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GDT: Game 65: Red Wings vs yotes 7:00 pm et 3/14/24 (ESPN+, BSD)
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Realgud
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Well funny you say that, many advanced stats nerds said the Red Wings weren't nearly as good as they showed and had been outscoring a lot of their underlying issues.
Not saying I agree or not, just saying that to some people there definitely were some indications.
Yeah, Lyon stopped playing in GOD mode. When he took over he was making critical outstanding saves on plays the other goalies could not stop. Now he is not making those critical saves and even letting in some weak ones in. Basically he was covering up our defensive flaws but not anymore.
DamonDRW
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That might indeed be the reason. That's why you need to be strong at two out of three positions: defense, offense and goaltending.
ricky0034
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probably not as much as you'd think between his full NTC and the big commitment his long term deal represents
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Henkka
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The death of offence has just been unbelieveable.
Never seen anything like this scale of sudden change with any team ever in hockey.
Never seen anything like this scale of sudden change with any team ever in hockey.
Some of us were posting all game.
I don't know what exactly combined to get them to this collapse, and I'm certainly not enjoying it, but this is the same bench - and behind it - that got them seriously close to 3rd place in the East, and beat or held tough against the best the NHL had to offer on many occasions.
Is it any more complicated than a worn-out Lyon and Reimer being garbage most of his minutes in net, plus Larks going down? I don't know. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. I know I don't like it, but I'm not ready to rain down fire and brimstone yet either.
Henkka
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It definitely is something more.
Every single player regressed to a TANK level in a one week, except Raymond.
Lyon played great in January, that gave the team confidence and then the team started playing great and dismantled some of the opponenta and then they became overconfident. Then the loss of Larkin and Lyon playing average and even some soft goals and here we are.
Our forwards are bad in both the offensive and defensive zone.
This team is a country club 10 times more than it ever was under Lewis.
The amount of chances they are missing is insane, specially DeBrincat.
And Chiarot. And Seider.
CanadaIsIrrelevant
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Indrid Cold
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They get whichever of our 1st rounders we want to give them.
MIght just be all this team had in it this year. Might be the increasing weight of expectations. Might be injuries. Who knows. Missing the playoffs this season isn't the disappointment, though. It's how they're pissing it away.
Why would they need to hitch to next season when we already have a logjam? It’s time to trim the fat/prospects not add more.
Roslovic isn’t great, but would have helped the team more than some of the garbage were icing right now with Larkins injury
Jake Allen was had for a 3rd, and is infinitely better than Reimer and would be able to give Lyon, who is clearly gassed, an actual break
If Yzerman refuses to bring up Ed, any of Miller, Dumba, Johnson are an improvement over half our D.
And that’s ignoring the players who weren’t traded at all.
GMR
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If this was soccer, we could loan Raymond to a playoff team where he can get some experience. I wouldn’t blame he or Seider if they wanted to play for an actual contender.
On to next year. Not a lot Lalonde can do if Yzerman isn't going to have the best players available on the roster.
PelagicJoe
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The guys he drafted. Have to eventually take their spots. The way we should look at it as fans is prospect a and b have to beat out Chariot. Trust me when they are ready he will have no problem dropping that oversized pleb for one our draftees. He's not doing it for an incomplete player though. If Ed was ready he would be here. Example : Seider.
Lol
Henkka
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Arizona was by far the NHL-worst team from last 25 games.
And they did lose them twice, without getting a single point.
At earlier in the season, San Jose was NHL-worst team and they lost for them. Then they lost for Montreal. Abysmal Ottawa was hard to beat.
On December, Anaheim was probably the NHL-worst team and they lost for them at home.
Where does that arrogance come from?
It's OK for me if you lose for strong teams, and surprise some of them, here and there at this point of era, when you are not a real contender. Real contenders lose too for poor teams, because they are so good that they can play with the result in non-interesting games.
But for this team...? Which is battling for the playoffs and those easiest points should be easiest to take, just doing your job well.
It doesn't take anything else. Something is mentally wrong.
And they did lose them twice, without getting a single point.
At earlier in the season, San Jose was NHL-worst team and they lost for them. Then they lost for Montreal. Abysmal Ottawa was hard to beat.
On December, Anaheim was probably the NHL-worst team and they lost for them at home.
Where does that arrogance come from?
It's OK for me if you lose for strong teams, and surprise some of them, here and there at this point of era, when you are not a real contender. Real contenders lose too for poor teams, because they are so good that they can play with the result in non-interesting games.
But for this team...? Which is battling for the playoffs and those easiest points should be easiest to take, just doing your job well.
It doesn't take anything else. Something is mentally wrong.
JediOrderPizza
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Oh man waking up and the first thought being oh yeah they lost to the yotes again. f***ing up my morning as well, thanks wings!
Someone in here changed their underwear either on 28th or 29th of February. You know who you are!
so he should have sold?
traded Perron and Ghost and Fischer and Kane for picks?
By not making any adds, even the 2nd or 3rd tier guys, at the TDL, SY exactly like I said would happen told the team forget it...I don't believe in you
I said he needed to throw them a bone to reward them for how they "had" played..ideally a medium term asset but something needed to be done
Locker rooms are a funny environment..even pro millionaire athletes...Doing nothing, whether right or wrong in the longterm, has a lot to do with where we're today...the message was clear and the reaction, 100% predictable.
Hopefully inside that locker room theirs enough pride to say screw what SY thinks, we're doing this ourselves..
I said he needed to throw them a bone to reward them for how they "had" played..ideally a medium term asset but something needed to be done
Locker rooms are a funny environment..even pro millionaire athletes...Doing nothing, whether right or wrong in the longterm, has a lot to do with where we're today...the message was clear and the reaction, 100% predictable.
Hopefully inside that locker room theirs enough pride to say screw what SY thinks, we're doing this ourselves..
