Elias Pettersson Milestone Thread

[Doctor No]

Here’s a quote from TSN

Who at TSN?

 

[Motte and Bailey]

Who at TSN?

It is from their professional analytics expert Travis Yost

 

[daver]

You’re saying if McDavid has 0 secondary assists this year you won’t change your claim?

Here’s a quote from TSN about secondary assists...

I am saying the ignoring 2nd assists completely goes against the connection between elite playmaking and generating offense for your team.

It presumes that a great playmaker can only influence scoring with a direct assist when the stats clearly show this is not the case.

 

[daver]

The TSN article does not exclude defensemen.

 

[Razz]

Petterson is a special player. Happy for the Canucks, they have themselves a franchise player. Looking forward to their resurgence in the next couple of years.

 

[I am toxic]

Nor is P/60 the stat either. He needs more time regardless to try to position him against others. If he is as good as his P/60 makes him out to be, TOI should be irrelevant as it is with the elite offensive forwards in the league.

P60 may or may not, but there is no question that it is better than PPG when comparing players with significantly different TOI.

But I think we are mostly in agreement on the result of any analysis - need to pump the brakes, no one is currently in McDavid's class and no amount of cherry-picking stats will change that.

 

[McOvechking]

Pettersson is 27th in the league in points per game. Let's pump the breaks. Incredible player, maybe even a top 10 guy in a year or two, but he's a rookie. Is anyone calling Barzal one of the best players in the league? They're producing similar numbers in their rookie seasons.

 

[Ace of Hades]

The only reason he's ahead of Marner is because his linemates are far more talented.

I didnt realize that Boeser was that much more talented than Tavares. Just love the way clueless eastern fans downplay the kid.

 

[Ace of Hades]

At least Matthews isn't the most overrated guy on here anymore. Now it is Pettersson

EP is ranked fine. Matthews and Marner are still the most overrated guys on here. Heck the whole Leafs team is.

 

[I am toxic]

Pettersson is 27th in the league in points per game. Let's pump the breaks. Incredible player, maybe even a top 10 guy in a year or two, but he's a rookie. Is anyone calling Barzal one of the best players in the league? They're producing similar numbers in their rookie seasons.

Pump the brakes.

Don't slam the brakes.

 

[kladorf2005]

Last step is where you stopped trying to be objective. There’s an obvious reason why primary points are valued more than secondary points by everyone who knows what they’re talking about.

I'll take "pot calling the kettle black" for 200, Alex

 

[kladorf2005]

If McDavid was as good as you’re implying his team wouldn’t be where it is, there I said it. He’s the leader of that team and he’s leading it to the basement. I question his character and intangibles and some Oiler fans have started to do the same. Pettersson on the other hand has almost singlehandedly propelled the Canucks to a playoff team when they should’ve been in the basement. He has a higher P1/60 than McDavid, a Better shot, better hockey sense and better in every way except skating.

Let me make sure I have this straight:

51 points in 53 games (Oilers) = Basement
54 points in 54 games (Canucks) = Playoff Team

Got it!

 

[Tofveve]

I think he's at 2.93, not 3.01. But yeah, leading the league. It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I guess I didn't make it very hard for you.

 

[HolyGhost]

This thread again

 

[Kamiccolo]

EP is ranked fine. Matthews and Marner are still the most overrated guys on here. Heck the whole Leafs team is.

EP has accomplished less than both and is rated above both on here lol

 

[Ser Grogu]

We will watch his career with great interest.

 

[Bounces R Way]

 

[Randyne]

McDavid is on pace to 101 primary points. Last players scored more than 100 primary points in a season were Ovechkin in 2007-08 and Lemieux in 1995-96.

 

[aufheben]

Didn’t ask you that. How many 2As does McDavid have this year? How does it compare to the rest of the league?

46th >400:00 5v5 2A/60; 84th >400:00 2A/60

 

[Paper]

I understand the OP made this thread to insult Pettersson by pointing out his low ice-time but the guy is still a rookie.

Sure, he might not have the drive as true top-tier players but he's still got time to improve. His natural talent, even if he doesn't want to work on his cardio, should allow him to have a Kovalev type career.

 

[authentic]

No, but better than anyone on the Toronto roster. That's what matters.

Imagine actually believing this?

 

[authentic]

I understand the OP made this thread to insult Pettersson by pointing out his low ice-time but the guy is still a rookie.

Sure, he might not have the drive as true top-tier players but he's still got time to improve. His natural talent, even if he doesn't want to work on his cardio, should allow him to have a Kovalev type career.

Kovalev had amazing cardio. I think he will be consistently better than Kovalev though.

 

[Gobben]

Is his nickname really "Alien" ? lol

Ånge more or less did not even exist until about the Tunguska event. Who knows what landed there?

<Elias Pettersson> Take me to your Stanley cups.

 

[Ace of Hades]

EP has accomplished less than both and is rated above both on here lol

Not everyone ranks them ahead of those two but he certainly does have the potential to be above them. He has played better than Matthews has while playing with a far worse offensive support.