That's some grade A petty jealousy right there.
"Man, I can't wait till he goes bankrupt so he comes crawling back. That'll show him!"
Is this a recurring fantasy for you?
No, I'm just stating the fact that we have in front of us a fully grown men whining about the fact that instead of making 4M$ next year he'll making a 100K$ or 200K$ less and that's just enough for throwing the towel and that the money is just not there to keep playing.
I loved Erik's energy last year he was one of the only good points about the last season. But he's only 34yrs old and we're going into a shortened 48 games season, now he's saying he wants to retire cause of the PA's deal wasn't good enough?
w.t.f is that? it's outright nonsensical 'I don't know the value of money' talk.
I said by what means will retiring better his situation?
If he came out saying I want to retire cause I want to concentrate of my kids and other things in life, that's ok... But he didn't!
he said that the new CBA deal just isn't enough for him, so I say alright retire I hope you'll one day know the value of money.
See, here's what I don't get: how does the fact that these players are rich change what is and is not reasonable for them to do in relation to their salary and careers? Why do you expect players to act differently than you would? Have you ever had your salary reduced? I'm just wondering.
Well, first of all, he did say he enjoyed being around his family and it would factor into his decision. But beyond that the standards you are placing on him are ridiculous. He's not even allowed to have an opinion on the quality of the deal that the NHLPA signed which saw the players give ubiquitously without being criticized.
It sounds like distilled belly-aching to me. "They make 80 times the per capita GDP, and they're whining. I hope one day they learn the value of money." Are they supposed to feel guilty about that? Am I supposed to feel guilty about having a superior career path to many people? Should I behave differently in salary negotiations? Am I not allowed to defend my bottom line?
Wow... lots of complaining going down already.
Puck hasn't even dropped.
If Cole retires , it is actually a fantastic contract we gave him in retrospective.Part of the contract was gambling on his last two years and giving him a lot of money despite his eventual age.If he does quit , we'll have profit from his two years where he was still under 35.I'm not sure exactly why people are so upset?
It is his personal life , his 13 years old (or so) daughter might have some problem here , you never know what is going on in the family.All kind of ****.If his wife and daughter aren't happy for some reasons or he thinks his daughter will turn out better at another school in another city , it might be best for his own private life to quit if the money isn't a problem.
People are so defensive it's unbelievable.This is nothing personal against the Montreal Canadiens.Why exactly should a man sacrifice his private life to play for the Montreal Canadiens? If he's willing to sacrifice 8 million then maybe these private issues are truly important to him , and I don't understand why people can't respect that.It seems the habs fans think the players owe them everything.It's his life , respect this.Can we say he didn't give his all when he was on the ice?! He scored 35 goals ffs.Be grateful.
You are missing the point entirely.
He said he thinks everyone should quit after reading the CBA. He also said it was a sacrifice to play here, and that schools were crap.
Now, he can have whatever opinion he wants to have. But if it's Pejorative Slured stuff like that, he should keep it to himself and not create controversy needlessly. Also no middle class people want to hear about how this terrible CBA will make him a slave. After a long lockout like this these type of comments are insulting at best.
It's this little thing called common sense which he apparently lacks in even the smallest of amounts.
I'm sorry but I think it's you that is missing the point.First of all he never said ''the schools are crap here''.Preferring to send his daughter to schools in her hometown when she is entering highschool (which is probably the most crucial moment in someone's life path , I could talk about it for hours) isn't the same as saying the schools are crap.I remember when I was 12 years old , one thing I wouldn't have wanted is definitely that my father brought me to another city when I'm chilling with my friends and building my personality and life during puberty.Those are sacrifices.
Of course he had 4 millions per year to console himself , but maybe the money wasn't as much consolations to his family , and a unhappy family could lead you to reconsider things.No matter how much money you make moving your family that include teenagers to a new town is a sacrifice.Money can't buy everything , and you know Erik Cole is an old player , he already has a lot of money , so his quality of life won't necessarily step up that much with the last 8 millions in the bank.Maybe it would truly be preferable for his family to stay at home on a long-term level.If he thinks it's best for his daughter why should he sacrifice and gamble this? To play for the Montreal Canadiens? I'm sorry but the Montreal Canadiens would finish 2nd to my family and I'm a Montreal guy.He isn't.
It seems he didn't appreciate the new deal , so with what I already said if he lose more money on top of it , the choice is beginning to make more and more sense in his mind.I'm fine with it , he gave us good hockey.
I'm sorry but I think it's you that is missing the point.First of all he never said ''the schools are crap here''.Preferring to send his daughter to schools in her hometown when she is entering highschool (which is probably the most crucial moment in someone's life path , I could talk about it for hours) isn't the same as saying the schools are crap.I remember when I was 12 years old , one thing I wouldn't have wanted is definitely that my father brought me to another city when I'm chilling with my friends and building my personality and life during puberty.Those are sacrifices.
Of course he had 4 millions per year to console himself , but maybe the money wasn't as much consolations to his family , and a unhappy family could lead you to reconsider things.No matter how much money you make moving your family that include teenagers to a new town is a sacrifice.Money can't buy everything , and you know Erik Cole is an old player , he already has a lot of money , so his quality of life won't necessarily step up that much with the last 8 millions in the bank.Maybe it would truly be preferable for his family to stay at home on a long-term level.If he thinks it's best for his daughter why should he sacrifice and gamble this? To play for the Montreal Canadiens? I'm sorry but the Montreal Canadiens would finish 2nd to my family and I'm a Montreal guy.He isn't.
It seems he didn't appreciate the new deal , so with what I already said if he lose more money on top of it , the choice is beginning to make more and more sense in his mind.I'm fine with it , he gave us good hockey.
I've got a question for you. Do you think he is considering retiring or blowing hot air?
If he wants to retire, that's fine, he has every right to, for all the reasons you mentioned above, but, if he is just running his mouth, like he did towards Roman Hamrlik, then he needs to ****.
There is a time and a place for everything, you don't come out days before camp and whine about negotiations and how they impacted you financially and decide now that you will think about retiring next year. He's planning on playing this year at least, he has never indicated anything to suggest he isn't. Those conversations should be reserved for him and management in private and at the end of the year as he is already committed to playing this season.
I can't imagine what the reaction would be if Cammy or one of the other scape goats from last year had have voiced similar Pejorative Slured comments, they would of been stoned to death.
As a professional athlete you should act in a manner that is professional and in the best interest of both yourself and those who write your cheques.
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Could he simply have think about it in private? Sure.Are those comments bad enough to deserve the kind of reactions you would expect from a bunch of hysterical schoolgirls? No.
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Of course Cole's behavior isn't the most sympathetic at the moment , but reacting that strongly to it is juvenile at best.
You're the one reading too much into things. People think what he said was dumb and that he lacked common sense. They don't know Cole personally and they're on the internet. You're the one calling people you are actually interacting with schoolgirls. Who's truly getting sensitive here?
You're the one reading too much into things. People think what he said was dumb and that he lacked common sense. They don't know Cole personally and they're on the internet. You're the one calling people you are actually interacting with schoolgirls. Who's truly getting sensitive here?
Exactly, and 99% of the negative respondants haven't had children yet and are clueless to the difference of life at home with your kids and being on the road forever !!
Plus there is NOT a chance that it's RDS starting crap. I heard what he said, but under what context ( the only clip we hear is the part of him deciding at the end of the season over and over again ) and maybe he was having a bad day !