Speculation: Fantasy GM and Rumor Roundup Thread | "Trader Jim" gearing up for TDL

[Mr. Canucklehead]

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[Mr. Canucklehead]

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[Billy Kvcmu]

Sounds like we are moving Boeser over Miller unless a god tier offer comes around

Which idm, if the team wants to compete in 2 years I would rather have Miller here

Miller fits a lot better than Boeser on JR’s fast team

 

[Vector]

According to the rumours teams are hungry for Miller but the Canucks are more keen to trade Boeser (and Garland?).

 

[iFan]

Sounds like we are moving Boeser over Miller unless a god tier offer comes around

Which idm, if the team wants to compete in 2 years I would rather have Miller here

Miller fits a lot better than Boeser on JR’s fast team

if we’re 2 years away, how good will Miller be in 2-5 years from now because that will be our window opening period, how much will he cost on a new contract. I personally don’t see Miller as a good fit here given where we’re at, Miller is a great fit for a team contending today and for the next few years.

 

[theguardianII]

Sounds like we are moving Boeser over Miller unless a god tier offer comes around

Which idm, if the team wants to compete in 2 years I would rather have Miller here

Miller fits a lot better than Boeser on JR’s fast team

Both and more ASAP

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

if we’re 2 years away, how good will Miller be in 2-5 years from now because that will be our window opening period, how much will he cost on a new contract. I personally don’t see Miller as a good fit here given where we’re at, Miller is a great fit for a team contending today and for the next few years.

I see Boeser being worse in 2 years, he’s already not a good skater, one serious injury away from being washed up

 

[iFan]

I see Boeser being worse in 2 years, he’s already not a good skater, one serious injury away from being washed up

I don’t have an issue moving Boeser…

 

[M2Beezy]

According to the rumours teams are hungry for Miller but the Canucks are more keen to trade Boeser (and Garland?).

Im so intrigued about what will happen. Is JR and Alvin geniuses playing this so well and they do end up trading Miller for a fortune???

But knowing Canuck luck we will end up trading Motte and Schenn at the deadline lol

 

[M2Beezy]

 

[AppleHoneySauce]

this one worries me.

 

[Vector]

A week or so ago I speculated that Andrei Kuzmenko's rise to stardom was because Nikita Gusev joined the team. While I haven't watched any games and do know there is a major affect to having a star join, the basic stats are much more interesting than I thought. I went through all of their game logs to figure this out.

First note is that Gusev didn't played any games until Oct 15th. Kuzmenko played 15 games to start the season without Gusev. During that time he had 3 goals and 13 assists (3-13=16 in 15 games). In the 30 games they played together, Kuzmenko had 17 goals and 20 assists (17-20=37 in 30 games). That's quite the goal scoring jump.

This is where things get interesting. Kuzmenko scored 4 goals assisted by Gusev and had 8 assists where they both joined in on the scored play or assisted on a Gusev goal (4-8=12 in 30 games). Every one of those 12 points was scored on the PP. At even strength Kuzmenko played with Joonas Kempainen and Anton Burdasov. Of Kuzmenko's 20 goals, 15 were even strength.

So my initial suspicion was off. Kuzmenko's numbers were inflated a bit by playing with Gusev on the PP but he was over a point per game without Gusev and has done the majority of his damage at EV without him.

 

[Nucker101]

Why is it that they have to move both Boeser and Garland to keep Miller? I know they want to free up cap but moving Garland who’s on a solid value deal seems counterintuitive for a team trying to get the most bang out of their buck.

And trading away your best 5v5 producer seems dumb too

Oh well, I enjoyed Garland’s short stint here, fun player to watch

 

[M2Beezy]

 

[Vector]

I don't think the team feels they have to move Garland, rather the players teams are most interested in are the ones signed to good contracts and producing at a high rate. Miller and Garland are the most attractive pieces on the team. Boeser still has a bunch of value to many teams so he's a strong candidate to move as well. I'm skeptical Garland gets moved unless it's for some kind of great return.

For those wondering what the Avs have in their war chest.

