Rumor: Flyers gearing up to trade Wayne Simmonds

[BonMorrison]

Yeah, I could see that.

Ellis is one of my favorite Preds but I would consider this. We'd probably need a RHD coming back though.

Forsberg - Johansen - Arvidsson
Fiala - Turris - Simmonds

 

[justafan22]

In the Value thread for Simmonds just 2 months ago, a 1st+Brown was well received by lots of fans on both sides. And a few days ago, I mentioned it again on the Flyers board and most are on board with that deal still



Don't stop there....Brayden Schenn was traded on June 23rd as well last year!

The issue is that this year, day 1 of the draft is June 22 and I think a 1st will be involved for him...unless Hextall wants another 2 1st rounders for next year....damn hoarder!


1st+Brown gets it done....and hell....throw in the rights too!

rather do one of nielsen/engvall/grundstrom

 

[FlyTimmo]

Simmonds for Ellis.

I'd probably do it. We need a RHD badly.

Provorov - Gostisbehere
Sanheim - Ellis
AMac - Myers
Gudas/Hagg

That could be a pretty solid defense.

 

[mja]

Ellis is one of my favorite Preds but I would consider this. We'd probably need a RHD coming back though.

Forsberg - Johansen - Arvidsson
Fiala - Turris - Simmonds

We have no RHD. It's Gudas....and then Myers in the A. That's it. We'd be able to throw Hagg in the deal for a similar level forward. It doesn't really matter what side he plays, he's scared of having the puck on his stick.

 

[BonMorrison]

Josi - Gudas scares me as a pairing tbh.

 

[Critical13]

I think Ellis is worth quite a bit more than Simmonds, personally. I feel like Simmonds would be a nice fit in Tampa Bay. 2nd line with Point and Palat.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

If Simmonds is traded, expect whatever team he lands at to give up a ton for him.

Why?

Because of Ron Hextall.

 

[mja]

Ellis is one of my favorite Preds but I would consider this. We'd probably need a RHD coming back though.

Forsberg - Johansen - Arvidsson
Fiala - Turris - Simmonds

We have no RHD. It's Gudas....and then Myers in the A. That's it. We'd be able to throw Hagg in the deal for a similar level forward. It doesn't really matter what side he plays, he's scared of having the puck on his stick.

 

[The Burdened]

A deal around Wayne for Ellis?
I like it. I like it a lot.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

First and foremost, who is Michael Russo? And why should anyone put credence in what he says?

Seriously?

 

[Meeqs]

Considering there are more high end wingers available now than who knows in how long Phi would be wise to wait. The supply will limit what they can get but if they wait for some big deals to happen they can use that as comparisons in a few months to get more for him.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Should we revisit the Simmonds + Sanheim to CGY for Hamilton+ deal?

 

[FlyTimmo]

Considering there are more high end wingers available now than who knows in how long Phi would be wise to wait. The supply will limit what they can get but if they wait for some big deals to happen they can use that as comparisons in a few months to get more for him.

Though, after the Capitals run, I could see teams putting a premium on physically skilled players like Simmonds.

 

[mja]

Considering there are more high end wingers available now than who knows in how long Phi would be wise to wait. The supply will limit what they can get but if they wait for some big deals to happen they can use that as comparisons in a few months to get more for him.

The beautiful thing about Simmonds is that he has those "intangibles" that old-school hockey people just go gaga over. He's the only scoring winger on the market who can also mix it up, etc., so he stands out a bit from the crowd.

 

[Montecristo]

I think Simmonds would be a good fit with krejci and kovulchuk but I think Boston will be on his 12 team list

 

[dingbathero]

Tagging onto the Wild connection through Russo

Would a

Simmonds for Coyle and Murphy be something?

Only reason is a 3rd line center in Coyle and a RHD that Hextall would like..... 2 birds, 1 stone? Value does that work?

 

[The Burdened]

Draft
Dallas are on the clock
Bettman come up
"We have a trade to announce"
Dallas crowd goes silent
"Dallas trades #13 to Philadelphia for Wayne Simmonds"
Dallas crowd gasps

 

[Meeqs]

The beautiful thing about Simmonds is that he has those "intangibles" that old-school hockey people just go gaga over. He's the only scoring winger on the market who can also mix it up, etc., so he stands out a bit from the crowd.

Teams will still have options which will give Phi less negotiating power. These are also high end guys like Skinner, Patches, Panarin, etc so even with his intangibles Phi wont be able to ask much more than the other asking prices where if there weren't any other options they could get other teams to start a bidding war for him and up the price.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Tagging onto the Wild connection through Russo

Would a

Simmonds for Coyle and Murphy be something?

Only reason is a 3rd line center in Coyle and a RHD that Hextall would like..... 2 birds, 1 stone? Value does that work?

Not for me.

Coyle is 3.5 years younger and has 1 more year on his contract. He was also on a very nice upward trajectory up until last year, when he broke his leg and tore some thumb ligaments.

Coyle might be our 2nd line center sooner rather than later too.

 

[Curufinwe]

Draft
Dallas are on the clock
Bettman come up
"We have a trade to announce"
Dallas crowd goes silent
"Dallas trades #13 to Philadelphia for Wayne Simmonds"
Dallas crowd gasps

If Hextall was going to do that, he should do it before the draft starts so he can use two of #13, #14 and #19 to move up into the top 10.

 

[bauer]

Simmonds for Ellis.

yes please.

 

[Bazeek]

Tagging onto the Wild connection through Russo

Would a

Simmonds for Coyle and Murphy be something?

Only reason is a 3rd line center in Coyle and a RHD that Hextall would like..... 2 birds, 1 stone? Value does that work?

No. Coyle has played as a 3C out of necessity, but he should be in the top-6 next year. Whether that's at C or RW is going to depend on how the offseason shakes out. And maybe how stubborn Koivu is.

If we did trade for Simmonds the goal would be to add another right-shot forward. Giving up Coyle for an older player that'll be a UFA next year would be counterproductive.

I could kind of see giving up one of our LW's, but I think it's a bad idea.

 

[mja]

Teams will still have options which will give Phi less negotiating power. These are also high end guys like Skinner, Patches, Panarin, etc so even with his intangibles Phi wont be able to ask much more than the other asking prices where if there weren't any other options they could get other teams to start a bidding war for him and up the price.

Panarin's a completely separate beast. He's going to command a haul. But Patches & Skinner aren't really the same market as Simmonds. If you're looking for a netfront guy, it's going to be Simmonds.

 

[Meeqs]

Panarin's a completely separate beast. He's going to command a haul. But Patches & Skinner aren't really the same market as Simmonds. If you're looking for a netfront guy, it's going to be Simmonds.

Top 6 winger is a top 6 winger, teams will definitely have preferences but if the price deviates too much then they will go out the window. I'm also not really disagreeing with you, just saying waiting a bit may raise his value unless they can manage to move him at the draft before anyone else is moved.

 

[Flyerfan47]

First and foremost, who is Michael Russo? And why should anyone put credence in what he says?

Just because you don't know him, doesn't mean he's not credible.