F Jagger Firkus - Moose Jaw Warriors, WHL (2022, 35th, SEA)

[Reddawg]

He’ll likely get called back imo

Canada left a forward spot open hoping that Zach Benson or Matthew Poirras will be made available, if neither player is released Firkus will probably get that spot. Or Riley Heidt possibly.

 

[My3Sons]

Jagger is nothing without Richards.

 

[Reddawg]

Canada left a forward spot open hoping that Zach Benson or Matthew Poirras will be made available, if neither player is released Firkus will probably get that spot. Or Riley Heidt possibly.

With Jeff Skinner going to IR it's now much less likely that Zach Benson will be released for the WJC due to the need for him to play top six minutes with the Sabres.

 

[BondraTime]

Canada left a forward spot open hoping that Zach Benson or Matthew Poirras will be made available, if neither player is released Firkus will probably get that spot. Or Riley Heidt possibly.

Heidt obviously won't be brought

 

[Bubbles]

The kid flew to Sweden, never played a game, he's back and has a 1G, 4A night tonight.

 

[lanky]

The kid flew to Sweden, never played a game, he's back and has a 1G, 4A night tonight.

Yeah but he couldn't have done anything useful for team Canada. And they didn't need goals or assists anyways.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

22 points in his last 6 games... lol

15 game point streak; 10+25=35

3 points shy of 80 points, (in 37 games).

 

[Sombastate]

What’s his honest ceiling v floor? Is he almost a guarantee NHLer

 

[luapejrug]

What’s his honest ceiling v floor? Is he almost a guarantee NHLer

Sidney Crosby

 

[Craig Ludwig]

22 points in his last 6 games... lol

15 game point streak; 10+25=35

3 points shy of 80 points, (in 37 games).

Holy Crap...Why is this kid so low on Prospect Lists, Dobber has him at #50 of forwards. What am I missing?

 

[Intangir]

Holy Crap...Why is this kid so low on Prospect Lists, Dobber has him at #50 of forwards. What am I missing?

He is certainly slept on a bit, but there is more to it than just that.

Taken on his own, Firkus definitely shows great potential as a possible future top 6 player in the NHL as he is really skilled, fast, sees the ice well, and his shot is good too.

But Firkus similarly has a couple of glaring flaws as a player that make him quite hard to reliably project at the NHL-level and may ultimately preclude him from being a good NHLer.

The simple fact of the matter is that right now Firkus is extremely light and weak physically by NHL standards, plays an immature "junior" type of game in how he produces offense, is quite soft, and definitely below-average defensively for the NHL.

Worse, Firkus also does not really have any elite defining trait right now (again, elite vs. other NHLers, not junior-level players) that could elevate his game past projectability concerns teams might have with him, or questions about how he'd hold up physically against tight NHL checking.

So yeah, with more strength/weight, fortuitous adjustments here and there, progression all-around and the like Firkus could end up a significant contributor in the NHL and great piece for Seattle.

But Firkus could also end up sharing Heponiemi's fate, and never manage to put on the weight/muscle necessary for him to be effective at the pro level.

And to me, that is because of that risk factor, lack of projectability at the pro level, combined with a certain "underrated-ness" of his that leads Firkus to being rated lower on lists like Dobberprospects than most would like.

 

[Craig Ludwig]

He is certainly slept on a bit, but there is more to it than just that.

Taken on his own, Firkus definitely shows great potential as a possible future top 6 player in the NHL as he is really skilled, fast, sees the ice well, and his shot is good too.

But Firkus similarly has a couple of glaring flaws as a player that make him quite hard to reliably project at the NHL-level and may ultimately preclude him from being a good NHLer.

The simple fact of the matter is that right now Firkus is extremely light and weak physically by NHL standards, plays an immature "junior" type of game in how he produces offense, is quite soft, and definitely below-average defensively for the NHL.

Worse, Firkus also does not really have any elite defining trait right now (again, elite vs. other NHLers, not junior-level players) that could elevate his game past projectability concerns teams might have with him, or questions about how he'd hold up physically against tight NHL checking.

So yeah, with more strength/weight, fortuitous adjustments here and there, progression all-around and the like Firkus could end up a significant contributor in the NHL and great piece for Seattle.

But Firkus could also end up sharing Heponiemi's fate, and never manage to put on the weight/muscle necessary for him to be effective at the pro level.

And to me, that is because of that risk factor, lack of projectability at the pro level, combined with a certain "underrated-ness" of his that leads Firkus to being rated lower on lists like Dobberprospects than most would like.

Great response, thanks. I actually thought the same about the Heponiemi comparison

 

[Reddawg]

The Dobber lists also change extremely slowly if they change at all.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

4th hat-trick of the season, almost matched his point total from last season (6 points shy)
in about 30 fewer games

 

[Eegs]

WTH, this guy!

 

[Satan]

Hes Firked up

 

[Artorius Horus T]

120 goals (255 points) in his last 176 games in the WHL
- with 600+ sog

 

[Artorius Horus T]

49 goals, 106 points this season in 55 games so far.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

congrats! - 300 career points

he scored Franchose record, 9th career hat trick.
this season so far = 56 goals, 116 points (1.96 ppg)

 

[Artorius Horus T]

2 more goals

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Last Moose Jaw player U20, who has scored 120 points or more?
88-89 season, 19 year old Blair Atcheynum (139 points)

Last Moose Jaw player U20, who has led the team in points 3 seasons in a row?
85-86 -> 87-88, 19 year old Theo Fleury

Last Moose Jaw player U20, who has scored 100+ career goals, 300+ career points?
Theo Fleury

 

[Chainshot]

2nd goal of the night, 60th of the season and it's a lacrosse goal. Damn. I'll post the video when MJ puts it up on their Twitter.

 

[Chainshot]

Razzle dazzle -

 

[Bubbles]

Razzle dazzle -

Kid's got 60 and leading point getter in the WHL. Where are the Kraken fans to pump his tires?

 

[Chainshot]

got 60 and leading point getter in the WHL. Where are the Kraken fans to pump his tires?

I'm not a Kraken fan, but I've seen about 30 of his games this year - he's so much fun and so dangerous. Seattle should be able to generate offensively through him without the puck having to come off Dunn's stick. His shot, shot selection and willingness to get to places to use it effectively... it's enviable with someone who went at 35OA.