GDT: Game 16| Detroit Red Wings at Winnipeg Jets | November 4, 2013, 8:00 PM. | FSD

[InjuredChoker]

Ken Wiebe ‏@WiebeSunSports 47 min
Al Montoya leaves the ice first for #NHLJets and that's usually an indication he will start in goal vs #RedWings

 

[BF3]

Babcock said heavy or some variation of it 3 times in 2 sentences.

Really, Tatar doesn't need to be the Blob to stay in the lineup, he just needs to make plays. Is there a +/- heavy stat I am missing?

It's like when broadcasters make a comment about hits like it means anything at all.

Any word on the lines? Hoping for Franzen on the 2nd line, Cleary on the 4th, Sammy sitting. That's probably too much to ask for.

 

[crashman]

Babcock said heavy or some variation of it 3 times in 2 sentences.

Really, Tatar doesn't need to be the Blob to stay in the lineup, he just needs to make plays. Is there a +/- heavy stat I am missing?

It's like when broadcasters make a comment about hits like it means anything at all.

Any word on the lines? Hoping for Franzen on the 2nd line, Cleary on the 4th, Sammy sitting. That's probably too much to ask for.

Babcock knows Tatar should be in the lineup every night, he's just saying this nonsense to make it seem like there was a legit reason why he wasn't playing since the start of the season.

 

[sully6one]

Babcock said heavy or some variation of it 3 times in 2 sentences.

Really, Tatar doesn't need to be the Blob to stay in the lineup, he just needs to make plays. Is there a +/- heavy stat I am missing?

It's like when broadcasters make a comment about hits like it means anything at all.

Any word on the lines? Hoping for Franzen on the 2nd line, Cleary on the 4th, Sammy sitting. That's probably too much to ask for.

It's the following

40-13-44
71-90-11
21-18-8
20-43-22

 

[KJoe88]

So with Kane possibly out and Montoya in net there's no reason not to get a win.

A point will even suffice for me.

 

[skinneh]

It's the following

40-13-44
71-90-11
21-18-8
20-43-22

No Franzen!? I like our chances then!!

 

[probertrules24]

It's the following

40-13-44
71-90-11
21-18-8
20-43-22

I like the 4th line. Lots of speed on the forecheck in Helm and Tootoo.

 

[opivy]

It's the following

40-13-44
71-90-11
21-18-8
20-43-22

Lines look intriguing.

2nd and 4th lines just don't look heavy enough.

Jokes aside, I wish 21 and 71 were swapped. This just looks like two 4th lines, a 3rd line and a really good 1st line. Swap out Tats and Cleary and it looks like two legitimate scoring lines, and two 4th lines.

 

[Kronwalled55]

So with Kane possibly out and Montoya in net there's no reason not to get a win.

A point will even suffice for me.

From the sounds of it, Montoya is better than Pavelec

 

[KJoe88]

From the sounds of it, Montoya is better than Pavelec

Well, umm, either way our offense shouldn't struggle tonight.

I hope line three can continue a good pace. I expect Tatar to have another solid game.

 

[probertrules24]

Lines look intriguing.

2nd and 4th lines just don't look heavy enough.

Jokes aside, I wish 21 and 71 were swapped. This just looks like two 4th lines, a 3rd line and a really good 1st line. Swap out Tats and Cleary and it looks like two legitimate scoring lines, and two 4th lines.

Opivy keep calm and ***** ** you know the rest.

 

[Kronwalled55]

Height is probably the most overvalued trait in players today.

This is a league where a 5'8 player just won the Art Ross, and the last 2 Norris winners were 6'0. It really isn't a be-all/end-all.

Towards any knocks on Almqvist. He should be fine. (Not Norris standards clearly, but you get the point.)

 

[SoupNazi]

Khan:

Wings lines at skate: 40-13-44, 71-90-11, 8-18-21, 20-43-22. On D, Almquist paired with Quincey, Kronwall-DeKeyser, Lashoff-Kindl.


Almquist playing the right point on second power play unit, Kindl at other point. Weiss, Cleary and Tatar up front.

Franzen is skating but won't play tonight.

 

[Hammettf2b]

Lines look intriguing.

2nd and 4th lines just don't look heavy enough.

Jokes aside, I wish 21 and 71 were swapped. This just looks like two 4th lines, a 3rd line and a really good 1st line. Swap out Tats and Cleary and it looks like two legitimate scoring lines, and two 4th lines.

Normally I would agree, but I feel this gives us 3 solid scoring lines instead of 2.

 

[sully6one]

Helene said Almqvist is with Lashoff

 

[Vladdy84]

Khan:

Wings lines at skate: 40-13-44, 71-90-11, 8-18-21, 20-43-22. On D, Almquist paired with Quincey, Kronwall-DeKeyser, Lashoff-Kindl.


Almquist playing the right point on second power play unit, Kindl at other point. Weiss, Cleary and Tatar up front.

Franzen is skating but won't play tonight.

Why the hell is Dan Cleary on the 2nd PP unit? Can't Gator do that job?

 

[skinneh]

Why the hell is Dan Cleary on the 2nd PP unit? Can't Gator do that job?

We need someone to fall down at the blueline to distract the pk unit.

 

[KJoe88]

We need someone to fall down at the blueline to distract the pk unit.

Idk why, but I ...

 

[Syckle78]

Feels like a let down game. 3-1 Jets ..

 

[The Zermanator]

Excited to see Almqvist on the PP.

 

[Chance on Chance]

Babs really trying to help Cleary get another contract by giving him top 6 and pp duties

 

[RayMoonDoh]

Wings fan here from Winnipeg. Detroit is the only team that hasn't played here since the Jets came back in 2011. Looking forward to seeing how good Z, Pavel and Tatar are in person, and how bad Cleary and Quincey are.

Very

 

[Flowah]

Why the hell is Dan Cleary on the 2nd PP unit? Can't Gator do that job?

Sad life when you're trying to argue for Abby on a powerplay unit as opposed to Cleary. But I agree. Neither are great offensive weapons, but as always, Cleary is just way too slow to do anything.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

Look I have put up the stats wayyy too many times. But out of 137 players forwards in NHL who played top 2 lines toi in last three years cleary is dead last in toi per ppg and dead last in shooting percentage.

He got Mike to buy into he has worth by that luck in the playoffs. To debate Franzen over him is just crazy.

Abby has not been much better but will take a guy who is shooting percentage of 7.9 over the guy below 4 the only guy with a job under 4.0 in nhl by the way who is 121st overall of the 137 for shooting percentage and is 117 out of 137 for ppg per toi over cleary who no longer belongs in NHL and should not be playing ANY TOP TWO LINE MINUTES EVER.

 

[Eastopia]

Why the hell is Dan Cleary on the 2nd PP unit? Can't Gator do that job?

Cleary's got, what? 2 points? That needs to be fixed, Babcock's not taking any chances when it comes to getting Cleary another contract. Not even with Holland as his GM.

Edit: didn't see your post, CoC. You can now officially consider your mind awesome.