GDT: [Game #6] Dallas Stars @ Columbus Blue Jackets - 6:00 PM CT (BS-SW)

[MrHeiskanen]

Razor making excuses. Yes Comeau is going to save this team lol

Seriously I don't get the fan-fare for this idiot, he is so stupid and says the dumbest stuff its mind boggling.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

But honestly who'd a though this team would be struggling to score after adding offensive dynamos like Michael Raffl, Luke Glendending and Ryan Suter.
I mean you'd almost need a goddamn crystal ball and some sacrificial goats to come up with something so crazy

Adding Seguin and Radulov was supposed to help, plus Robertson wasn't supposed to be MIA...

 

[Kcb12345]

I'm not convinced Comeau should even crack this lineup lol. The guys who he would realistically replace have all been mostly fine

 

[Troy McClure]

Seriously I don't get the fan-fare for this idiot, he is so stupid and says the dumbest stuff its mind boggling.

He’s a fun analyst to have when the team is winning.

But there’s no team-employed analyst who is fun to listen to when the team is losing.

 

[ugrakarma]

Mao and his long march meh. We have the 2021/2022 Stars. Good night.

 

[M88K]

Adding Seguin and Radulov was supposed to help, plus Robertson wasn't supposed to be MIA...

Sure, what could go wrong relying on 2 guys who just missed all of last season with surgeries. Never mind that the team has struggled to score since Monty came into the fold and it's only gotten worse.

 

[ElGuapo]

He’s a fun analyst to have when the team is winning.

But there’s no team-employed analyst who is fun to listen to when the team is losing.

Yes. He says that stuff because he has to say something. It would be dumb of him to go ranting about how much the team sucks. He's their employee not a neutral analyst.

 

[Troy McClure]

Sure, what could go wrong relying on 2 guys who just missed all of last season with surgeries. Never mind that the team has struggled to score since Monty came into the fold and it's only gotten worse.

As much as I’m eager to blame coaching for a lot, the slump in scoring also lines up with Benn and Seguin breaking down.

 

[M88K]

As much as I’m eager to blame coaching for a lot, the slump in scoring also lines up with Benn and Seguin breaking down.

Seguin was a 40g scorer under hitch. (played all 82)
Scored 80p under Monty (played all 82) <---Team couldn't score for shit (28 out of 31)
Played in all 69games only 50p <---- team scored at a whole .03 higher rate than previous year (26th)

Monty was the one that instituted this dumb system.
Yes injuries have compiled onto it. But the scoring dried up because of Monty's system


edit seriously hate this site in mobile

 

[Troy McClure]

Adding Seguin and Radulov was supposed to help, plus Robertson wasn't supposed to be MIA...

There was also the hope that this veteran group would look better getting back to a normal schedule versus the brutal four games a weak their covid/power outage reshuffling created. A guy like Benn who needs maintenance days should theoretically look better with more time off, but he’s also a year older. This normal schedule isn’t helping the vets have better legs.

 

[Captain Awesome]

That is less 5 v 5 goals than Alex Ovechkin, who has 6 in the same amount of games I believe.

Also, the Stars, Hawks, Lightning (!), and Coyotes are the only four teams without a regulation win.

 

[Troy McClure]

Seguin was a 40g scorer under hitch. (played all 82)
Scored 80p under Monty (played all 82) <---Team couldn't score for shit (28 out of 31)
Played in all 69games only 50p <---- team scored at a whole .03 higher rate than previous year (26th)

Monty was the one that instituted this dumb system.
Yes injuries have compiled onto it. But the scoring dried up because of Monty's system


edit seriously hate this site in mobile

Here's my preferred way to look at it. Just a flat look at where they finished on the scoring list. I like this because the league started seeing an overall increase in scoring the year Monty took over, so while Seguin did score two more points the season Monty took over versus his season under Hitch, he fell in the overall scoring list because others in the league also scored more. Benn's drop off has been far more dramatic, but the decline for Seguin is real and started a few seasons ago.

	Ruff	Ruff	Hitch	Monty	Monty/Bones	Bones
	15-16	16-17	17-18	18-19	19-20	20-covid
Benn	2nd	22nd	22nd	94th	143rd	101st
Seguin	14th	15th	24th	28th	69th	N/A

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

These aren't advanced stats.

