Former Canucks: Players & Management - Part 2 (The Ben Hutton Sweepstakes are over)

[4Twenty]

So what are you gonna do about it?

You gonna let me run my mouth or are you gonna put me in my place?

That poster refuses to actually discuss any of the content of posts.

They’ll grab on to a semantic part of the discussion to dispute it.

Thus deflecting the actual subject.

Then when you ask him to dispute with evidence there is no interest in that.

He wants to you to not say fact but instead to say “based on this empirical evidence I believe ... blah blah”.

Then you won’t even see him reply. Because there isn’t any interest in the discussion just semantics.

Rinse repeat.

 

[mathonwy]

That poster refuses to actually discuss any of the content of posts.

They’ll grab on to a semantic part of the discussion to dispute it.

Thus deflecting the actual subject.

Then when you ask him to dispute with evidence there is no interest in that.

He wants to you to not say fact but instead to say “based on this empirical evidence I believe ... blah blah”.

Then you won’t even see him reply. Because there isn’t any interest in the discussion just semantics.

Rinse repeat.

Oh I know that.

Hence the fight me irl response.

 

[M2Beezy]

Kassian scores the 3-1 goal on the Rangers, assisted by Mcdavid and Draisatl. Obvi his stats are up cause of his teammates but is making the MOST of the chances, hes there he pounds away he takes a beating but he is quite effective there. Meanwhile hows Prust and the 5th doing???????

 

[RobertKron]

Kassian scores the 3-1 goal on the Rangers, assisted by Mcdavid and Draisatl. Obvi his stats are up cause of his teammates but is making the MOST of the chances, hes there he pounds away he takes a beating but he is quite effective there. Meanwhile hows Prust and the 5th doing???????

The Canucks added the 5th, they didn’t receive one.

 

[Addison Rae]

Yeah that was a bit of a tap in by Kassian, but he's played very well this year.

 

[Zippgunn]

I'm not sure you understand what facts are.

Fact: anything I say on HF Boards...

 

[Zippgunn]

Bottom line though is this is just one of the many examples of the toxic culture the Aquilinis have wrought upon our team.

THIS I can agree with...

 

[Zippgunn]

The situation boils down to Bertuzzi swinging at Moore's head from behind, and to some extent on whether he could have avoided falling directly on him when the play died. It was reckless and the consequences were terrible, but I don't think the man is evil or should be pushed out of the league.

I do. I think he's human garbage and not only should have been banned from hockey for life but also prevented from even entering the USA ever again. Guess that makes me a "bad Canuck fan" but so be it.

 

[M2Beezy]

The Canucks added the 5th, they didn’t receive one.

Yeah i sometimes forget and mix that up since we got the much worse player. At least we got the experience to build a winning culture with Prust

 

[Addison Rae]

I do. I think he's human garbage and not only should have been banned from hockey for life but also prevented from even entering the USA ever again. Guess that makes me a "bad Canuck fan" but so be it.

So you support Willie D but can't stand Beruzzi, Burrows, Kesler etc

You're not a bad Canucks fan, you're just clearly an Oilers fan.

 

[Zippgunn]

So you support Willie D but can't stand Beruzzi, Burrows, Kesler etc

You're not a bad Canucks fan, you're just clearly an Oilers fan.

Ah the most common retort that I get ("you're just a Flames/Oilers/Leafs/whatever-team-Vancouver-just-lost-to-in-the-playoffs fan") from Canuck fans whose moral compasses point due south. Thank You.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

I do. I think he's human garbage and not only should have been banned from hockey for life but also prevented from even entering the USA ever again. Guess that makes me a "bad Canuck fan" but so be it.

How was Bertuzzi’s punch on Moore any worse than Bure’s mother of all elbows on Shane Churla? Is Pavel Bure human garbage too?

 

[mathonwy]

Kassian scores the 3-1 goal on the Rangers, assisted by Mcdavid and Draisatl. Obvi his stats are up cause of his teammates but is making the MOST of the chances, hes there he pounds away he takes a beating but he is quite effective there. Meanwhile hows Prust and the 5th doing???????

