GWT: EPL - Matchweek 4

[JeffreyLFC]

Antony has no reason to start above Sancho and even less above Garnacho.

 

[Live in the Now]

Yeah Antony’s gotten a free pass. The guy is a bum.

 

[hatterson]

Antony seems to buy himself about 10 games worth of free passes for every curler from the corner of the box he scores.

Since he seems to score those about once every 10 games that seems to keep him about level.

 

[KJS14]

I don't think there's literally a single person on this forum who would pay more for Havertz too. But well, football is weird sometimes

I would definitely have preferred Szoboszlai's profile in our midfield over Havertz, and I think we paid too much for him. But there's no reason to write him off already. Let him come off the bench for a little while rather than start? Sure, I'm in favor of that.

This forum consists of people that tell us you can only get backup quality players for 50M these days, and then in another thread laugh about how much Havertz cost based on his overall ok performances through 4 weeks.

 

[Jussi]

 

[S E P H]

He probably knows a lot better than us. Is he better than Antony now? Easily, but if he ain't showing it during the week, then he gets what he deserves.

 

[Peen]

Saka’s obviously become a great player, but sometimes I watch him and it’s very clear as to why CHO was seen as a tier above him prior to CHO destroying his knee.

 

[hatterson]

Seems like Sancho took ETHs comments as bashing his effort in training as opposed to his quality and decided to make a big drama of it. I’m sure that’ll endear him well.

 

[KJS14]

Saka’s obviously become a great player, but sometimes I watch him and it’s very clear as to why CHO was seen as a tier above him prior to CHO destroying his knee.

Odd comment...

Seems like Sancho took ETHs comments as bashing his effort in training as opposed to his quality and decided to make a big drama of it. I’m sure that’ll endear him well.

Is Sancho maybe calling out the press that took ETH's comment as though he's not putting in effort during training? He does say "I respect all decisions that are made by the coaching staff," but idk. Either way, it probably doesn't do him any good.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

That’s a gross hyperbole

We're closing in on a decade of a fall from grace. From being challengers of the Champions League, to now barely doing anything in Europa. By the next two seasons they will be fighting for Conference League. Without a wholesale change in mindset they will fall just like Sunderland did years ago.

It that Barcelona or AC Milan?

Barcelona had a few seasons where they looked shaky, but have since rebounded. United have only been on a downtrend.
AC Milan are the closest comparable, but they weren't as dominating as United was in their respective league.

 

[maclean]

Havertz has gotten into good positions and has done good defensive/pressing work in the midfield. It's been four matches. I'm not writing him off yet.

Maybe we need to move him even farther back, like into defence?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

We're closing in on a decade of a fall from grace. From being challengers of the Champions League, to now barely doing anything in Europa. By the next two seasons they will be fighting for Conference League. Without a wholesale change in mindset they will fall just like Sunderland did years ago.



Barcelona had a few seasons where they looked shaky, but have since rebounded. United have only been on a downtrend.
AC Milan are the closest comparable, but they weren't as dominating as United was in their respective league.

AC Milan won a Serie A like two years ago and was in CL semis just last season. Man United hasn't approached that in years.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Seems like Sancho took ETHs comments as bashing his effort in training as opposed to his quality and decided to make a big drama of it. I’m sure that’ll endear him well.

What a baby. ETH’s comments were harsh out out of line. But now he’s a scapegoat? ETH has been far more lenient than he had to with Sancho giving him a 3 month hiatus to get sorted out.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

We're closing in on a decade of a fall from grace. From being challengers of the Champions League, to now barely doing anything in Europa. By the next two seasons they will be fighting for Conference League. Without a wholesale change in mindset they will fall just like Sunderland did years ago.

Game's changed united has too much brand power to ever go the way of the dodo bird. THey outspend 99% of teams and that's not likely to change. Hell they might even get on City level if the owners sell. Relegation isnt happening...

What a baby. ETH’s comments were harsh out out of line. But now he’s a scapegoat? ETH has been far more lenient than he had to with Sancho giving him a 3 month hiatus to get sorted out.

Is it even harsh? Only those who are attending the training sessions know if Sancho has been lazy. Given everything we know, its pretty likely he was. Was ETH right to go to the press? Maybe, maybe not but he hardly crucified him.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Game's changed united has too much brand power to ever go the way of the dodo bird. THey outspend 99% of teams and that's not likely to change. Hell they might even get on City level if the owners sell. Relegation isnt happening...


Is it even harsh? Only those who are attending the training sessions know if Sancho has been lazy. Given everything we know, it’s pretty likely he was. Was ETH right to go to the press? Maybe, maybe not but he hardly crucified him.

Oops, meant “weren’t harsh.”

 

[Gecklund]

In what world has Sancho been better than Antony? Neither has been good enough but they offer the same going forward and Antony at least tracks back. I’d be fine getting rid of both but I don’t see any way Sancho has been better than Antony.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

In what world has Sancho been better than Antony? Neither has been good enough but they offer the same going forward and Antony at least tracks back. I’d be fine getting rid of both but I don’t see any way Sancho has been better than Antony.

Antony gets underneath everyones skin... so he's worse for rival fans. Sancho is just kinda there

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Game's changed united has too much brand power to ever go the way of the dodo bird. THey outspend 99% of teams and that's not likely to change. Hell they might even get on City level if the owners sell. Relegation isnt happening...

No, relegation isn't happening soon.
A couple more 80/90M dollar players busting will lead to it though.
Their name recognition is also losing steam with other teams in England, specifically Manchester City, becoming household names.
The new generation of Manchester youngsters will align more with the winning team. That's a given.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

No, relegation isn't happening soon.
A couple more 80/90M dollar players busting will lead to it though.
Their name recognition is also losing steam with other teams in England, specifically Manchester City, becoming household names.
The new generation of Manchester youngsters will align more with the winning team. That's a given.

Look at how far they are from regelation… it’s just not realistic. This isn’t a bad team.

Nah maybe 20-30 years. This is the equivalent of Americans thinking they’ll be a top nation in football “soon”

 

[S E P H]

United won't ever get relegated, they can't spend on players because they're spending too much of those funds in the refs back pocket.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

United won't ever get relegated, they can't spend on players because they're spending too much of those funds in the refs back pocket.

Ya it win all those trophies recently….

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Just saw a replay of when Gabriel dragged Hojlund down in the box. Shocking that wasn't a penalty.

 

[hatterson]

Just saw a replay of when Gabriel dragged Hojlund down in the box. Shocking that wasn't a penalty.

It was hard to tell what happened live and the broadcast didn’t show a replay that I saw.

 

[LOGiK]

Arsenal again pulling out lucky goals to win in the 90th minute. Still continues from last seasons 3 or so integral late match winners to keep them in top finish contention.
Man U again getting absolutely destroyed in the middle... I said they look to be missing a key piece in the middle, but maybe it's much more than that.
Man U probably slide to bottom 10 this year... switch places with Spurs from last year looking like a complete mess.

 

[LOGiK]

The best part of that match was Garnacho celebrating that The Emirates was "his house" after he scored and then his goal got called offsides like thirty seconds later lol. Uno reverse card mate.

Kissing his badge... but give him a massive pay day elsewhere and he'd kiss that badge too. A gesture without meaning. Now if he kisses a pound note or dollar or whatever... that'd be real.