GWT: EPL - Matchweek 1

[blkhawk]

New season same old shit

 

[King Makar19]

Webb= ManU fan

 

[Live in the Now]

Nobody on the pitch is allowed to plow into other players when they miss the ball. Dunno how anyone would need this explained to them.

 

[Savant]

Utd is back baby. Refs terrified to give PKs against the home team this Matchweek I guess

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Missed this rigged league so damn much.

 

[Jussi]

Nobody on the pitch is allowed to plow into other players when they miss the ball. Dunno how anyone would need this explained to them.

Except keepers, the most protected species on the planet.

 

[S E P H]

Nobody on the pitch is allowed to plow into other players when they miss the ball. Dunno how anyone would need this explained to them.

You should see Jussi in the entertainment thread, every single Marvel movie in his eyes deserves Oscar nominees.

 

[Jussi]

Just cause you're reaching for the ball doesn't mean any contact after that isn't a foul. He went up for a challenge, totally missed the ball, and then clattered the attacking player.

And I can't remember a single time a penalty has been given for that.

 

[hatterson]

It's one thing to give the keeper the benefit of the doubt when it's a situation like earlier on the Wolves keeper where Antony tried to chip him and the keeper bumped into him a bit afterwards. In those situations the contact isn't significant and it's a much more natural "save" type motion.

But in this case he tried to come out to intercept a cross, completely misjudged it and clattered the attacker with a decent amount of force. If he had just bumped him with the body, they it's a whole lot of nothing, but the arms swinging down onto him are what really makes it a foul and thus it should have been a pen.

 

[S E P H]

I have no problem whatsoever if the keeper hits the ball and follows through with his arms in a negative way. I have a problem when Onana is ten seconds late to the ball and still follows through with a punching motion by getting a full-on 0% of the ball.

 

[Jussi]

It's one thing to give the keeper the benefit of the doubt when it's a situation like earlier on the Wolves keeper where Antony tried to chip him and the keeper bumped into him a bit afterwards. In those situations the contact isn't significant and it's a much more natural "save" type motion.

But in this case he tried to come out to intercept a cross, completely misjudged it and clattered the attacker with a decent amount of force. If he had just bumped him with the body, they it's a whole lot of nothing, but the arms swinging down onto him are what really makes it a foul and thus it should have been a pen.

But keepers are allowed to go for crosses. In fact, I've seen it with the Finnish national team games where a keeper misses a cross slightly, bumps into a player, goes down and gets a free kick. Keepers have been getting the benefit of the doubt for years. Reverse the situation and if United had been awarded a penalty, the very same people would be fuming about that too!

 

[hatterson]

But keepers are allowed to go for crosses. In fact, I've seen it with the Finnish national team games where a keeper misses a cross slightly, bumps into a player, goes down and gets a free kick. Keepers have been getting the benefit of the doubt for years. Reverse the situation and if United had been awarded a penalty, the very same people would be fuming about that too!

If it was just body to body contact I don't think anyone would have said anything about it. The issue was the arm swing.

 

[Jussi]

If it was just body to body contact I don't think anyone would have said anything about it. The issue was the arm swing.

Well he was reaching for the ball. He had no time to react after missing on it.

 

[bluesfan94]

When has a goalkeeper been penalized for missing on a cross? I don't remember a single case.

Szczesny in the WC

 

[Jussi]

Szczesny in the WC

That was on Messi though, he's even more protected than goalkeepers.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

United did not look good. Hope I can say the same next weekend.

Refereeing has been trash most games.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

When has a goalkeeper been penalized for missing on a cross? I don't remember a single case.

I gave it like ten minutes trying to find the penalty Matt Ryan gave up against West Ham for Alkmaar in the Conference League. If you manage to find video post it, but pretty much clattered Bowen exactly like this.

 

[Jussi]

United should just be put on a separate table with calls like that.

Well you certainly changed your view on those calls compared to the penalty given to Argentina vs Poland at the World Cup:

GWT: - World Cup - Group C (Poland and Argentina Advance)

KSA should have taken the lead Does anyone else with FotMob getting their KSA x Mexico updates in Arabic text? (Mine just switched back)

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As did Live In The Now:

GWT: - World Cup - Group C (Poland and Argentina Advance)

KSA should have taken the lead Does anyone else with FotMob getting their KSA x Mexico updates in Arabic text? (Mine just switched back)

forums.hfboards.com

As did Hatterson:

GWT: - World Cup - Group C (Poland and Argentina Advance)

KSA should have taken the lead Does anyone else with FotMob getting their KSA x Mexico updates in Arabic text? (Mine just switched back)

forums.hfboards.com

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I mean it’s clearly a penalty no one is allowed to hit another player In the box without getting the ball. This is basic.

 

[Live in the Now]

I didn't change my opinion. Onana clatters into both of them with both hands and with his body, and the ball stayed in play too. That didn't happen in the WC call. In the WC the keeper brushed Messi with his hand when the ball is going out.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Trying to compare those two plays is moronic. Szczesny is reaching for a ball and misses it by inches with Messi behind him. Onana has the play completely in front of him, misjudges the play pretty much as badly as possible, and takes out the attacker with the full force of his body.

There’s missing, and then there’s missing.

 

[hatterson]

Szczesny also didn't swing his arm across Messi. He reached up to block a cross and barely missed.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Szczesny also didn't swing his arm across Messi. He reached up to block a cross and barely missed.

Which was always called for a penalty wrongly. Probably not the reference point someone arguing against a penalty would want to me make lol

 

[Venkman]

Terrible performance. Midfield was overun all game, the gap between Casemiro and Bruno/Mount was too big. Bruno's pass to AWB before the goal was nice.

 

[Live in the Now]

Wolves were told it should have been a penalty btw