 

[Captain Awesome]

Klingberg declaring war on dump and chase. If this were any other sport, I wouldn't make much of it, but I think the players may be as sick of it as we are. Klingberg has always been particularly outspoken, though.

 

[M88K]

Klingberg declaring war on dump and chase. If this were any other sport, I wouldn't make much of it, but I think the players may be as sick of it as we are. Klingberg has always been particularly outspoken, though.

Sign him for 4m as a player and 5m as a coach. Problem solved

 

[Captain Awesome]

Here's my preferred way to look at it. Just a flat look at where they finished on the scoring list. I like this because the league started seeing an overall increase in scoring the year Monty took over, so while Seguin did score two more points the season Monty took over versus his season under Hitch, he fell in the overall scoring list because others in the league also scored more. Benn's drop off has been far more dramatic, but the decline for Seguin is real and started a few seasons ago.

	Ruff	Ruff	Hitch	Monty	Monty/Bones	Bones
	15-16	16-17	17-18	18-19	19-20	20-covid
Benn	2nd	22nd	22nd	94th	143rd	101st
Seguin	14th	15th	24th	28th	69th	N/A

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

These aren't advanced stats.

This is a little too messy for my liking, because injuries are going to impact this stuff. I'd probably rather look at points/60 and exclude players under a certain minutes threshold (everyone >500 mins, as an example) and rank by that. At least it does a decent effort of minimizing games played as a big factor and still keeps in mind that point rates change. It also factors in efficiency.

 

[MoeBartoli]

 

[Captain Awesome]

I saw this, f*** that guy, I hope Elvis makes it his personal mission to get his ass banned from watching hockey games.

 

[DieselPig]

If we have a losing season and are out of it by the trade deadline, it might be a blessing in disguise. We could load up a lot of picks/assets for our pending UFAs.

… but knowing this organization we’ll stay in the hunt right until the end, miss playoffs by a few points, lose our pending UFAs for nothing, draft 13th overall. C’est la vie.

 

[M88K]

It's shitty and all but it's not like every fan base doesn't have assholes.

 

[Kcb12345]

Jeez, Bowness really does hate Kiviranta. 7:36 tonight. I'd imagine he is the guy who comes out for Comeau yikes

I haven't even noticed him playing bad or anything, he looks decent out there

 

[ElGuapo]

It's shitty and all but it's not like every fan base doesn't have assholes.

And f*** Portzline for trying to insinuate that some rando f***face represents #TexasHockey. Also f*** the new hashtag #TexasHockey because it makes me think of the Texas Stars not the Dallas Stars. Since I'm ranting, calling your minor league team the Texas Stars was stupid. Should have just called them the Cedar Park Stars.

 

[Troy McClure]

If we have a losing season and are out of it by the trade deadline, it might be a blessing in disguise. We could load up a lot of picks/assets for our pending UFAs.

… but knowing this organization we’ll stay in the hunt right until the end, miss playoffs by a few points, lose our pending UFAs for nothing, draft 13th overall. C’est la vie.

If Radulov and Pavelski don't pick things up, then selling them at the deadline might not be an option.

 

[Spotty 2 Hotty]

Jeez, Bowness really does hate Kiviranta. 7:36 tonight. I'd imagine he is the guy who comes out for Comeau yikes

I haven't even noticed him playing bad or anything, he looks decent out there

Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna pretend like Kiviranta should be getting 15-20 minutes a night, but he's only gotten like 11 minutes between the last two games combined and is the lowest TOI/G forward on the entire team; just behind Kero and Gurianov.

 

[Kcb12345]

If Radulov and Pavelski don't pick things up, then selling them at the deadline might not be an option.

There will 100% be a market for Pavelski. Only thing holding him back right now from producing is the team imo he's still got it, and teams will be lining up to get him for the playoffs I'd imagine

 

[Satan]

Jeez, Bowness really does hate Kiviranta. 7:36 tonight. I'd imagine he is the guy who comes out for Comeau yikes

I haven't even noticed him playing bad or anything, he looks decent out there

He's a guy. Doesn't excel offensively or defensively. This team has bigger problems.