hatterson
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Liverpool enjoy one of the most successful runs in their history and 5 games into a season after winning two domestic cups and going to the CL finals the pitchforks are out because they’re not spending enough money.
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Chimaera
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We have had it a few times in that situation.
It is certainly frustrating for some. Even more so, as this is HF Futures, and new, and better is always exciting.
But Klopp, Edwards, Ward, whomever, have more than earned the right to do it how they want to do things. It's tough when sure, they could add another part and likely push on a touch, but we don't know if that fits the room's mentality or what they've promised some players in house.
They've been out before long.
I've certainly been one to frustrate on the net spend. But it's worked. They've been one of the best teams I'll ever see.
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Yeah I have 0 clue why Liverpool would have any issues with how the club is currently run. I’d kill to consistently be in the top 4 nonetheless be a consistent CL final threat.
bluesfan94
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Money only counts when it's net and also don't forget wages and installments and ignore other transfers and also it's only initial fees whereas addons are counted in net received and blah blah blah.
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Do you think that midfield is good enough to run it back?
Where is the lie though? Who did your teams have to sell to accommodate new buys? Did you have to sell any BDO finalists recently? I’m not the one making up transfer fees to try and prove a point here.
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You can think the club is run well AND think they pooped the bed during a transfer window. These things aren’t exclusive to each other.
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It's mental. I was there last night, he must have touched the ball about a dozen times and he has a hat trick. He's just there when he needs to be, so f***ing irritating.
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It's Cardinals fans complaining about not spending with the tip top spending teams. Both teams do spend quite a bit to have elite players, and are just generally very well run clubs, that are consistently in the running for Cups/Titles/Playoffs. Those aren't things to complain about. Would they really rather be in the position that United is currently in? I know as a Chelsea fan, I'd love to have a consistent vision and managerial stability.
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It's a money issue.
I won't go into much details but the Melo loan deal is certainly a good example of that.
They don't like spending money even in term of crisis like right now.
It depends if you dwell on the past and don't see the iceberg coming your way.
They clearly have irritated their golden goose this summer. Klopp has shown more frustration to the media than he ever did and contrary to popular belief he is a very rational thinker and not the over reactionary type.
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100%. I’d much rather spend less money and have an owner that gives a shit about the club and it’s results. Spending money means f*** all really if there’s plan and vision.
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How is the Arthur deal an example. It's a loan, which is better than overpaying for a bad fit, so it doesn't impact the ability to go after better targets in the next window or 2. Which, according to all reports, you guys want to pursue Bellingham.
Sure, if when this core ages out and needs to be replaced, and then no money is spent, then you'd have a point. I don't think there's been any indication that will be the case though. Liverpool spends enough money when they have to in the spots they need to.
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bleedblue1223
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Boo-hoo, they are a consistent top 5 payroll team, so thanks for proving my point. And 4 WS during his ownership, Boston fans should be grateful for that ownership group. Or how it took FSG to be the ones to bring Liverpool their first EPL title.
Maybe you are agreeing with me though? Just assuming you are agreeing with Boston fans complaining about Henry.
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Mount Suribachi
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It's like if Solskjaer was 6-4 and quicker and stronger than everyone else. He always finds space, he always goes where defenders aren't, rebounds and deflections always seem to find their way to him.
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Mount Suribachi
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This team is coming to the end of its cycle, your core players are 29-31. It happens, and its been a pretty successful few years for you guys all told. Even Fergies teams had down years as they went through the cycle and had to be rebuilt, and it was never done in one transfer window.
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Oh I agree with you. Ownership can be good at some things and bad at other things. The grass can always be greener. FSG is still better than most, but they absolutely make mistakes. Red Sox won a World Series and then they traded Mookie Betts because they didn’t want got pay him, and look at their descent since then. LFC fans don’t want similar.
It’s like flying a plane while you are building its wings. This has not been a strength for Liverpool either and you can see the gaps in the squad. Next summer they are going to have to replace three midfielders probably. It’s insane to have to do that in one window.
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That's fair, and agree. There will likely be a transition period when your current core ages out, so then it comes down to scouting and recruitment. I'd have more faith than not that they'll have a successful plan.
And maybe some of the sentiment is being scared of a post-Klopp life because you all remember what it was like before Klopp. I can get that too.
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Sure. I mean you have to trust the infrastructure right? That being said they have a lot of work to do and the majority of it is being pushed for next summer. They have A LOT to do. Especially in midfield.
Chimaera
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I think one top midfielder in next summer and it’s a different discussion. Two and it’s a completely different one as well
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I mean maybe this year is a slight transition year for Liverpool? But I mean they’re already doing a good job of laying the groundwork for the next core group. Konaté and TAA are both 23. Jones and Elliott are 19 and 21. Jota, Diaz, and Nunez are 23 and 25.
I mean for a club run as well as you guys are that’s an easy core to build around. Obviously replacing Salah probably will be a downgrade, but adding a big CM next year and I’d guess a CB in the near future should set you guys up for another go at PL and CL contention. I really don’t get the doom and gloom.
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I'm honestly not that concerned about our results this season yet. I am concerned that we have only two midfielders without a long injury history. It seems like somebody should know better.
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Keita, Chamberlain and (probably) Milner are going to be out. That’s three bodies. And that’s not taking any additional numbers to the squad.
