Bryanbryoil
Pray For Ukraine
- Sep 13, 2004
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I don't have a brain.They might succeed despite Chia. Anybody with a brain knows he massacred this team.
Edit: spelling
They might succeed despite Chia. Anybody with a brain knows he massacred this team.
Edit: spelling
Here's our roster template if Chia never traded any of our 1st round picks that he inherited.
Draisaitl(8.5)-Mcdavid(12.5)-JP(.925)
Hall(6)-RNH(6)-Yamamoto(.895)
xxx-Ek(.895)-Yakupov(2.75)
xxx-xxx-xxx
Klefbom(4.165)-xxx
Nurse(3.2)-Bouchard(.925)
xxx-xxx
xxx
xxx
This is assuming we draft Eriksson Ek in 2015 and qualify Yakupov. This roster comes to a 46.755 cap hit. That leaves us around 33 million to sign a 3rd line LW, entire 4th line, 3 defencemen, 2 goalies and 3 extra roster players.
We could easily fit Eberle, Sekera, Russel, Talbot and Koskinen into the roster.
Draisaitl(8.5)-Mcdavid(12.5)-JP(.925)
Hall(6)-RNH(6)-Eberle(6)
xxx-Ek(.895)-Yamamoto(.895)
xxx-xxx-Yakupov(2.75)
Klefbom(4.165)-Sekera(5.5)
Nurse(3.2)-Bouchard(.925)
Russel(4)-xxx
Talbot(4.165)
Koskinen(2.5)
Now our cap is at 68.92, leaving us with almost 10.5 million to sign two bottom 6 LW's , a 4C, a bottom pairing RD and 3 press box players. Now we'll add Benning, Caggiula and this would be Pouliot's last year if he wasn't bought out.
Draisaitl(8.5)-Mcdavid(12.5)-JP(.925)
Hall(6)-RNH(6)-Eberle(6)
Caggiula(1.5)-Ek(.895)-Yamamoto(.895)
Pouliot(4)-xxx-Yakupov(2.75)
Klefbom(4.165)-Sekera(5.5)
Nurse(3.2)-Bouchard(.925)
Russel(4)-Benning(1.9)
Talbot(4.165)
Koskinen(2.5)
Now our cap is 76.32, that leaves us 3 million to sign a 4C and 3 press box players. Something that could have been easily done. Now we'll send down Yamamoto and Bouchard. We'll add UFA signings Brodziak, Chaisson, Gravel to the active lineup, as well as Garrison, Khaira and Rattie as press box players.
2018/19 roster
Draisaitl(8.5)-Mcdavid(12.5)-JP(.925)
Hall(6)-RNH(6)-Eberle(6)
Caggiula(1.5)-Ek(.895)-Yakupov(2.75)
Pouliot(4)-Brodziak(1.15)-Chaisson(.650)
Rattie(.8) Khaira(.675)
Klefbom(4.165)-Sekera(5.5)
Nurse(3.2)-Russel(4)
Gravel(.7)-Benning(1.9)
Garrison(.650)
Talbot(4.165)
Koskinen(2.5)
Cap comes to 79.125. Everything fits under the cap with 300K to spare. This is what our roster would look like to start this season if Chia left everything intact and just added with some minor UFA signings(Sekera being the one big signing). For the 2019/20 season we'd have Eberle, Pouliot, Gravel, Garrison, Talbot and Koskinen off the books but Yamamoto and Bouchard will be in the lineup. We'd be going into 2019/20 with 19.695 cap space to sign two goalies, an extra defenceman as well as RFA's JP, Ek, Yakupov, Rattie, Khaira.
2019/20 roster
Draisaitl(8.5)-Mcdavid(12.5)-JP(2.5)
Hall(6)-RNH(6)-Yamamoto(.895)
Caggiula(1.5)-Ek(2.5)-Yakupov(3.25)
Khaira(1.5)-Brodziak(1.15)-Chaisson(.9)
Rattie(.9)xxx(.65)
Klefbom(4.165)-Sekera(5.5)
Nurse(3.2)-Bouchard(.925)
Russel(4)-Benning(1.9)
Gravel(.9)
Koskinen(4.5)
xxx(1.5)
This roster comes to a 75.335, leaving us with 8 million to spare. I know this is a hypothetical, what if scenario but this is what our roster could have been with Chia doing the bare minimum instead of making a bad trade every year trying to force things.
