Prospect Info: General Prospect Discussion Thread 2020-21 - Part 2

[57special]

So, Iowa's defensive should be pretty good next year?
With the assumptions Addison and Menell are both back down there (huge if).

ROR and Hunt still have Junior eligibility left, and I would guess that Menell will demand a trade (and rightly so) if he isn't given an extended look. Don't see what more has to prove in the AHL- or the KHL, for that matter.

So no, the D won't be unusually strong unless there are some signings.

 

[ThatGuy22]

ROR and Hunt still have Junior eligibility left, and I would guess that Menell will demand a trade (and rightly so) if he isn't given an extended look. Don't see what more has to prove in the AHL- or the KHL, for that matter.

So no, the D won't be unusually strong unless there are some signings.

He probably wouldn't need to ask for a trade. Assuming Menell only signs a one year deal, he becomes a Group 6 UFA if he doesn't play 75 NHL games next season.

 

[2Pair]

He probably wouldn't need to ask for a trade. Assuming Menell only signs a one year deal, he becomes a Group 6 UFA if he doesn't play 75 NHL games next season.

He's also no longer exempt from waivers. Can't imagine that there isn't a team willing to give him a year in the NHL to see what he is.

 

[ThatGuy22]

He's also no longer exempt from waivers. Can't imagine that there isn't a team willing to give him a year in the NHL to see what he is.

Yep, you can pretty much pencil Mennell into the lineup next year. It's his sink or swim year.

 

[Slotski]

Yep, you can pretty much pencil Mennell into the lineup next year. It's his sink or swim year.

Guerin wasn't happy with his KHL decision. We're likely to find out how unhappy this off season.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Guerin wasn't happy with his KHL decision. We're likely to find out how unhappy this off season.

You'd certainly hope BG can be more mature than that. Especially as a former player who had a 2 month hold out over his RFA contract offers, he should be imminently familiar with a player's decision to do what's best for them.

 

[Slotski]

You'd certainly hope BG can be more mature than that. Especially as a former player who had a 2 month hold out over his RFA contract offers, he should be imminently familiar with a player's decision to do what's best for them.

True. But if Dumba doesn't get moved, you got a logjam of small RHD's (Spurgeon, Addison, Dumba).

 

[57special]

He probably wouldn't need to ask for a trade. Assuming Menell only signs a one year deal, he becomes a Group 6 UFA if he doesn't play 75 NHL games next season.

My point is that he would ask for a trade before the season if it becomes evident that he is not in our plans, or is behind Addison. At that point Guerin might decide to get something for him rather than nothing at the end of the year.

 

[MuckOG]

True. But if Dumba doesn't get moved, you got a logjam of small RHD's (Spurgeon, Addison, Dumba).

Dumba is probably as good as gone.

 

[57special]

You'd certainly hope BG can be more mature than that. Especially as a former player who had a 2 month hold out over his RFA contract offers, he should be imminently familiar with a player's decision to do what's best for them.

And he has to know that when Menell made his decision, the AHL wasn't a sure thing to even have a season. The D corps has been ridiculously healthy so far this year, so Guerin hasn't had to worry about depth, but at the beginning of the year he was looking at a #6D in Pateryn who had missed all sorts of time previously, and might've felt that he would need Menell during the season. You never know, but I would be very disappointed in Guerin if he held a grudge.

 

[MuckOG]

 

[MuckOG]

 

[57special]

Boldy with his usual calm, intelligent,game. He is very good below the end red line, even though they tend to play him on the R hash mark on the PP.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Seems damn near negligent to go into a playoff series you can win with a talent like Boldy in the AHL

 

[MuckOG]

Is there a reason why Boldy and Addison wouldn't be added to the playoff roster immediately after Iowa finishes up next week?

 

[57special]

Seems damn near negligent to go into a playoff series you can win with a talent like Boldy in the AHL

He's been really good in the AHL, but not dominant. It's asking a lot of him to come in cold with little to no practice and expect him to click with team mates. He seems to be more of a collaborative player than a one man show type. You would like him to come up and experience the playoff intensity from the sidelines, if nothing else though. I am looking forward to seeing what he can do next year in training camp and beyond.

It could be that the final game or two will mean nothing. Maybe he (and maybe Addison, Dewar, etc.) can come up and get a taste of the NHL.

 

[ThatGuy22]

He's been really good in the AHL, but not dominant. It's asking a lot of him to come in cold with little to no practice and expect him to click with team mates. He seems to be more of a collaborative player than a one man show type. You would like him to come up and experience the playoff intensity from the sidelines, if nothing else though. I am looking forward to seeing what he can do next year in training camp and beyond.

It could be that the final game or two will mean nothing. Maybe he (and maybe Addison, Dewar, etc.) can come up and get a taste of the NHL.

His peers(and some lessers) are up and making in impact. No reason to expect he can't do the same. He was a high pick for a reason.

 

[Minnewildsota]

For an organization that has notoriously rushed prospects, we seem to look the other way a lot. Let the kid season. there’s no reason to rush him into the fold. Let him master his game in the AHL.

If he makes next years team out of camp, great. If not, there’s no reason to force him into the lineup

 

[MuckOG]

For an organization that has notoriously rushed prospects, we seem to look the other way a lot. Let the kid season. there’s no reason to rush him into the fold. Let him master his game in the AHL.

If he makes next years team out of camp, great. If not, there’s no reason to force him into the lineup

So you wouldnt add Boldy or Addison to the playoff roster after Iowa's season ends next week? Just make them sit home and watch on tv?

 

[2Pair]

For an organization that has notoriously rushed prospects, we seem to look the other way a lot. Let the kid season. there’s no reason to rush him into the fold. Let him master his game in the AHL.

If he makes next years team out of camp, great. If not, there’s no reason to force him into the lineup

There's also zero reason to leave an NHL player in the AHL just because he's younger than the plugs on the current roster.

 

[grN1g]

Problem with just plopping boldy or Addison in is you're doing it in playoffs when you have multiple vets with exp.

Don't be disappointed when they don't get a game.

 

[Nsjohnson]

I say bring em up, even if they don't play. Maybe even, especially if they don't play. It's a gradient thing. Like, what is the lowest gradient of doing here, well it's not playing but practicing with the team and being with the team during the PO's. The next would be to get some limited minutes in a game and then probably sent back to the AHL. Then full on full time NHL time.

I say bring them up, if anything but to get them used to just participating in daily stuff during PO time. Make them hungry, and make them witness.

 

[2Pair]

Problem with just plopping boldy or Addison in is you're doing it in playoffs when you have multiple vets with exp.

Don't be disappointed when they don't get a game.

There's really no reason to even discuss Addison. The defense is set and healthy. The Wild have spent the entire season trying to find a guy to play opposite of Fiala. The guy that you would love to fill that role is ready for the NHL and you have 5 meaningless games on the schedule. This one isn't real hard to figure out

 

[MuckOG]

 

[Wild11MN]

17 goals in 20 games is awfully impressive. Still have decent hopes for him.