GDT: Free Agent Frenzy!

[Bill Peckerskull]

Him landing in Dallas would suck

 

[The Abusement Park]

Not sure who this guy is or if it's reliable but...

Not the most reliable.

 

[agentblack]

Eeeeew Anaheim

 

[Meeqs]

Zadorov - Johnson
Girard - Cole
Nemeth - Barberio
Alt

I see you're forgetting the 2 players that are the reason he is going to be moved.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

I was apparently wrong about that, some of our members corrected it after. Not as bad on that front then.

That's OK.
99% of your posts are 99% accurate.

 

[Meeqs]

Again, I would not expect them to be as good as we were.

Just potentially good enough to devalue that pick a whole ton

Their roster is NOTHING like the Avs was. If you try to relate them you are fooling yourself.

There is a very strong track record for teams with no defense and goaltending, even if they have some good forwards. We should expect Ott to preform similarly to Buf of the past few years and Edm before Mcdavid.

Ott is about as surefire bottom 3 team as you can have.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I see you're forgetting the 2 players that are the reason he is going to be moved.

Those two aren’t ready to play now. Barrie’s way ahead of them at the moment.

 

[Echo Roku]

Their roster is NOTHING like the Avs was. If you try to relate them you are fooling yourself.

There is a very strong track record for teams with no defense and goaltending, even if they have some good forwards. We should expect Ott to preform similarly to Buf of the past few years and Edm before Mcdavid.

Ott is about as surefire bottom 3 team as you can have.

I feel like you’re ignoring all the context and implications around those statements, so whatever

 

[Meeqs]

Strongly disagree here

One of 2 things will happen:
Makar and Timmins will bust

or

Barrie will be moved.

Pick whichever you feel is more likely.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I see you're forgetting the 2 players that are the reason he is going to be moved.

PCS Timmins who you think will somehow make the team this year or Makar who is going back to college?

Sounds like a year of taking a step backwards, IMO.

 

[Meeqs]

Those two aren’t ready to play now. Barrie’s way ahead of them at the moment.

I don't expect him to be moved now, I expect him to be moved before his contract is up. The only way he is moved now is if a team offers something too good to pass up like Nylander(tor for the smartasses).

I feel like you’re ignoring all the context and implications around those statements, so whatever

Would you mind elaborating a bit more, I'm not fully sure what you are referencing

 

[Ceremony]

Zadorov - Karlsson
Girard - Johnson
Cole - Makar

 

[Meeqs]

Him landing in Dallas would suck

Idk man, them having to resign both EK and Seguin next year would be fun to watch. It would surely make them a bit better but they are already bad enough where I dont think it would be that bad.

 

[tucker3434]

and that scares me...
seems like we've been down that road...

Didn’t he just absolutely crush it down the stretch after returning from one of those surgeries though?

 

[Echo Roku]

Would you mind elaborating a bit more, I'm not fully sure what you are referencing

Well, the multi comment conversation it was a part of, for one.

My whole point in the Avs comparison is that it’s easy to count people as bottom of the league and it not happen.

Yes, they won’t be nearly as good, but if they dedicate themselves to being competitive I could see them pushing for 10th overall over top 3

Ultimately, as long we own that pick, they’ll do everything in their power to devalue it

 

[The Abusement Park]

Didn’t he just absolutely crush it down the stretch after returning from one of those surgeries though?

Yes. He was rusty to start the season after having surgery coming off a short offseason. But if his “bad” season is leading the NHL in PPG for defenseman on a tire fire of a team than I’m not overly worried about his ankle injuries.

 

[Avs44]

In one of the replies, he says the Avs chances are “very good.”

He’s a Bruins reporter. No idea on credibility.

Next to none. Can’t recall him ever being right.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Can you imagine being a fan of Chicago or Minnesota this offseason if the Avs or Stars add Karlsson?

Sat around doing nothing all offseason while you watched the Blues and Stars or Avs massively improve and the Preds and Jets were already an insurmountable opponent. Plus you have a pipeline that is rather barren.

Reminds me of the late 2000's era for the Avs.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Just because the ankle is fine now, doesn't mean it won't be a recurring problem in a year or 3.

 

[The Pwnerer]

If that Ottawa lineup without Karlsson wasn't bad enough, lose Stone and it gets real real ugly.

 

[Pokecheque]

Speaking of Minnesota...what are they doing?

 

[Freaky Styley]

Just because the ankle is fine now, doesn't mean it won't be a recurring problem in a year or 3.

Not that I don't expect whatever team acquiring him to be thorough in their evaluation, but Karlsson's injury is a pretty big red flag for me. I watched him quite a bit last year and it was clear he lost a step. Obviously he is still very effective just on one ankle, but it could really come back to bite a team a few years down the line.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Speaking of Minnesota...what are they doing?

Same thing as most of our division... A lot of nothing so far.


The Blues are the only ones who have made any significant improvement to its team this summer, while Winnipeg got worse(Cleared cap space to try and fit Stastny in but he ended up leaving anyway).

 

[xbestboybandever]

So overpaying for Cole was not that good idea, right?

Yes, that extra $1M is really going to decimate our cap space.

 

[Foppa Frossa]

I'd do our 2019 1st + 2nd + Barrie for EK + Ryan. I'd do their 2019 1st + our 2nd + Barrie for EK by himself.


Otherwise, If I were Joe I'd also offer our 2019 1st, 2nd, 3rd for Stone and wink a bunch as I made the offer.