You are #1 poster.

MTB4PM

 

[Canucko]

Kassian scores the 3-1 goal on the Rangers, assisted by Mcdavid and Draisatl. Obvi his stats are up cause of his teammates but is making the MOST of the chances, hes there he pounds away he takes a beating but he is quite effective there. Meanwhile hows Prust and the 5th doing???????

Kassian scores today?

 

[TraderJim]

Ah the most common retort that I get ("you're just a Flames/Oilers/Leafs/whatever-team-Vancouver-just-lost-to-in-the-playoffs fan") from Canuck fans whose moral compasses point due south. Thank You.

Don't forget that I also think you are a relative to Willie D.

 

[Hoghandler]

Kassian scores today?

Didn't look like it. He whacked at the goalies pad on the third goal but it appeared the puck was already heading into the net.

 

[M2Beezy]

You are #1 poster.

MTB4PM

This post should be stickied at the top of every page

 

[tantalum]

Kassian is indeed an alcoholic. One management team was doing their best to support him and another one came in and really couldn’t be bothered. Whether you think that’s the right decision or not that is what happened. But I’ll tell you one thing there is a new member of this team that needed similar support from his team at the time. That team and coach turned that kids career around by not washing their hands of him and his problems. That was the Flames, Hartley and Michael Ferland.

 

[Canucko]

Kassian is indeed an alcoholic. One management team was doing their best to support him and another one came in and really couldn’t be bothered. Whether you think that’s the right decision or not that is what happened. But I’ll tell you one thing there is a new member of this team that needed similar support from his team at the time. That team and coach turned that kids career around by not washing their hands of him and his problems. That was the Flames, Hartley and Michael Ferland.

Didn’t he sign a contract extension with new management?

 

[mathonwy]

How about those numbers!

Atta boy Zacky. Always believed in ya!

 

[Hit the post]

That was the Flames, Hartley and Michael Ferland.

Hartley is still a ****.

 

[Zippgunn]

How about those numbers!

Atta boy Zacky. Always believed in ya!

It is heartening to see Zach seemingly in control of his life and thriving once again at hockey. I was thrilled when we traded for him but that faded as he slowly turned into a bit of a loose cannon, perhaps in an attempt to become Bert v 2.0 which is seemingly what this entire fanbase wanted him to become. I approved of the trade (but not the return) when we jettisoned him and was saddened by his brief stint in Montreal so I have to say that I'm really happy for him... that is except when we play against him. Then he's a pain in the ass. Good for him...

 

[mathonwy]

It is heartening to see Zach seemingly in control of his life and thriving once again at hockey. I was thrilled when we traded for him but that faded as he slowly turned into a bit of a loose cannon, perhaps in an attempt to become Bert v 2.0 which is seemingly what this entire fanbase wanted him to become. I approved of the trade (but not the return) when we jettisoned him and was saddened by his brief stint in Montreal so I have to say that I'm really happy for him... that is except when we play against him. Then he's a pain in the ass. Good for him...

WD wanted him to be a power forward and drive the net.

Zack Kassian is a playmaking winger.

Always has been, always will be.

Driving the net is not what Zack does.

Drive deep and fast to create space and then button hook to set up the play and he can do it because he's got a really nice pair of mitts.

For sure it's good for him. It's always nice to see players who have taken the hard road succeed.

 

[Zippgunn]

You said it, I didn't.

"Inference: Considering the type of emotional wear-his-heart-on-his-sleeve "toolsy" type of person Kass is, it really isn't much of a stretch to infer that Kass going off the rails in his personal life just MIGHT be connected to Kass being treated unfairly by the god of his world and that's WD."

So exactly what do you mean here? I'm starting to wonder if there is ANYTHING negative that has happened to this team in the last decade or so that you don't blame Willie D, for...

 

[elitepete]

Ah the most common retort that I get ("you're just a Flames/Oilers/Leafs/whatever-team-Vancouver-just-lost-to-in-the-playoffs fan") from Canuck fans whose moral compasses point due south. Thank You.

Wow you’re so virtuous