Rumor: Friedman links NYR to IIHF suspended F Zaripov

[BBKers]

$$$$ issue. Jags wants to get PAID. Zaripov Will likely come Cheaply due to the circumstances. Not saying either is the optimal solution, but there is logical reasoning behind it all.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Well now that Brooks doesn't want this guy, I am 100% on board with the team signing him

Bring him over

 

[Mac n Gs]

If it's between Jagr or Zaripov for a 1 year deal, you take Jagr every single time. Only issue would be cap space.

 

[BBKers]

If it's between Jagr or Zaripov for a 1 year deal, you take Jagr every single time. Only issue would be cap space.

Yes. True. but therein lies the problem nonetheless. Although MSG would probably prefer having Jagr merchandise on their shelves, no?

 

[nyr2k2]

I keep seeing we can't afford Jagr, Jagr wants too much, etc. Anyone know what he's actually asking for? I know he made $4M last year. He's still on the market and it's almost September. Gotta think the asking price is coming down, no?

 

[BBKers]

I keep seeing we can't afford Jagr, Jagr wants too much, etc. Anyone know what he's actually asking for? I know he made $4M last year. He's still on the market and it's almost September. Gotta think the asking price is coming down, no?

We have $3,050,556 in cap space right now with only 12 Fwds (In addition Fast starts on LTIR). There are also some potential substantial bonuses. If we add another player plus Jaromir, I have a hard time seeing how we do that without some other deals being made. If we can do that, well fine. But I would like to see that done first.

 

[Tawnos]

I kind of think you're investing less if you are signing a guy like Zaripov over Jagr. If it doesn't work out, you're probably not out much, and he's still nearly a decade younger than Jagr (seriously, let that sink in). Jagr may be asking for more money at this point, and part of me feels there's some baggage with him in terms of being a superstar for so long...even if he's a great teammate it still kind of has the feel of plopping a giant elephant in the room. Maybe it's good, maybe it's weird, I dunno.

Still, 45 years old. You don't know when the wheels are going to fall off. What Jagr has done is remarkable but it's not going to last.

Besides the fact that Jagr is slow and doesn't really fit the Rangers system, you hit the other two reasons on why I don't want him. His personality makes him a distraction and his inevitable decline is too unpredictable.

Now, I've seen different reports regarding Zaripov's skating and he's definitely of the age where a decline could happen at any time too. His 3 year trendline is definitely in the wrong direction (64-54-45). However, if he turns out to be a mistake, it'll have less impact on the team than Jagr. Bring in Zaripov and the only way he has significant importance to the team is if he performs like Radulov did last year. Bring in Jagr and he has significant importance to the team no matter what happens.

I'm not really advocating for Zaripov, but in a choice between him and Jagr, I choose Zaripov. He might be lower reward (might be), but he's also lower risk.

 

[Joey Bones]

 

[kovazub94]

The latter should have been expected as a condition to the former.

 

[haohmaru]

Larry must be reading my posts.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

I keep seeing we can't afford Jagr, Jagr wants too much, etc. Anyone know what he's actually asking for? I know he made $4M last year. He's still on the market and it's almost September. Gotta think the asking price is coming down, no?

I would argue that the main reason Jagr is still on the market is that his asking price HASN'T come down.

Aside from being a billion years old and all.

 

[Lays]

Kreider - Zib - Buchnevich
Vesey - Hayes - Nash
Zaripov - Miller - Zucc
Grabner - DD/LAndersson/Bo#1C - Puempel/Farnham (Fast)

I would love these lines. The whole top 9 except Vesey (40-45) are/can be 50+ point players next year. I'd keep LA on Frolunda though, you ruin his development by playing him as the 4C. Boo and Pimple as the 13/14th forwards once Fast gets back. That 4th line is capable of around 35 points each with Grabner likely hitting more if he has the same kind of season. You also have Shatty feeding them passes who hit 56 points last year in 80 games and Skjei improving to around 45 with better defense..this team looks scary. If ADA gets playing time, I have no doubt in my mind he can breakout offensively to around 40 points. He's one of the most underrated prospects due to his attitude issues but people can't look past that and see the kid's talent. I am being optimistic and we likely don't have 9 guys who hit 50+ due to injuries and **** but I think we can surprise a lot of people.

