Speculation: Fantasy GM and Rumor Roundup Thread | "Trader Jim" gearing up for TDL

[Just A Bit Outside]

Dan Marino was great.

Especially in Ace Ventura.

 

[Vector]

I wonder if you could build something around Boeser plus one of the bad RD contracts for Marino and Zucker plus pieces to even things out. They may value Myers and be willing to take the short term improvement in exchange for the long term risk, or see Poolman or Hamonic as a worthwhile swap.

I was looking earlier and they have the cap space to accommodate, at least for this season. However it's via the LTIR generated by Zucker so I can't see him being included.

 

[m9]

Wonder if this would be more of a Myers thing than anything. Marino & Kapanen for Motte & Myers? Then you still do something with Boeser and NJ.

 

[pitseleh]

I was looking earlier and they have the cap space to accommodate, at least for this season. However it's via the LTIR generated by Zucker so I can't see him being included.

Oh interesting. I hadn’t looked closely but makes sense now that you mention it.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Wonder if this would be more of a Myers thing than anything. Marino & Kapanen for Motte & Myers? Then you still do something with Boeser and NJ.

That favours Canucks…

Kapanen > motte
Marino > Myers

its closer when Boeser is included tbh.

 

[Vector]

That favours Canucks…

Kapanen > motte
Marino > Myers

its closer when Boeser is included tbh.

The interesting part, that we've been talking about for a couple of months now, is I don't think anyone on this forum has a proper gauge of what Boeser's value is. I'm at the point where I'd be pretty fine with a Boeser for Marino straight swap but I know there's a bunch here who'd call me insane.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

The interesting part, that we've been talking about for a couple of months now, is I don't think anyone on this forum has a proper gauge of what Boeser's value is. I'm at the point where I'd be pretty fine with a Boeser for Marino straight swap but I know there's a bunch here who'd call me insane.

Honestly, it wouldn’t be the worst deal I’ve seen… top 4/ cost controlled D that fits the age range. Now I am not sure penguins would do this while they are hunting down playoffs.

 

[MS]

The interesting part, that we've been talking about for a couple of months now, is I don't think anyone on this forum has a proper gauge of what Boeser's value is. I'm at the point where I'd be pretty fine with a Boeser for Marino straight swap but I know there's a bunch here who'd call me insane.

Yeah, I'd consider a top-4 RHD of the same age signed long-term at $4.4 million to be a win in exchange for Boeser at $7.5 going forward, but I would expect that most of the fanbase would LOSE THEIR MINDS if that trade happened.

 

[DonnyNucker]

Yeah, I'd consider a top-4 RHD of the same age signed long-term at $4.4 million to be a win in exchange for Boeser at $7.5 going forward, but I would expect that most of the fanbase would LOSE THEIR MINDS if that trade happened.

It would be a solid trade for us imo. Save some cap and upgrade our biggest weakness

 

[sting101]

No it wouldn't it would be selling low on a 30goal 60-65 pt player.

Marino for Boeser yikes

 

[Vector]

No it wouldn't it would be selling low on a 30goal 60-65 pt player.

Marino for Boeser yikes

If we're using projections and potential that actually hasn't happened then Marino is a 40 point defenceman (almost entirely at EV) signed to an excellent contract for a long time.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Yeah, I'd consider a top-4 RHD of the same age signed long-term at $4.4 million to be a win in exchange for Boeser at $7.5 going forward, but I would expect that most of the fanbase would LOSE THEIR MINDS if that trade happened.

I mean I think our fans will lose their minds regardless. Never going to appease the masses.

we don’t trade him, people are mad
We resign him for $7.5M, people are mad
We trade him for Marino , people are mad
We trade him for kapanen/zacha, people are mad
We trade him for draft pick, people are mad

 

[VanillaCoke]

Continuing to repeat 7.5M doesn't make it any more true.

 

[sting101]

If we're using projections and potential that actually hasn't happened then Marino is a 40 point defenceman (almost entirely at EV) signed to an excellent contract for a long time.

yes sure he's nice player but the target has to be a top3 cornerstone. Tell me what makes us that much better with Marino instead of Hamonic/Myers/Schenn or a stop gap vs losing a 30 goals scorer that's 24/25.