On what planet is Yakupov a productive 3.5M winger? Not in the NHL real world planet. Ek can barely crack the Minnesota roster and you have him as a 3C. So 2/3 of your 3rd line is pure fiction. And JP as a top line RW? Yeah if you want to put an anchor on that line. Again not in the real NHL world, but only in the mind of wishful thinking fanboy. Sekera as a top RD? Last I checked he was a LD with a bad knee and torn achilles tendon whose missed most of the past 2 seasons. \
Your hypothesis fails big time with this line up.
It’s obvious that we have a good chance at the Cup this year, I think even if we win it Chias done, there’s just been too many little signs from management, middle management, upper management, vice chairman, chairmen, CEO and ownership that they have lost faith in Chia. He’s riding on borrowed time.
I do think it would be nice for Chia to get to experience winning the cup one more time before the boot, I do appreciate he’s made some good moves such as getting Talbot, Kass and Kosko and McDavid and Drai were both genius franchise transforming picks that look great in hindsight.
It's a hypothetical lineup. Yakupov was a 30ish point player with us making 2.5 which is fine for 3rd line production. He'd also be gtting a raise on his QO. Ek's production is just as bad as Strome's but you can't fit a more expensive player into the lineup. JP looks fine in a top 6 role this season and all he needs to be is a support role for Draisaitl-Mcdavid, you can technically plug anyone into that spot which the team does with Mcdavid. Sekera also plays both sides with this lineup going with a healthy Sekera. Since he's injured his cap hit moves to LTIR, Russel moves up and we sign a UFA Dman with the cap savings. The point i'm making is that if Chia did nothing our depth would be vastly superior to what it is today. The only thing we are missing is Larsson.
Just be realistic and deal with what we have in front of us instead of complaining about what could have been.
Would you rather have Yakupov at 3.5 mill or Lucic at 6 mill?On what planet is Yakupov a productive 3.5M winger? Not in the NHL real world planet. Ek can barely crack the Minnesota roster and you have him as a 3C. So 2/3 of your 3rd line is pure fiction. And JP as a top line RW? Yeah if you want to put an anchor on that line. Again not in the real NHL world, but only in the mind of wishful thinking fanboy. Sekera as a top RD? Last I checked he was a LD with a bad knee and torn achilles tendon whose missed most of the past 2 seasons. \
Your hypothesis fails big time with this line up.
Would you rather have Yakupov at 3.5 mill or Lucic at 6 mill?
I started a poll. We'll see what the popular opinion is.Thats pretty simple, Lucic at 6 is the lesser of two evils. Yakupov kills offensive plays through the neutral zone, a complete train wreck in the D zone, and is a skating whirling dervish with no control or patience to his game.
Lucic as he is employed right now is a useful but vastly overpaid player.
I started a poll. We'll see what the popular opinion is.
You couldn't care less? If you're going to be rude at least make sense.I could care less what the "popular opinion" is, especially on a hypothetical twirl of a question.
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Yakupov over Lucic by a landslide. This speaks volumes about Chias unmovable contract.
JP is still lost. Watch the games live, he is lost out there still, not in the right positions for breakouts and transition, he takes the outside ice on the rush in the offensive zone, does not use his size on a consistent basis to drive the net and take and hold ice, bottom line is he is not doing fine in a top 6 role, he is a project in a top 6 role. That is the reality. Yak was a house on fire and not an NHL player in 3 NHL teams under qualified coaches including Hitchcock. Ek is a project just like JP. Sekera has been injured and continues to be and this magical top pair RD UFA defenceman did not exist when Sekera went down this year and did not exist last year.
You cant pretend players would have and/or will have panned out or would not have been injured because you have an anti Chia bias and for every hypothetical situation you have someone can give you 2 more. Its really a pointless exercise and in your hypothetical case I find that line up to be completely unrealistic in the extreme.
Just be realistic and deal with what we have in front of us instead of complaining about what could have been.
No need to get into a hypothetical line up that clearly has a lot of wishful thinking.