GDT: Game 35: Red Wings at wild 8:00 pm et 12/27/23 (ESPN+, BSD)

[Steve Yzerlland]

Seriously all I got is ths Detroit Lions please don't break my heart

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Us taking stock of our team right now

 

[DanielMarois]

If Montreal wins tomorrow the Wings will be in the bottom 10 of the league

 

[RedHawkDown]

Hope they lose as much as possible over this next stretch. Celebrini would be nice.

 

[FabricDetails]

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At some point they're going to show some kind of counter game plan to how teams have figured them out... Right? Buzz? Uncle Frank? Uncle Frank is this a joke?

 

[datsyukfan]

Where's the team grit? Who sets the tone that we're going to be tough to play against?

Nobody, they don’t have anyone that sets the tone

 

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Seriously all I got is ths Detroit Lions please don't break my heart

Don’t do it to yourself. I’m warning you.

 

[saska sault]

Seriously all I got is ths Detroit Lions please don't break my heart

Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes have done something to the Pistons and the Wings... hope no one is a Tigers fan.

 

[lilidk]

Hope they lose as much as possible over this next stretch. Celebrini would be nice.

Celebrini will be in Chicago

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

They are underperforming at the moment, but we have been seeing the exact same issues every season. Unforced turnovers in their own zone, coughing up the puck from the forecheck, and giving teams extended time in their own zone. The defense is just really bad at defense.

But to me, that's a coaching issue. Those are system problems that a good coach can address.

My personal suspicion is this team has some weird square peg/round hole type issues where the coaching staff wants them to play defensively, but that is just not the player group's game. And after that not working for a while, it's come to a head, where the players aren't really playing the system, and the coaches can't really help. So now it's all on talent every game, with no help from a system. They just score as much as they can and hope it's enough.

 

[Holden Caufield]

Didn’t catch this one (probably a good thing).

Fabbri, Compher, Raymond line was -4 and pretty much no other forwards were in the negative ? We’re they that bad ??

 

[WingedWheel1987]

But to me, that's a coaching issue. Those are system problems that a good coach can address.

My personal suspicion is this team has some weird square peg/round hole type issues where the coaching staff wants them to play defensively, but that is just not the player group's game. And after that not working for a while, it's come to a head, where the players aren't really playing the system, and the coaches can't really help.

I thought Holland was a complete moron during his last five years managing the roster, so I could see him missing something like that. However, I don't think Yzerman would let that go unnoticed.

Didn’t catch this one (probably a good thing).

Fabbri, Compher, Raymond line was -4 and pretty much no other forwards were in the negative ? We’re they that bad ??

Yes.

 

[ShanahanMan]

Welp, that looks like the season boys.

Can’t wait to tank for a pick just for Draper to waste on some guy projected at 35 but has “good hockey iq”.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Celebrini will be in Chicago

IIRC Chicago can't draft 1OA again due to lottery changes.

They will get 1OA again as soon as possible, though.

 

[datsyukfan]

Didn’t catch this one (probably a good thing).

Fabbri, Compher, Raymond line was -4 and pretty much no other forwards were in the negative ? Were they that bad ??

Raymond was awful, Fabbri was decent early but then f***ing soft the last half of game, Compher was fine just unfortunate to play with those 2

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Welp, that looks like the season boys.

Can’t wait to tank for a pick just for Draper to waste on some guy projected at 35 but has “good hockey iq”.

Well it will help with the rebuild of the rebuild of the rebuild....

 

[Ezekial]

IIRC Chicago can't draft 1OA again due to lottery changes.

They will get 1OA again as soon as possible, though.

They can get it again. You can move up twice in a 5 year period.

I think technically they could get a 3rd if they are the worst team and a team that can't move up to 1 wins the lottery.

 

[WingFanSD]

fabbri is useless and raymond is about in that territory almost.

 

[nbwingsfan]

So when the hell does Yzerman wake up and actually address the goaltending and defensive issues? This season is going to hell FAST

 

[SoupGuru]

But to me, that's a coaching issue. Those are system problems that a good coach can address.

My personal suspicion is this team has some weird square peg/round hole type issues where the coaching staff wants them to play defensively, but that is just not the player group's game. And after that not working for a while, it's come to a head, where the players aren't really playing the system, and the coaches can't really help. So now it's all on talent every game, with no help from a system. They just score as much as they can and hope it's enough.

How is that a coaching issue? Isn't that a player leadership issue?

Coaches: here's a winning game plan
Bad player leadership: I'm not so sure, I think we'll just do our own thing instead.
Good player leadership: let's f***ing go get em boys. Anyone slacking is going to get his ass chewed and sit next to the bathroom on the flight back.

 

[jaster]

If Montreal wins tomorrow the Wings will be in the bottom 10 of the league

By point %, they're already there. 10th worst team in the league.

 

[FMichael]

Watching the Jets/Hawks game.

Gotta admire the Jets in that they lose some key players, but manage to fill the holes with quality replacements.

 

[saska sault]

Watching the Jets/Hawks game.

Gotta admire the Jets in that they lose some key players, but manage to fill the holes with quality replacements.

And players that play with purpose and consistent effort and coaches who provide structure. Wouldn't that be something to watch in Detroit again.

 

[FMichael]

How is that a coaching issue? Isn't that a player leadership issue?

Coaches: here's a winning game plan
Bad player leadership: I'm not so sure, I think we'll just do our own thing instead.
Good player leadership: let's f***ing go get em boys. Anyone slacking is going to get his ass chewed and sit next to the bathroom on the flight back.

This team needs an 'old school' type behind the bench.

I don't care if he hurts the players feelings...I want them to play a system in which they win games.

 

[datsyukfan]

How is that a coaching issue? Isn't that a player leadership issue?

Coaches: here's a winning game plan
Bad player leadership: I'm not so sure, I think we'll just do our own thing instead.
Good player leadership: let's f***ing go get em boys. Anyone slacking is going to get his ass chewed and sit next to the bathroom on the flight back.

Good coach: players don’t execute the o plan, players ice time is cut