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Yeah that's kinda how I see it... Do the leafs have any goalies in their system really? Or is resigning Andersen a must
Value of: Frederik Andersen
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I guess you didn't read the prefix huh? Or do you just like hearing yourself talk.
Tukka never suited up for the Leafs so actually he was traded away before he played 1 game in the NHL. So no the Leafs didn't trade away a young elite goalie.
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That's not how it works. That doesn't mean you were getting Gibson.
Exactly! Gibson was never on the market, Andersen became expandable because of Gibson's development.
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That as well. I think the poster was referring to Gibson being the 2nd round pick they gave up when swapping 1st& 2nd with the Duck's earlier 1st in 2011.
FerrisRox
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What does that have to do with anything?
They traded away Tuukka Rask. Whether he suited up for them or not is irrelevant.
He’s a much better goalie than most Leaf fans give him credit for. Pretty much every goalie goes through cold and hot streaks. But a lot of the teams are more committed to team defense so it protects the goalies more when they have those cold streaks. Andersen doesn’t get that same protection so his cold streaks really stand out.
The team in front of him is highly skilled but still needs to buy into playing strong two way hockey. If they do then Andersen is good enough to win it all with.
The team in front of him is highly skilled but still needs to buy into playing strong two way hockey. If they do then Andersen is good enough to win it all with.
It has everything to do with it! You never know what you have in a draft pick. Yeah they made a made mistake by trading an unknown player for a Calder trophy winner but hey every team in the NHL makes mistakes like that. Back up all your hate posts for one team.
Actually most Leaf fans know how good he's been. We all know without him we would have lost a lot more games. My thread is about how other fan bases value him.
Khelandros
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Maybe you have a vocal minority of Leaf fans then. I read a lot of posts saying they can’t win with him.
Personally I’d have him in the top 10 or so goalies which is good enough to win with.
CupsOverCash
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Werent Leaf fans happy with him last year? I remember seeing people saying he was saving their ass left and right all season long.
Kamiccolo
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The premise makes no sense anyway. Let's trade the only starting goalie the Leafs have while in a win now window because in a few years, he may or may not price himself out of the job.
Andersen fluctuates between elite and subpar. The last few years he’s struggled and started the season cold. He’s also been criticized for needing a large sample size to maintain his elite play, and has yet to prove he can handle high pressure situations with some questionable playoff performances during elimination games.
That being said the Leafs aren’t exactly overflowing with depth in the goalie department and despite the HF narrative multiple teams have discovered how hard it is to find a goalie of his caliber. Goalies are unpredictable with high end prospects like Subban struggling at the NHL level, or top UFAs faltering with their new team. It’s not a good move for the leafs to give up on their starter. He’s probably one of our most essential players.
TheDoldrums
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Andersen is the guy this year.
But they also probably won't re-sign him, imo. I know everyone has their Dubas jokes but young forwards are relatively predictable and safe investments. On the other hand, long-term deals for goalies in their 30s are incredibly unpredictable and risky. Most analytics people would tell you to run from those deals. Andersen has been very good with the Leafs overall and I'm betting another team will offer him more than the Leafs.
But they also probably won't re-sign him, imo. I know everyone has their Dubas jokes but young forwards are relatively predictable and safe investments. On the other hand, long-term deals for goalies in their 30s are incredibly unpredictable and risky. Most analytics people would tell you to run from those deals. Andersen has been very good with the Leafs overall and I'm betting another team will offer him more than the Leafs.
FerrisRox
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Yeah, what a shock it must have been when that goalie they took in the first round turned out to be good.
Just like Quebec was floored to discover that Eric Lindros ended up being a bonafide NHLer.
Nobody could have seen it coming.
FerrisRox
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I'm talking about fans calling the team a "contender" despite them never having won a playoff round.
I'm talking about fans pretending Auston Matthews is a top two or three player in the league and him being paid as such.
I'm talking about fans asking if the Maple Leafs power play was going to be the "best ever in the history of the league."
I'm talking about fans claiming last season that Rielly was having a Norris Trophy season and Andersen would be nominated for a Vezina.
Just look at these boards, there's a long history of some Maple Leaf fans lauding accolades and credit on the team for things they simply haven't achieved yet.
mydnyte
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he's up in 2 years and nobody knows what the cap will look like then ...repost in 2021
mydnyte
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while not elite, Ken Wregget won a few cups too (Rask would be the young Elite one)
