & Can, that lineup had more than enough quality to breakdown Köln...despite not featuring a superstar like Kruse.
 
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Not saying he's been perfect...as I too would like to see him use more aggressive formations...just that it's weird to me that you guys place so much more blame at his feet than you do Sancho's when it's Sancho not being as good as he was last season that has you behind Bayern.

Even with Meunier & Can, that lineup had more than enough quality to breakdown Köln...despite not featuring a superstar like Kruse.

Probably because whatever mistakes someone thinks Favre is making, he has been making them for almost two and a half seasons, while Sancho's dip in form is newer, and the results aren't really that different than before. There have been plenty of matches - mostly in 18-19 - where Favre trotted out Witsel-Delaney and they really struggled to create sustained dangerous chances, and they dropped points slightly more often, which cost them in the end. These issues are a permanent feature, not a temporary drop like Sancho is experiencing.
 

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You had Sancho/Reus/Brandt/Haaland starting and you didn't have the creativity or skill to break down a bottom feeder like Cologne? Doubtful.

Dortmund simply lacked spark coming off a mid-week CL win and then having a shoo-in game that gets no-one's blood pressure up. It was a pretty classic story of Dortmund expecting the W to be handed to them, and Cologne working hard while getting some breaks on set pieces. It happens. Hell it almost happened to Bayern today as well.
 

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You had Sancho/Reus/Brandt/Haaland starting and you didn't have the creativity or skill to break down a bottom feeder like Cologne? Doubtful.

Dortmund simply lacked spark coming off a mid-week CL win and then having a shoo-in game that gets no-one's blood pressure up. It was a pretty classic story of Dortmund expecting the W to be handed to them, and Cologne working hard while getting some breaks on set pieces. It happens. Hell it almost happened to Bayern today as well.

That's what a shiny group of forwards with no midfield (and no full backs) to create openings for them often looks like, yes. In this case, the ball gets forced wide early in build up and then without creative full backs there is no way to create an advantage there either. You can argue the mid-week game angle, sure. This isn't a rare occurrence in this sport though. You see it when star forwards play with inferior midfielders on their national teams and mysteriously struggle, too. It's a weak link sport, not one where you can blow out a bad team every game because you have Haaland and they don't. Certainly not the one reason they lost though.
 

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