The answer is..... it's a stupid move that wastes one of our prime assets. If it was a secondary player then maybe that makes more sense. Jeesh i hope Allvin is smarter than that.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Continuing to repeat 7.5M doesn't make it any more true.

This. I want to trade Boeser but people suggesting he’s getting his 7.5 QO are out to lunch. He’ll sign a cheaper bridge deal

 

[Vector]

yes sure he's nice player but the target has to be a top3 cornerstone. Tell me what makes us that much better with Marino instead of Hamonic/Myers/Schenn or a stop gap vs losing a 30 goals scorer that's 24/25.

The answer is..... it's a stupid move that wastes one of our prime assets. If it was a secondary player then maybe that makes more sense. Jeesh i hope Allvin is smarter than that.

Because I don't view Boeser as a 30 goal scorer? He's a fungible complementary scorer who doesn't drive his line and will soon be worth far less than his cap hit. Also somewhat injury prone. I don't know much about Marino. Hell, I don't know much about the vast majority of players in the league. This is exactly what I posted about earlier, though. Most people would be very upset over this trade but I'm fine with it because I just don't view Boeser's value as high as many people do.

 

[Vector]

This. I want to trade Boeser but people suggesting he’s getting his 7.5 QO are out to lunch. He’ll sign a cheaper bridge deal

Why would he?

 

[Blue and Green]

No it wouldn't it would be selling low on a 30goal 60-65 pt player.

Marino for Boeser yikes

I'd consider that one with a 2nd-round pick or B-level prospect added, depending on Boeser' contract demands. Marino's a solid 2nd-pair defenceman and he brings the right attributes at the right position. Not sure about his attitude on getting moved back to western Canada, considering that he refused to sign with the Oilers. Anyway, I doubt that Pittsburgh wants to move Marino; they are in go-for-it mode and would more likely move prospects and draft picks. They'd have to have another deal lined up for a Marino replacement.

If we're using projections and potential that actually hasn't happened then Marino is a 40 point defenceman (almost entirely at EV) signed to an excellent contract for a long time.

That is not a fair comparison of projections because Boeser is a 65-per-82 point producer in his career whereas Marino is a 28-per-82 producer.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Why would he?

Because Canucks won’t QO him at 7.5?….and he won’t get that anywhere else either?

 

[Vector]

Because Canucks won’t QO him at 7.5?….and he won’t get that anywhere else either?

Canucks don't QO him then he walks in free agency and signs a large deal elsewhere. Canucks have no leverage with him.

 

[Vector]

I'd consider that one with a 2nd-round pick or B-level prospect added, depending on Boeser' contract demands. Marino's a solid 2nd-pair defenceman and he brings the right attributes at the right position. Not sure about his attitude on getting moved back to western Canada, considering that he refused to sign with the Oilers. Anyway, I doubt that Pittsburgh wants to move Marino; they are in go-for-it mode and would more likely move prospects and draft picks. They'd have to have another deal lined up for a Marino replacement.



That is not a fair comparison of projections because Boeser is a 65-per-82 point producer in his career whereas Marino is a 28-per-82 producer.

Almost entirely EV too. That's is an extremely valuable player.

 

[Peen]

@VanillaCoke

What do you think the figure would be on a 6-7 year deal?

It won't be 7.5, sure, but i also don't think it will be significantly far off either.

 

[Blue and Green]

Marino has a sub 50CF% and is the only (-) defenseman on the team at -6. Is he just being tasked with matching up against other teams top lines every night? He doesnt put up a ton of points and doesnt play much PP. He isnt a shut down guy either. Tall thinner framed right shot dman, someone tell me why he's that much better than Tucker Poolman. Forgive my ignorance, i dont watch the Pens much!

5v5, Marino is a 53% Corsi guy this season. He's -6 because the Penguins' shooting % when he's been on the ice at 5v5 this season is almost as low as the Canucks' when Boeser has been on the ice this season. Marino is a solid player as a defender and puck mover.

 

[Bankerguy]

5v5, Marino is a 53% Corsi guy this season. He's -6 because the Penguins' shooting % when he's been on the ice at 5v5 this season is almost as low as the Canucks' when Boeser has been on the ice this season. Marino is a solid player as a defender and puck mover.

interesting!

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

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