detredWINgs
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Kronwall White
I dunno. The Ericsson-White pairing looks great right now.
Kronwall White
Four guys are out of our top9, though, at least two of them would be in our top6 - maybe three depending on where you put Sammy. Do I like Gator and Cleary getting 18 minutes? Not really, but you have to put someone on the ice.
The point is Cleary should get NO PP time...but not only is he getting 1st unit PP time, he's getting as much time as our top forwards.
And yeah. We have to put someone out there. Hmm....how about...the guy that scored the first goal? You know, that young offensive player who has 2 points in 5 games to Cleary and Abdelkader's 1 point in 13?
Not to mention. Miller, Emmerton, and Tatar have all looked more offensively threatening than Abdelkader and Cleary for the entirety of the season. Thats just downright pathetic.
I am not even mad at Kronwall. It is what it is. The guy isnt built for this kind of responsibility.
Quincey and Cleary are awful.
Kindl had a miserable game.
Gator being in the top six and the PP is hilarious.
I don't care if you're on the first pairing in the NHL or the 3rd pairing in the ECHL, you have to be able to recognize who your man is and at least make an effort to cover him.
Kronwall often looks completely lost in his own zone.
Quincey makes a lot of mistakes as well, but his mistakes are normally in the neutral or offensive zones, he hasn't been on the ice for many goals against since the first 3 games of the season.
Look no further than how Pittsburgh uses Crosby, Malkin and Neal on the PP. Often for the full length. When you don't have the luxury of two units you simply roll your best players. A PP is too valuable to squander away half of it like the Wings do right now.
Bingo. When the second unit consists of Val Filppula, Tatar, Abdelkader (WTF?), Ian White and Jakub Kindl then there is no reason why the top unit shouldn't be out there for 1:30-2:00.
I dont disagree, but i think Kronwall is mentally and physically exhausted.
I have a question.
What would happen if you had a scoring line of:
Tatar-Datsyuk-Filppula
And they play all "european" with very little hitting, and all fancy passing and nice positioning to create scoring chances.
How would they play on the boards?
Would the line get completely outmuscled?
I mean people keep talking about putting "size" on the line. But I honestly do not think it makes much difference. Abdelkader is big, and I could only imagine a more skilled SMALL guy out there with dats.
How big a deal is size here???
I understand size minimizes injuries. But on a play to play basis....
... and give Quincey more ice time. Kronwall aint a top 2 dman.
Bingo. When the second unit consists of Val Filppula, Tatar, Abdelkader (WTF?), Ian White and Jakub Kindl then there is no reason why the top unit shouldn't be out there for 1:30-2:00.
Quincey is?
The pp sucked the very least you have a 2-0 score. The pp looked like it couldn't score if it was on the ice without the blues. No passing no position the main thing is position. Zetterberg had two men in him and yet no one was open. How can you be on the pp get double teamed and no one get open?
second why is cleary on the same line with dats. The mans on pace for a 4 point season well not really but still so many great chances died on his stick today. Can we please stop playing him on the first line with out best player?
I cant get over the pp. You have a 2-0 lead and the pp and give up a goal. On the pp not fail at it or not get pressure but give up a goal.
and now franzens hurt? can someone tanya harding clearys leg for me?
He's been one of the best defenseman, maybe better than Ericsson. Ericsson was on the ice for 2 goals against tonight, and so was Kronwall. Quincey has been solid... and get's paid less than "no block" Kronwall.
He's been one of the best defenseman, maybe better than Ericsson. Ericsson was on the ice for 2 goals against tonight, and so was Kronwall. Quincey has been solid... and get's paid less than "no block" Kronwall.
Howard and Kronwall are brutal. Babcock should have given Howard the night off and played Mrazek and give Quincey more ice time. Kronwall aint a top 2 dman.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20132PITSASALL&sort=avgTOIPerGame&viewName=summaryHow old are Malkin/Crosby/Neal? Average age of what, 25?
Babcock cant afford to play Z/Datsyuk 30 minutes a night. I don't disagree with playing Z/Datsyuk more, but i just dont think Babcock can afford to do it.
Why would you not play your number one goalie after a two day layoff?
And Quincey is a top 2? In what world?
I actually thought Lashoff was pretty good for the majority of the game.
He's been one of the best defenseman, maybe better than Ericsson. Ericsson was on the ice for 2 goals against tonight, and so was Kronwall. Quincey has been solid... and get's paid less than "no block" Kronwall.