GDT: Game # 51 Rangers vs Islanders - 7pm EST - MSG

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    Coaches always try to win in every sport.

    If management is telling him otherwise and he's not following their orders he'll be canned before next season. If he's still here, management will have had no big problem with the way he coached.
     
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    Good luck with that phone call.
     
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    Teams that don't buy in, don't try. This team tries but isn't good enough, yet.

    Specifically, which players aren't buying in and how do you determine it?
     
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    I expect the team to take a major step forward next season, no matter who the coach is. If it's Quinn, it guarantees him another year, but in the NHL, one bad season can torpedo any coach. Everything is year-to-year.
     
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    i think the Rangers will be at times a dynamic offensive team for a full schedule yet will be a quick playoff exit unless they add grit.

    I think the coach gets a year. Highly doubt he’s long term meaning 3 years.
     
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    If Quinn is here longer than next year, it's because he had an epiphany and learned/grew into being a good NHL x's o's coach. It's possible but not with Brown and Oliver behind him. He needs NHL experience to help him on everything offense.

    The entire coaching staff was for developing. Ok, good. Is it possible to get a coaching staff that can do both? Is that too much to ask for the richest team in the league?

    I will manifest it into existence. Rob Brind'Amour.
     
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    If Quinn makes it to next season, I believe that will put him past the average tenure of an NHL coach.

    If management thinks the team has a chance to win it come playoff time next season, they'll most likely add grit. That seems to be the way the league works.

    I still think they need to get a couple more fast players.
     
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    Brind'Amour is being extended in Carolina.

    How do you determine x's o's coaching ability by watching on television?

    Lundqvist replacing Hajek and the natural progression of the kids will make the team look much better next season.
     
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    Now, once and for all
    sit then trade excess vets
    ideally Strome for 1st/+ -- SEA [later and protected] or other
    ideally Buch for 1st + = CAR 2022 1st + Drury


    play kids as per bern suggested lines

    Prep for next season
    Kakko-Krav-Panarin
    LaF-Chytil-Gauthier

    IF we can go only 2 yrs term, no more, no nmc
    THEN Danault 2 yrs at 7.25 per which looks like $ he takes.

    Move Zib to RW [where have we heard that before?].

    Kreider - Danault - Zib

    Danault, active Gauthier will lend more jam

    then 4th line
    Cuylie - Barron - Gettinger

    spares: Blackwell, Rooney

    LD
    KAM
    move Lindgren who I love but sell high, get ahead of cap
    replace w/Robertson for toughness
    give mins to Jones, whether we keep or deal, he can't go down to the A.

    Reunanen = relief LD unless dealt


    RD
    Fox
    Nils L
    Trouba
    play Schneider in the A to max his mins,
    following season
    split time Schneid + Trouba give JT a signal he will be moved, maybe he relents a little early if we work hard to accommodate this preferred choice of relocation

    Shesty
    lean deal Geo and give his mins to emerging, but flexible there

    important we max our situation
    Krav at C
    do not waste Gauthier
    etc

    therefore
    fire Quinn

    lean to deal Zib at TDL
    take futures, be patient, draft well
    don't force opportunity not there but seize it when it appears
     
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    The key here is the Quinn has met expectations set given the roster provided in each season since he became the head coach. Obviously the expectations will be higher next year but I won't project at this point that Quinn will fail and therefore replaced. We need to remember that Quinn also came in as a rookie NHL head coach and, similar to prospects, has been getting better at what he's doing compared to prior years.
     
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    That was one f***ing SICK must win game
     
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    I know this team aint that great but 6-1 and 4-0 come on
     
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    The Rangers wouldn't be the only team that would struggle against this style and this roster the Rangers faced last night. Though losing Lee is a huge blow to them if the expectation are to come out of the division.
     
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    @Machinehead is out here writing poems for f*cks sake.

    Can it just be October please.
     
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    Specific to the 4th line - I might be wrong but I thought by putting our 4th line to start against Isles' Quinn simply tried to create a more favorable line matching elsewhere.
     
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    oh yeah, despite the talented forwards they appear to all cruise at the same MPH. Can make it a bit easier for opponents to defend. A few faster skaters can open up the ice.
     
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    Rangers legs dont move. They also just play too mich east west against the isles.


    U need to keep lmoving and keep attacking against them.

    give credit to the isles. They hustle their ass off. We dont.

    and i hatw our fall back and collapse system. We never pressure the puck carrier.
     
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    I feel like with this year's versions of the Rangers and Isles, the styles are so diametrically opposed that one side tends to dominate and the Isles are much, much better at executing their style than we are. They are by far the last team I would want this team to face in a playoff series.
     
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    Quinn was brought in to develop the kids and let them progress. We are seeing that with most of the kids who are making progress and taking steps forward, but when the time comes for them to be a playoff team he is not the right coach for that, imo.

    Quinn has does his job to an extend but he is still an inexperienced NHL coach and this roster is still very young. I did not expect the Rangers to be guaranteed a playoff spot this year, and felt they have come out where I expected, right on the bubble of a playoff spot, and several games above .500.

    I think people are overreacting and getting upset over a team that has made progress especially with their young players.
     
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    Yes. Hugely disappointed in the lack of spirit. Aside from a couple guys, like Smith. He has really stepped it up this year.

    (Admittedly it seems like he kicks some butt in contract years...)
     
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    Thats as clear as day, but its not even competitive hockey from the most important players at the most important juncture.

    I personally cannot waive that off
     
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    I feel torn on this issue.

    A bit part of me wants to see our top guns rise to the occasion in big games, and we have guys who cast doubt on that ability.

    But there's also a part of me that thinks that while we wish most loses look better, they typically don't. That's kind of why you lose the game in the first place.

    Sometimes you have those really competitive, heart-breaking games you lose 3-2 or 2-1. But more often than not, even really good teams often look bad in losses. As you work your way down from the top of the standings, the losses often (but not always) look worse.
     
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    What do you suggest?

    Should we trade Fox, Panarin, Zib, Laf etc,.?

    Those are our best players.
     
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    Which players didn't hustle?
     
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    What happened to our amazing defensive structure when we couldn't score for shit earlier this year? Martin for HC was the word on the street. Buffalo, NJ, the Isles, they've all had their way through the NZ and in our zone. It was only a matter of Shesty standing on his head for the most part covering the structural warts. Last night the Isles barely had to dump it in, they gained our zone with possession and speed and won like 70%+ of the puck battles, and 1000000% of the faceoffs. Joe kept mentioning too much stick checking, which explains puck battles, but them flying through the NZ time after time speaks to a larger defensive structural issue.

    Bring back Knoblauch (kidding....kinda)
     
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