TV: Game of Thrones | Season 8 (Final) | Part XIII -TV talk ONLY -NO Books, Spoilers, NO LEAKS

[kihei]

Of the negative criticism I've read today, my favourite line is "The writers had a seven season lead and they blew it."

 

[Pilky01]

Brienne: I love you!

Jaime: I would rather die with the worst woman in the world than spend one more day with you.

 

[Beau Knows]

Welp, that was a crummy episode. Well made, well acted, but incredibly poorly written. Really dissapointing, this show deserved a great ending, and I don't think one more episode is going to drastically improve things now.

Say what you will about the writers of the show, but GRRM has to take a lot of the blame here. He assured HBO that he'd be done before they got to this point and they wouldn't have to write all this themselves. But I am really hoping GRRM finishes his books one day, I'd love to see what his ending would be. Not gonna even start them though until he is at least close to finishing the last book.

I will say though that everyone saying this season "ruins the show" is being overly dramatic. The first 7 seasons aren't going anywhere, seasons 3-4 in particular are brillant - regardless of what came after. I know I'll be watching episodes of this show for years to come.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Sure. But didn’t the one dragon get hit and live? Seems kinda weird that a random guy in an anticlimactic battle would just
Pick off a dragon.

Also agreed on Cersei having the kingdom literally crush her. I can see that. But i thought there was the prophecy where she gets strangled by her little brother?

When the roof collapses on them, Jaime is embracing Cersei with his arm wrapped around her neck. Sounds like a stranglin to me.

Is it a stretch? Yes. Is it nonsensical? yes. Is it overreading a minor occurrence to try to and rationalize a prophecy? Yes.

 

[Viggo Mortensen]

Yet here you are, potentially ruining it for people that did in fact read the article already.

I can remove my comment if you feel it does more harm than good. I felt like people read the full thread here before reading articles posted.

 

[kingsfan28]

As the click bait media gets worse, youtubers get more successful.

If I search GOT on youtube right now, I bet the top vids would be spoiler/"speculation" vids about the finale or why ep. 5 was the worst episode of GOT ever.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Welp, that was a crummy episode. Well made, well acted, but incredibly poorly written. Really dissapointing, this show deserved a great ending, and I don't think one more episode is going to drastically improve things now.

Say what you will about the writers of the show, but GRRM has to take a lot of the blame here. He assured HBO that he'd be done before they got to this point and they wouldn't have to write all this themselves. But I am really hoping GRRM finishes his books one day, I'd love to see what his ending would be. Not gonna even start them though until he is at least close to finishing the last book.

I will say though that everyone saying this season "ruins the show" is being overly dramatic. The first 7 seasons aren't going anywhere, seasons 3-4 in particular are brillant - regardless of what came after. I know I'll be watching episodes of this show for years to come.

For me how a show ends directly impacts my desire to rewatch. If GOT ends poorly I’ll never watch an episode again.

 

[Beau Knows]

For me how a show ends directly impacts my desire to rewatch. If GOT ends poorly I’ll never watch an episode again.

Fair enough, I don't feel the same way personally.

The prequels didn't ruin the original Star Wars trilogy for me. Godfather 3 didn't ruin the first 2.

 

[Emperoreddy]

There is, but the show kind of picks and chooses which prophecies they use. Although I don't remember, during that scene in the show where she went to see the woods witch, did they mention the brother part of the prophecy?

No thst was cut. People upset they didn’t fulfill book prophecies should never have whole sale transferred the stuff that was cut into the show. It was cut for a reason.

 

[bleedblue1223]

If I search GOT on youtube right now, I bet the top vids would be spoiler/"speculation" vids about the finale or why ep. 5 was the worst episode of GOT ever.

Not saying it's quality content, just that quantity of videos and views go up.

 

[kingsfan28]

Not saying it's quality content, just that quantity of videos and views go up.

oh for sure.

 

[Daisy Jane]

The Irony.

Ned: take your children, sail to Pentos, have a life.
Cersei: when you play the game of thrones, you win, or you die.

and Cersei and Jaime die - doing what Cersei should have done many moons ago. the lives that would have been spared.

 

[kihei]

Brienne: I love you!

Jaime: I would rather die with the worst woman in the world than spend one more day with you.

The things we do for love.

 

[Daisy Jane]

The things we do for love.

nobody else matters.

 

[tarheelhockey]

The Irony.

Ned: take your children, sail to Pentos, have a life.
Cersei: when you play the game of thrones, you win, or you die.

and Cersei and Jaime die - doing what Cersei should have done many moons ago. the lives that would have been spared.

Not to mention that “take your children, sail to Pentos” is a description of how we ended up with Viserys and Dany running around Essos in the first place.

The book hammers at Dany’s connections to that city more heavily, but suffice it to say even in the TV series she could very easily have had a life in Pentos. She passed on that because of what she felt was denied her in Westeros by people she’d never even met.

 

[The Drop]

Anyone think Bran sent that horse for Arya?

I’m hoping he has SOME use in the finale.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Anyone think Bran sent that horse for Arya?

I’m hoping he has SOME use in the finale.

I don’t think so, but I do agree he has to do something in the finalie. He is the most worthless major character in the story right now.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

Anyone think Bran sent that horse for Arya?

I’m hoping he has SOME use in the finale.

i thought the horse was death, and that's jon's big motivation to kill Dany, but then i realized they didn't spell it out to us repeatedly in the previous episode soo.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I really liked Jamie and Tyrion’s farewell. It gets lost in all the ash that follows, but it was a well done exchange.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

ghost is overrated.

he's not even in my top 5 direwolves TBH

 

[The Kingslayer]

I really liked Jamie and Tyrion’s farewell. It gets lost in all the ash that follows, but it was a well done exchange.

I was feeling some type of way in that scene. You can tell Tyrion loves his big brother more than anyone.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I really liked Jamie and Tyrion’s farewell. It gets lost in all the ash that follows, but it was a well done exchange.

I was feeling some type of way in that scene. You can tell Tyrion loves his big brother more than anyone.

 

[Speyer]

Is Khal Drogo insane? He wouldn't think twice about razing a city and enslaving/killing their population, with much more rape and looting to go along with it. For a historical example, is Genghis Khan or any of his successors insane? They are responsible for tens of millions of deaths, often mass executions in captured cities. It's an absurd trope that violent people must be mentally ill and pollutes the public discourse around it because people start assuming people with mental illnesses are violent. I think she did what she did because she thought it was the correct course of action, I'm very sure anger and paranoia helped drive that decision, but I don't think she has completely lost it like her father did.

Drogo had a whole other upbringig and set of values than Dany though. Dany from a few Seasons ago went out of her way to stay in Mereen to free the slaves. She occasionaly killed some people to set an example but never any kids or innocents. Its not her behavior itself that makes her insane but the complete U-turn of her actions. You also mentioned Genghis Khan and no he wasnt insane because his brutality had the ultimate goal to cause fear and convince other peoples to surrender and pay tributes to him. But I doubt he would have burnt one of the most profitable cities of the world completly to the ground. Thats just bad business. Dany on the other hand is not driven by such considerations but only by her desire of venegance. There are also a whole bunch of scenes earlier in the episode an even during the battle that clearly indicate that she isnt well psychologically.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I would laugh my ass off if Dany walks out next week and tries to blame this all on Sansa.

 

[Psyfer]