 

[Zine]

Pass on Zaripov. Mega talented, but he's a fossil now and was never really suited for the small ice to begin with. He's way too old to make the transition. Not to mention nobody knows how much his substance use was helping him maintain a high level of play in his later years.

 

[Irishguy42]

I too play hockey really well while I'm on Sudafed.

But in all seriousness, he's worth a one year deal.

 

[TheTakedown]

We have $3,050,556 in cap space right now with only 12 Fwds (In addition Fast starts on LTIR). There are also some potential substantial bonuses. If we add another player plus Jaromir, I have a hard time seeing how we do that without some other deals being made. If we can do that, well fine. But I would like to see that done first.

Easy. Sign jagr for $3M, waive Holden... $650k to run the team.

 

[BBKers]

Easy. Sign jagr for $3M, waive Holden... $650k to run the team.

We would not waive a player that put up good stats last season and that we paid a mid level draft pick to get a mere year ago. But we could get a return that trumps that by a little - if lucky.

 

[Vitto79]

I too play hockey really well while I'm on Sudafed.

But in all seriousness, he's worth a one year deal.

If it's like 1 year 1 million plus bonuses but otherwise a bit of a risk on the cap

 

[Avery16]

Pass on Zaripov. Mega talented, but he's a fossil now and was never really suited for the small ice to begin with. He's way too old to make the transition. Not to mention nobody knows how much his substance use was helping him maintain a high level of play in his later years.

Easy. Sign jagr for $3M, waive Holden... $650k to run the team.

Speaking of fossils....Jagr is like a full decade older than Zaripov

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Stepan isn't being traded to Arizona.

I guess Brooksie doesn't understand how the salary cap works. We can't afford Jagr.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Does anyone know what Zaripov is looking for, as far as salary and term goes?

If he wants $1.5M on a 1-year deal, what's the harm? Anything more than that and I'm hesitant.

We have been able to squeeze decent performance out of these kinds of cheap signings in the past (Prospal, Fedotenko, Pouliot, Moore, Hunwick).

 

[Gardner McKay]

Easy. Sign jagr for $3M, waive Holden... $650k to run the team.

Why would the Rangers waive Holden (who could be traded for an asset), just to bring Jagr on?

Not smart asset management or a good idea in general.

 

[NYR Viper]

Why would the Rangers waive Holden (who could be traded for an asset), just to bring Jagr on?

Not smart asset management or a good idea in general.

I'm more than a little surprised Holden has not been traded as of yet.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I'm more than a little surprised Holden has not been traded as of yet.

I am and I am not. There hasn't really been much activity at all this summer though. Additionally, there is still time. Guys always get injured while training or in preseason. It also isn't a bad thing to see how some of our youngsters do in preseason before just shipping Holden out.

I'm guessing he will be out of a Rangers uniform before Thanksgiving.

 

[eco's bones]

I would think the Rangers are waiting to see how training camp plays out with the younger D--notably DeAngelo, Bereglazov, Pionk and Graves and maybe even Day before they make a decision on what to do with Holden. Even Staal's play during training camp might factor into that. Having two rookie D playing regularly as well is not a thing that most competitive teams can get away with. But anyway I don't suspect Holden is going to be moving until more is known.

On Zaripov and Jagr--I have doubts about both and if I signed either I'd keep the term down and $2 mil or under. They are both risks AFAIC. The Rangers do need more forward depth though.

 

[Trxjw]

Agreed that'd I'd just assume we sign Jagr if that was an alternative. That being said there is always the chance that he just doesn't want to come back to NY.

He certainly doesn't fit the overall system for the most part, but there's something to be said for variety as well. Put him with Hayes and Vesey and you have a line that can really cycle the puck well, albeit while giving up some defensive awareness.

Kreids - Z - Buch
Nash - Miller - Zucc
Vesey - Hayes - Jagr
Fast - DD - Grabner
Puempel

Nothing to sneeze at.