GDT: Free Agency interview period

[lhsgolf19]

Bernier deal is solid... Green is a little cheaper than last few years, not too bad

 

[lhsgolf19]

Good news there

 

[NickH8]

Kenny is addicted to spending to the cap. If there's cap space he has to use it.

Green and Bernier are fine, they fill a position where no one is incredibly ready for the NHL, Vanek however possibly takes a spot from Rasmussen or Zadina.

 

[datsyukfan]

If your gonna sign Vanek please move out a couple forwards in a trade for faulk. I’m on board with Vanek if that happens

 

[jkutswings]

Good news there

Fingers crossed, but Kenny...

 

[lhsgolf19]

Fingers crossed, but Kenny...

I truly believe the only way they sign him is if Z told them I'm done

 

[NickH8]

If your gonna sign Vanek please move out a couple forwards in a trade for faulk. I’m on board with Vanek if that happens

 

[NickH8]

Any guesses on the deal? My bet is Athanasiou + Svechnikov

 

[shanman]

Any guesses on the deal? My bet is Athanasiou + Svechnikov

at this point would do that for sure. Just feel like not near enough for carolina.

 

[lhsgolf19]

Few Things:
-Possible 2 year deal for Vanek
-If Vanek doesn't come... They will sit tight on the Forwards
-Ras is a lock to make the roster, Zadina would probably make it too regardless

 

[kliq]

not when your cap is filled with players that offer little to the present let alone the future(Ericsson,DeKeyser,Abdelkader,Helm etc etc),the Wings have essentially no actual talent to worry about paying right now,Larkin and Mantha this year and that's literally it and there's essentially no way 1 year on Zadina's ELC will make much of a difference in that regard

stop going after guys like Fippula and Vanek,problem solved



good question,I guess to me maybe i'd start thinking about it if there was any real reason to even think it would matter,the Wings have very little talent right now to the point where it's tough to even imagine a situation where players that actually matter going forward will be taking up much of the cap in the next few years no matter what happens with Zadina's contract

the Wings are in a position where they have so few assets that they need to focus in on maximizing the potential of Zadina as one of the very few rather than worry about things like how soon they need to pay him

To me this is an argument as to why they should do it. If they have as few assets as you describe it seems pointless to bring him up as one asset alone does nothing other then waste a year. Makes more sense to bring him up when it matters and you have more Zadina's.

With that said, I do bring him up but for other reasons. My reasons are I would have to sour the relationship with him, and I would hate to stunt his development.

I guess I agree with your final conclusion, but not your logic to get there.

 

[NickH8]

Few Things:
-Possible 2 year deal for Vanek
-If Vanek doesn't come... They will sit tight on the Forwards
-Ras is a lock to make the roster, Zadina would probably make it too regardless

Good. Let's hope a team out bids us for Vanek!

 

[kliq]

Few Things:
-Possible 2 year deal for Vanek
-If Vanek doesn't come... They will sit tight on the Forwards
-Ras is a lock to make the roster, Zadina would probably make it too regardless

I dont hate re-signing Green, he brings something to the table that none of our current D bring.

I dont love the Bernier signing, unless we are moving Howard now. Seems like a bit much for a player of Bernier's caliber given our teams position. I would prefer to sign a Anton Khudobin type to a 1 year contract and see what's available next year/see how our kids are doing.

Zero desire to sign Vanek.

 

[BinCookin]

My main issue with signing Vanek is his complete lack of trade value.
So even if we are dead last with a 50 pt Vanek... we cant get any assets for him.

 

[DInTheB]

 

[Ezekial]

I was fine with signing Vanek with the impression that we were drafting a D at 6, I don't see the point now. Val would've been a joke signing, especially at 2 years.

 

[BinCookin]

Thats a good cap hit on Green. Now plz plz plz let there be NO NTC.

 

[Frk It]

My main issue with signing Vanek is his complete lack of trade value.
So even if we are dead last with a 50 pt Vanek... we cant get any assets for him.

Yeah we barely got a 3rd for him a few years ago, so I’m pretty sure he has 0 trade value now.

I really don’t get why we are even messing around with that. Loved the signing the first time. At this point though, just leave it alone.

 

[DInTheB]

If the idea is to put Vanek on a line with Zadina or Ras, I don’t hate it. I am not thrilled but honestly, it beats the hell out of one of those kids playing with Abby.

 

[BinCookin]

Yeah we barely got a 3rd for him a few years ago, so I’m pretty sure he has 0 trade value now.

I really don’t get why we are even messing around with that. Loved the signing the first time. At this point though, just leave it alone.

The weird thing about it, is Vanek actually produces ok. But for some unknown reason... 3 deadlines in a row... hes worth less and less and less. Vancouver basically got nothing for him last time.

 

[Henkka]

The weird thing about it, is Vanek actually produces ok. But for some unknown reason... 3 deadlines in a row... hes worth less and less and less. Vancouver basically got nothing for him last time.

Vanek has abyslmal defense. I remember his goals/6o was really good but GA/60 one of league-worst in many teams. He would help the PP where he is dangerous, liability on ES.

 

[Frk It]

Vanek has abyslmal defense. I remember his goals/6o was really good but GA/60 one of league-worst in many teams. He would help the PP where he is dangerous, liability on ES.

And therefore he’s not a guy coaches want to deal with.

 

[shanman]

Few Things:
-Possible 2 year deal for Vanek
-If Vanek doesn't come... They will sit tight on the Forwards
-Ras is a lock to make the roster, Zadina would probably make it too regardless

have no idea how those two could make the roster with a vanek signing, barring a tradeout of multiple forwards before the season.
12 forward slots and with the vanek signing we would have: hank, nyquist, abby, lgd, helm, larkin, mantha, aa, nielsen, bert, plus then vanek. That's 11 already, and i am assuming we have Frk and witkowski sitting in the cabana (which isn't a given, especially with their love for witkowski.) Also ignores that we went with 11 and 7 a lot last season i believe with our lineups. Plus we are looking at filps ugh. Btw we have 3 forwards we should be looking to incorporate into the lineup, feel like svech is going to get stunted some more by sending him back to grand rapids. Say no to vanek. We've got plenty of veteran forwards right now, and especially considering we are supposed to be rebuilding with a theme of youth.

Only way we sign vanek is to trade some forwards before the season-not just assuming we will have magically great trade offers at deadline for players that weren't all that valuable years ago.

 

[NickH8]

have no idea how those two could make the roster with a vanek signing, barring a tradeout of multiple forwards before the season.
12 forward slots and with the vanek signing we would have: hank, nyquist, abby, lgd, helm, larkin, mantha, aa, nielsen, bert, plus then vanek. That's 11 already, and i am assuming we have Frk and witkowski sitting in the cabana (which isn't a given, especially with their love for witkowski.) Also ignores that we went with 11 and 7 a lot last season i believe with our lineups. Plus we are looking at filps ugh. Btw we have 3 forwards we should be looking to incorporate into the lineup, feel like svech is going to get stunted some more by sending him back to grand rapids. Say no to vanek. We've got plenty of veteran forwards right now, and especially considering we are supposed to be rebuilding with a theme of youth.

Only way we sign vanek is to trade some forwards before the season-not just assuming we will have magically great trade offers at deadline for players that weren't all that valuable years ago.

Frks contract can be burried completely and Glendenings spot is very takeable.

 

[shanman]

Frks contract can be burried completely and Glendenings spot is very takeable.

i get that, and that was why i did include them in my assumptions for the cabana. But as for LGD, the wings love him. His spot is completely safe as svech, zadina, and ras are all not 4th line defensive centers like LGD. Completely different roles they want for them.