Colorado Avalanche

Player Name

Position

Cap Hit

Contract Status

Terms

Age

Status

Level

2022 Draft Picks

Unsigned Players

Tyson Jost

FW

2.0m

1 Year (RFA)

N/A

23

Active

NHL

3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th

Name

Position

Age

Level

Alex Newhook

C

0.908m

1 Year (RFA)

ELC

21

Active

NHL

Matthew Stienburg

C

21

College

Bowen Byram

LD

0.893m

1 Year (RFA)

ELC

20

LTIR

NHL

2023 Draft Picks

Drew Helleson

RD

20

College

Mikhail Maltsev

LW

0.809m

RFA

ELC

23

Active

AHL/NHL

1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th

Sean Behrens

LD

18

College

Oskar Olausson

RW

0.925m

3 Year (RFA)

ELC

19

Active

Junior

Martin Kaut

RW

0.863m

1 Year (RFA)

ELC

22

Active

AHL/NHL

2024 Draft Picks

Justin Barron

RD

0.925m

2 Year (RFA)

ELC

20

Active

AHL

1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th

Needs

-penalty killers

-veteran defensive depth

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Nucker101]

Seems that way to me too. People keep saying “well everyone should be available for the right deal, especially outside of Hughes/Demko/EP”

Yet there’s way more smoke around Garland, Boeser compared to a guy like Horvat.

Clearly those 2 are players that management isn’t too attached too. Doesn’t mean they’ll be traded for garbage but it also means that they aren’t viewed as long-term fits here

 

[bossram]

Sounds like we are moving Boeser over Miller unless a god tier offer comes around

Which idm, if the team wants to compete in 2 years I would rather have Miller here

Miller fits a lot better than Boeser on JR’s fast team

Miller is gone in two years. I truly think he does not want to re-sign here, and even if he would, the contract will be exorbitant - beyond the Landeskog contract for certain.

He's the team's most valuable trade chip. He should be the guy to move.

 

[iFan]

The management team is worried about the message being sent to the players if they trade a big name… ? Really? The team has played themselves into this spot, we shouldn’t be worried about that at all but how to be a competitive team in the near future. This management group needs some balls, stop worrying about hurting players feelings because of their poor on ice performance is on them, even the coach is getting annoyed with the players poor starts. I’m actually a bit worried that this group is more worried about PR than about building a cup winning team.

 

[bossram]

this one worries me.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

"Were within 5 points of the playoffs, we can't possibly sell!!!"

...even though they still have to jump 3-4 teams to have any chance.

 

[Breakers]

First off: Garland has drawn 40% more penalties than the next closest guy on this roster
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Second: Garland still has about 20% more 5v5 point than the next closest guy on this roster
(we're bottom 5 in the league in the league in 5v5 scoring)

If you tell me a guy who is 25 and does that isn't in their long term plans

over the last 3 seasons he is top 10 in the league in penalties drawn with the likes of McDavid, the Tkachuks, Marchand, Mackinnon, Pastrnak etc

 

[Vector]

The people that hang out and call themselves "Canucks Twitter" have some giant egos.

 

[Nucker101]

First off: Garland has drawn 40% more penalties than the next closest guy on this roster
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Second: Garland still has about 20% more 5v5 point than the next closest guy on this roster
(we're bottom 5 in the league in the league in 5v5 scoring)

If you tell me a guy who is 25 and does that isn't in their long term plans

over the last 3 seasons he is top 10 in the league in penalties drawn with the likes of McDavid, the Tkachuks, Marchand, Mackinnon, Pastrnak etc

If they don’t get something pretty damn good in return I’m gonna laugh

 

[Nucker101]

So the agents are offended by Twitter but the players like Vancouver?

 

[M2Beezy]

So the agents are offended by Twitter but the players like Vancouver?

Yeah like wtf is the connection. Not just Canucks fans but all hockey fans say the craziest shit on twitter, shouldnt be taken seriously

 

[iFan]

I think the Canucks are making a mistake moving Garland right now, let’s remember we gave up the 9th overall for him, if he’s moved it better be a better return than that because we also took on OEL contract.

It blows my mind they’re looking at moving Garland and keeping Miller… Miller is the better player and a rare player but no need holding onto him during a 2+ year retool when he’ll be in his 30’s on a retirement contract when we’re gearing up to compete. This is really a lack of foresight, seeing who Miller is today and thinking he’ll still have that same impact in 3-5 years from now. This is really concerning of this management group, hopefully they do the right things and not more of the same that we’re used to seeing here.